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Take er easy, pay close attention, you'll be ok. Might want to check the threads here; someone posted a link to an outfit moving OEM wheels for not so much. I recall 35 to 4500 a set for the fancier AMG wheels and a little more than half that for the more mundane stuff.
Currently running 21 amg line, package non runflats, staggered rear size 285-30R21 100y
2 blowouts middle of the night. Passenger side front and rear blown out. Roadside sent an uber and tow truck. 👏 👏 👏 ......... next day mb dropped off loaner to my house 👏
3 weeks later MB CanNot find the rear tires !!! Took matters into my hand. Purchased a tire off ebay. 🙌 sent it to the dealer and they smacked it on and dropped off the car to my house 👏 👏.
THE NEXT DAY MASSIVE BUBBLE APPERAS ON DRIVER SIDE FRONT TIRE.
PLEASE TELL ME WE HAVE SOLUTION, can I beef up my tire. Without risking any performance or Turning ratio 🤔
Currently running 21 amg line, package non runflats, staggered rear size 285-30R21 100y
2 blowouts middle of the night. Passenger side front and rear blown out. Roadside sent an uber and tow truck. 👏 👏 👏 ......... next day mb dropped off loaner to my house 👏
3 weeks later MB CanNot find the rear tires !!! Took matters into my hand. Purchased a tire off ebay. 🙌 sent it to the dealer and they smacked it on and dropped off the car to my house 👏 👏.
THE NEXT DAY MASSIVE BUBBLE APPERAS ON DRIVER SIDE FRONT TIRE.
PLEASE TELL ME WE HAVE SOLUTION, can I beef up my tire. Without risking any performance or Turning ratio 🤔
Solution is just get rid of those pirellis and replace with the Michelins PS4. They are far more robust I have never had a blow out or bubbles with them on any of my cars with low profile tires and wheels. I have driven few thousand on these and no issues.
I am a big fan of Japanese tires. Having visited, and imported from, tire factories in Europe and Asia, their quality, manufacturing, and testing rival anything built in our country. And their pricing should be more than competitive. As for a specific brand, there should be more choices for your 19 “ wheels than my 21s. I’d ask a knowledgeable tire dealer (Discount Tire comes to mind)in your area his thoughts on ride quality of a specific tire, as I’m sure things have changed from my days in the biz. I’m going to replace my 21” Pirellis with Falken or Michelin.
Solution is just get rid of those pirellis and replace with the Michelins PS4. They are far more robust I have never had a blow out or bubbles with them on any of my cars with low profile tires and wheels. I have driven few thousand on these and no issues.
Michelin PS4 look good, but I notice they are summer tires with low warranty, 20k miles (Not that it would stop me) but I need year round, run flats since I am without spare. Thoughts?
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by JSL555
Michelin PS4 look good, but I notice they are summer tires with low warranty, 20k miles (Not that it would stop me) but I need year round, run flats since I am without spare. Thoughts?
My 2020 S560 trunk with a W221, 19” compact spare. Jack & tool kit under the lid. I will do a test to see if this spare will fit my new S580, but I do believe it will. Run-flats or conventional tires, venturing out on longer road trips, out of larger metro areas, a spare is just a common sense necessity, at least to my way of thinking.
Yeah, that would be interesting to know if I could put a spare in. It would certainly impact my willingness to stay with the runflats. I will say, when I had my first tire failure, it was comforting to know I could still drive it to the dealer even as the air was running out. But, the cost is a less than ideal ride quality.
Michelin PS4 look good, but I notice they are summer tires with low warranty, 20k miles (Not that it would stop me) but I need year round, run flats since I am without spare. Thoughts?
They have 6 years/30k miles warranty and 2 years flat replacement from tirerack which is great. I got almost 38k out of a set on my Audi with 20s without issues. If you really need all season then the best bet is to downsize to 20s and get the Pilot Sport 4 all seasons. I have a separate set of 20s with winter Michelin X-ice for this car to use during winter so I am set.
The Michelins are the way to go. I ran many sets on my W222 S-class cars I had. I only had one instance that I had a sidewall bubble, but it was a large pothole I hit. The Michelins also have good tread wear. Most of mine, I got in excess of 35k miles on a set. Not bad for a heavy car like the S Class.
