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It's not just us, the Panamera guys blow their 21's as well, occasionally multiple tires in the same instance as here. Taycan, yep, the same. I know a Tesla owner in RL that popped one. Also an Audi owner. It's a recipe for failure: Heavy car, very little sidewall, road hazard. Put them together and viola; blown tire.
You can bet that G90 being discussed in another thread is going to be popping them just like other heavy cars with 21s; there is no magic car that gets away with it. The MB specific issue is that the stock 21" tires are crap making them more susceptible to failure than they would be if they used quality rubber. MB did not make a faulty car that blows tires. If you want to assign blame that's easy enough: Owners of these wheel and tire combos need only look in a mirror.
Baloo my friend, a flat isn't so bad. Check mine out
A pothole in a very remote part of town took out two of my tires last night. Both tires on the right-hand side killed instantly. Called a flatbed to my local dealer, and had my old 19s replaced the next day.
I've only had the 21s for a month, and this was my first journey out of the 'good part of town'.
Oh man sorry to hear this! As long as you are safe. Hope you can get those tires in stock. Its very hard to get now.
I was just ranting at the fact theres no spare or even a jack. I got both of them already for my S class. The spare is coming in few weeks.
In meantime Im downsizing to 20s OEM with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S N-spec 255/40R20 front and rear just like I had on my Audi A8.
As for the 22s on my RS7 I have not had any issues so far but then again it can happen to anyone. Just bad luck we are all having with the 21 on this car. No one has had any flat or blowouts on the 22s on the RS6/RS7 base on the audizine forums.
Also Michelins dont go flat with air escaping out of their tires like Pirellis or Continentals which go flat. That protects the rims and everything. Just this is my work day car and as doctor I cannot risk being late or stranded.
Ive gone wider on the rims before so I was debating 265/35R21 front and 275/35R21 rears which will make the tire thicker. But then again I have my sexy 2021 RS7 so I dont need 21s on this car.
My other ride, 2021 Ford Bronco 1st edition, use for off roading, snowboarding, mountain biking and traveling across state which the S or RS7 will not ever go. Got the BF goodrich K02 tires with the sasquatch package. Those tires absorb everything like sponge.
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Also Michelins dont go flat with air escaping out of their tires like Pirellis or Continentals which go flat. That protects the rims and everything. Just this is my work day car and as doctor I cannot risk being late or stranded.
Ive gone wider on the rims before so I was debating 265/35R21 front and 275/35R21 rears which will make the tire thicker. But then again I have my sexy 2021 RS7 so I dont need 21s on this car.
Sorry let me rephrase that. The sidewall still stays up due to the Michelin polyamide belt and sidewall. Look at the pics. The sidewall is gashed open. As for my tire I had 10 psi in the tire when I pulled into parking lot but the tire was still holding up the rim and the rim didn't even touch the tarmac especially on the inner rim.
Sorry let me rephrase that. The sidewall still stays up due to the Michelin polyamide belt and sidewall. Look at the pics. The sidewall is gashed open. As for my tire I had 10 psi in the tire when I pulled into parking lot but the tire was still holding up the rim and the rim didn't even touch the tarmac especially on the inner rim.
My guess is this is also why modern Michelins almost always ride more firmly than their competitors
Got the non staggered 20s on with the Michelin pilot sport a/s. Drives much better but few of the tires are excessive road force and cannot be balanced so slight vibration on highway. No big deal. Getting replacement Michelins from tirerack.
Got the non staggered 20s on with the Michelin pilot sport a/s. Drives much better but few of the tires are excessive road force and cannot be balanced so slight vibration on highway. No big deal. Getting replacement Michelins from tirerack.
Surprisingly the Luxury/Exclusive Line Rims work well with the AMG-Line styling.
I'm the odd man out here; wouldn't touch the AMG package. I gain nothing as I find the appearance a push, it adds no performance, costs an extra 7k when configured with the same load-out as an exclusive, and I lose the 10 degree steering. Hell no. But yeah, I may be the only one here that sees it that way.
