Old Rocker

there was a setting for Attention Assist but as you wrote it affects something else. I want to take advantage of the safety features, but some don't work well or just get in your way. @stlbenz posted a photo of a Tesla steering wheel that only has one option to hold for each hand. It shouldn't have to come to that.

Rockland

Bought my car yesterday. It rolled back today at a stop light! WTF!

Diesel Benz

I don't understand these complaints. Cars are evolving, why would you otherwise have bought a new one? This is for fuel economy. What is the difference if you need to brake to avoid the car going forward as if you need to be brake to avoid it going backwards? Also so easy as the car has brake hold plus it has hill start assist.

Perhaps you don't care about fuel economy. It is just that these cars would not be available if their fuel economy was not improved.

js_cls

Roll-back is pretty common in hybrid and mild-hybrid equipped vehicles when using auto start stop, especially on heavier models regardless of brand.

Baloo588

Just turn off the auto start stop, it can cause a slight roll back on cars on the hill at stop light.

Rockland

inconsistent touch buttons is being much too nice. They SUCK and really do not work. I also use only either the media or navigation on the center screen. Mostly media. Just want to be able to quickly change songs or radio stations. Just sat in my driveway for 45 minutes trying to practice moving the forward and backward buttons on the left side of the steering wheel. Easier to go forward. The Backward rarely works. More than half of the time the system thought my swipe was going up and down instead of side to side so it took me out of the media screen entirely and into some odometer setting. Bottom line is it just doesn’t work. I will have to take my eyes off the road and use the center touch screen which is dangerous. I turned in my BMW 760 for this. The IDrive system was flawless and was so easy to use. The BMW system just worked. I hate these controls and this touch screen.

js_cls

No offense but this was all something you could have tested out before delivery. If you didn't like touchscreens before you bought the car, then the S-Class was never for you from the get-go.

Rockland

My 760 lease was up and the new BMW isn’t available for a year. I special ordered this car. There is no downside to me driving this car for a year or so. You can’t learn if you like living with a car from a test drive anyway. It takes time. If I don’t grow to love this car I just get rid of it in 15 months. Not a major problem.

Old Rocker

I'm sorry you are experiencing the same issues as me. I think it is one of the best looking cars inside and out available, but those controls and the driving experience is not like other S-Class I have been in or drove. I feel every road imperfection, the seats are "sporty" comfortable rather then "luxury" comfortable, the acceleration when at a stop or when slowing for a red light, then when it turns green you tap the gas is not smooth. Something new is that at least 3 times the passenger side mirror did not go to the proper position needing a manual set. I continue to dislike that I can not turn off Traffic Light View permanently. The door handles continue to annoy. It would be nice if there was a setting to use them manually with the swipe to open or a tap to lock (like the previous versions).

You said you sat in your car trying to learn and get used to the controls. If you were in a dark place like your garage, it seems you can't turn off the head lights. This is an expensive luxury car. I'm not sure how I feel. The quality seems fine, but some of the tech is not necessary and gets in your way. Is it that much cheaper to use those touch controls rather then the previous real buttons on the steering wheel or seat controls? So far most of my gripes are personal preference, not warranty issues, but when I got the car, I asked the salesman to reset the MPG/Trip Odometer and he had to swipe left about 7 times before he was able to get it to reset. And when you press the Enter center button, it does not appear to do anything. It does reset, but stays on the screen making you wonder if you need to try again.

I admit I am not young and excited to learn all of this tech, but much of it just gets in the way or is confusing. Several settings can be disabled for the trip only and revert to on the next time you start the car, but the automatic braking system apparently can be turned on or off (I don't know), but sometimes I come to a light to see if it is going to stop me and I get too close to the car in front not to press the brakes myself. The users manual is several hundred pages and I can't remember it all, but I'm pretty sure the car has technology to (help) keep you from crashing, but I don't know if/when it is engaged.

It's a car, a really nice car, but if some of the features are confusing or make you unsure, they are worthless. For the high price, I expected a better experience.

Rockland

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Streamliner

I have not driven my new car enough to know if some of these issues will grow on me, magically disappear or fester. My hope would be that if enough W223 owners COMPLAIN, to their dealers and to MBUSA, that software upgrades might fix several of these issues. It really is up to US! We here are the MB “enthusiasts,” and we NEED to make our feelings known. Give your dealership an EARFUL!​​​​​​! EVERY time you come into contact with a sales or service person, MAKE SURE TO TELL THEM if you are unhappy with various features. Call MBUSA and politely, but firmly TELL THEM how disappointed you are. If you really feel inspired, write a hard copy letter and FedEx it to Ola Kallenius and read him the riot act. Tell him how many previous MB’s you’ve owned and tell him why this one may be your last. If we only complain here, to each other, that doesn’t help.

I’m wondering: Has anyone in the world, backing out of a tight garage, hooked the extended door handle into the garage door portal? I don’t see why that could not happen and how expensive would that be to repair, especially if it really mangles the door as well?

js_cls

You'd have to have an incredibly tight garage for that, like extremely. Once you drive and/or hit the lock button the handles will retract. On top of that, the handles don't extend much (maybe a small number of inches) so if you hit the handles, you'll likely be damaging the door panel itself on top of that. Even with the handles extended, and mirrors folded, the car's widest point that would hit the garage would still be the folded mirrors most likely.

Streamliner

Hitting the lock button is a good idea, but what if someone doesn’t? And, if backing out at an angle, the rear door handle can hit way before the mirror. Just playing devil’s advocate with yet another reason why the door handles are absolutely ridiculous.

bishop64

True. This retractable door handle, when extended, is probably as protruded as a traditional grip type handle.

Streamliner

Yes BUT, the previous, non-pop out handle would not “hook” anything. These new ones are just waiting to hook SOMETHING.

js_cls

A normal door handle could also get damaged this way as well. For all we know the door handle may have an emergency retract if it detects damage? That being said, I'm not sure anyone is gonna want to test that theory

Either way, if you have a garage that tight, sound like you shouldn't be parking a big boat like an S-Class in it. I've had no issues with the door handles and their functionality so for me I have no qualms with them. I think you're worrying too much about very unlikely situations. Enjoy the car.

SW20S

If you were close enough to hook the door handle you'd obliterate the mirror...

Streamliner

Yes, BUT first you would hook the rear door handle and it is not nearly as visible to the driver as is the mirror. Obviously, such an incident would require some mistakes, but people make them every day, especially when they are in a hurry, maybe screaming kids in the car, their phone rings at the exact wrong instant, etc.

bishop64

Look at this video of the EQE (begins at 19:48). Could this happen for the W223 too?

SW20S

I think thats a reach lol. You can't design a car against all the ways people can run it into things.

Streamliner

My point is that these new handles are a bad design. They have the ability to "hook" things. Crazy, stupid things happen all the time. A woman gets out of the back seat and her purse strap gets hooked in the handle and the car starts to drive away.
I know it's a one in a million possibility, but it wasn't ANY possibility with the old style handles. The new handles are not good, not an "improvement" and should never have been done.

Streamliner

Oh my! Can you even imagine a small child getting their hand stuck in there??? I believe there will be lawsuits over these door handles.

BenjaminKohl

Other brands including Tesla and Land Rover have used door handles like this for years, and I haven't heard any horror stories. Yes, they're not ideal, but I think you're thinking a bit too theoretical. I don't think they're *actually* dangerous.

Streamliner

You're right. Only time will tell.

Bubba1

Anybody know how to activate the "brake hold" function? Thanks in advance!