If you're here, reading this, you either have just purchased one of these or are considering it. A depreciating value asset costing from the lower to mid 100s. Throwing away money was probably not how you got into this position. I would however suggest the idea that buying tires at 25k instead of 30, 40, whatever, might not be the end of the world?
Ok, quick update. I got the 19" stock wheels to replace 21". Now running on Hankook 255/45/R19 instead of PZeros. The car feels smoother and softer. Really like the change.
I also bought the w221 spare tire and will try to install it tomorrow on the car to see if it fits. I hope I'm now at the end of my tire issues
If anybody wants my 21" wheels/tires please let me know.
Ok, quick update. I got the 19" stock wheels to replace 21". Now running on Hankook 255/45/R19 instead of PZeros. The car feels smoother and softer. Really like the change.
I also bought the w221 spare tire and will try to install it tomorrow on the car to see if it fits. I hope I'm now at the end of my tire issues
If anybody wants my 21" wheels/tires please let me know.
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The Hankook 25545R19 stock tires are MOE which means Mercedes Original Extended, i.e. run-flats. So if your tires says MOE you won’t need the spare. I already had a flat and it works.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by JSL555
The Hankook 25545R19 stock tires are MOE which means Mercedes Original Extended, i.e. run-flats. So if your tires says MOE you won’t need the spare. I already had a flat and it works.
Unless, of course, you happen to hit a pot hole or other road hazard that shreds the tire, cracks the wheel or otherwise renders the car undrivable. In such instances, the ONLY immediate solution is a spare. If you don't have one, you are going for a ride in the cab of
a tow truck. If your family is in the car and you are far from home, problems increase exponentially.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by dan3141
Ok, quick update. I got the 19" stock wheels to replace 21". Now running on Hankook 255/45/R19 instead of PZeros. The car feels smoother and softer. Really like the change.
I also bought the w221 spare tire and will try to install it tomorrow on the car to see if it fits. I hope I'm now at the end of my tire issues
If anybody wants my 21" wheels/tires please let me know.
D
Did you try the spare on? I'm trying my W221 spare on tomorrow. Hope it fits.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Indyberetta
I'm curious if it will fit.
My 19” compact spare, out of a 2012 W221, fits the rear only, which is OK. If I get a flat in the front, remove a rear, put it in front and use the spare in the rear. A hassle to be sure, but about .00001% of the hassle one can experience without having a spare and being stranded. I would never attempt to change the wheel on my own, unless there was no option for AAA or MB Roadside Assistance and I can’t imagine being anywhere like that. I will probably carry a “TireFit” kit as well, that can be used in the case of a simple puncture, as I have changed to non-run flats, see new thread.
Take er easy, pay close attention, you'll be ok. Might want to check the threads here; someone posted a link to an outfit moving OEM wheels for not so much. I recall 35 to 4500 a set for the fancier AMG wheels and a little more than half that for the more mundane stuff.
Definitely not ok. Had front passenger tire blow out at about 30 miles an hour leaving the parking structure of Caesar’s Palace Las Vegas. Absolutely stupid, horrible ordeal. 50 minutes on hold with Mercedes Roadside Assistance and over an hour for the flatbed. Getting it on the flatbed took good hour too, the driver had to use wood beams under the wheels to make sure the front bumper didn’t bottom out. Took a few tries, went from attempting to drive it straight up to backing it on. About 3 hours in total. I absolutely loathe this car. I will be calling Mercedes Corporate and demanding they buy it back. If they don’t, I will find a way to lemon it and will raise stink on every social media platform and through my national TV contacts. This car is absolute trash. There is no quality to either design or engineering. Half-baked imposter instead of a true flagship vehicle.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by odesskiy
Definitely not ok. Had front passenger tire blow out at about 30 miles an hour leaving the parking structure of Caesar’s Palace Las Vegas. Absolutely stupid, horrible ordeal. 50 minutes on hold with Mercedes Roadside Assistance and over an hour for the flatbed. Getting it on the flatbed took good hour too, the driver had to use wood beams under the wheels to make sure the front bumper didn’t bottom out. Took a few tries, went from attempting to drive it straight up to backing it on. About 3 hours in total. I absolutely loathe this car. I will be calling Mercedes Corporate and demanding they buy it back. If they don’t, I will find a way to lemon it and will raise stink on every social media platform and through my national TV contacts. This car is absolute trash. There is no quality to either design or engineering. Half-baked imposter instead of a true flagship vehicle.
I believe this is where some wiseass says “don’t sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel,” but not being a wiseass, I would never say that.
Definitely not ok. Had front passenger tire blow out at about 30 miles an hour leaving the parking structure of Caesar’s Palace Las Vegas. Absolutely stupid, horrible ordeal. 50 minutes on hold with Mercedes Roadside Assistance and over an hour for the flatbed. Getting it on the flatbed took good hour too, the driver had to use wood beams under the wheels to make sure the front bumper didn’t bottom out. Took a few tries, went from attempting to drive it straight up to backing it on. About 3 hours in total. I absolutely loathe this car. I will be calling Mercedes Corporate and demanding they buy it back. If they don’t, I will find a way to lemon it and will raise stink on every social media platform and through my national TV contacts. This car is absolute trash. There is no quality to either design or engineering. Half-baked imposter instead of a true flagship vehicle.
Go slow/Pay close attention; not easy to do, as you have seen yourself. I am sorry to hear you found yourself on the side of the ride; that's some suckage however it happened. Over on the Panamera forums there were a lot of people with 2, 3, 4, blowouts, almost invariably 21s, and they paid more for their cars. You don't see all these problems though; not in this quantity. As I said in the first place; stay away from the big wheels: They hurt the car in every measurable metric, reduce ride quality, and greatly increase your exposure to blown tires/busted wheels. Go slow/close attention works, but most will space out while driving making it a matter of luck between you and the side of the road. Say no... Who really wants to spend their time worrying about wheels that first started expanding their sphincter the minute they paid extra to get a styling fad? I ordered the 19s...
I know, I've been following your progress, I was more referring to the replacement car.
I've been where you are, bigger wheels than I wanted, on the side of the road, POed. I got nothing for you other than avoid on one the next one. Or go smaller in the aftermarket in the off chance they figure the rest of it out while your waiting for the tire to show up. Not much upside other than knowing what mistake not to make on the next one.
I know, I've been following your progress, I was more referring to the replacement car.
I've been where you are, bigger wheels than I wanted, on the side of the road, POed. I got nothing for you other than avoid on one the next one. Or go smaller in the aftermarket in the off chance they figure the rest of it out while your waiting for the tire to show up. Not much upside other than knowing what mistake not to make on the next one.
I decided to take a step back and take a deep breath before I give myself a coronary. Going to give the list of my issues to the dealer and see how they are dealt with. I have wheel/tire insurance, so the tire shouldn’t cost me anything. Maybe I’ll look into selling the stock wheels and replacing them with 19’s.
It's what I did; you just can't mention the idea to a man in your situation until he's had time to chill. One positive is that it isn't a sports car so you don't have to worry about expensive lightweight forgings; just need decent quality and whatever appearance suits.
I didn't mean to give you a sermon BTW: Fell into the old man telling the big wheels to get off his lawn. I apologize for that.
It's what I did; you just can't mention the idea to a man in your situation until he's had time to chill. One positive is that it isn't a sports car so you don't have to worry about expensive lightweight forgings; just need decent quality and whatever appearance suits.
I didn't mean to give you a sermon BTW: Fell into the old man telling the big wheels to get off his lawn. I apologize for that.
No worries, you didn’t get anywhere close to the *******ness of that W223 guy, so all good 🤣
I am much calmer now than I was last night. After all it’s all just an inconvenience and/or expense. Going to try to set my expectations low for the dealer service in order to not go into another emotional tailspin. 🤪
Perhaps Pirelli does have softer side wall, but I suspect the fact that a 21'' has so little side wall that its fate is doomed when it comes to potholes.
We all know but I still make this side-by-side pic to show a good clear visual comparison. 19'' vs 20'' vs 21''.
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One positive is that it isn't a sports car so you don't have to worry about expensive lightweight forgings; just need decent quality and whatever appearance suits.