I'm the odd man out here; wouldn't touch the AMG package. I gain nothing as I find the appearance a push, it adds no performance, costs an extra 7k when configured with the same load-out as an exclusive, and I lose the 10 degree steering. Hell no. But yeah, I may be the only one here that sees it that way.
You and Streamliner, although I doubt you share the same opinions for panoramic roofs
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by crabman
I'm the odd man out here; wouldn't touch the AMG package. I gain nothing as I find the appearance a push, it adds no performance, costs an extra 7k when configured with the same load-out as an exclusive, and I lose the 10 degree steering. Hell no. But yeah, I may be the only one here that sees it that way.
WRONG! I have been screaming about the idiocy of the AMG “Package” forever now. Not one AMG body panel costs more to produce than the non-AMG panels. Unless forged, not one AMG wheel costs more to produce than a non-AMG wheel. It’s a shell game! If you cough up the huge price increase to go AMG Line, that means you MUST, somehow, be “Sporty.” All these old farts certainly want to be thought of as “sporty,” so they check the box and if they are REALLY sporty, they go for 21’s. OMG! Honestly, whomever came up with the idea to make these giant saloons “sporty,” was a genius. MB is raking it in!
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by js_cls
You and Streamliner, although I doubt you share the same opinions for panoramic roofs
Probably one of “THE” most attractive features of the New Flying Spur, is that you can order a V8 model with an ALL steel roof, sans any idiotic black glass. Be still my heart!
I'm the odd man out here; wouldn't touch the AMG package. I gain nothing as I find the appearance a push, it adds no performance, costs an extra 7k when configured with the same load-out as an exclusive, and I lose the 10 degree steering. Hell no. But yeah, I may be the only one here that sees it that way.
Here as well.
I suppose, one might want the AMG to go with the 21'' wheel?
As for the panoramic roof, I can do without too.
To be fair the 7k isn't totally wasted, you get aluminum pedals and an AMG logo on the floor mats. If they were smart, they would come up with a Louis Vuitton variant: Plaster their logos all over and women will pay a fortune for it. Or at least I know one woman that would... *Facepalm*I
WRONG! I have been screaming about the idiocy of the AMG “Package” forever now. Not one AMG body panel costs more to produce than the non-AMG panels. Unless forged, not one AMG wheel costs more to produce than a non-AMG wheel. It’s a shell game! If you cough up the huge price increase to go AMG Line, that means you MUST, somehow, be “Sporty.” All these old farts certainly want to be thought of as “sporty,” so they check the box and if they are REALLY sporty, they go for 21’s. OMG! Honestly, whomever came up with the idea to make these giant saloons “sporty,” was a genius. MB is raking it in!
Going to miss you sir; keep fighting the good fight!
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by crabman
To be fair the 7k isn't totally wasted, you get aluminum pedals and an AMG logo on the floor mats. If they were smart, they would come up with a Louis Vuitton variant: Plaster their logos all over and women will pay a fortune for it. Or at least I know one woman that would... *Facepalm*I
Yeah, I still lament missing out on a Bill Blass edition Lincoln Continental.
To be fair the 7k isn't totally wasted, you get aluminum pedals and an AMG logo on the floor mats. If they were smart, they would come up with a Louis Vuitton variant: Plaster their logos all over and women will pay a fortune for it. Or at least I know one woman that would... *Facepalm*I
Well actually, people have already done this🤣. See this E53 below:
Shocking you found Michelins with high road force! That used to never happen.
Originally Posted by crabman
I'm the odd man out here; wouldn't touch the AMG package. I gain nothing as I find the appearance a push, it adds no performance, costs an extra 7k when configured with the same load-out as an exclusive, and I lose the 10 degree steering. Hell no. But yeah, I may be the only one here that sees it that way.
I flat wouldn't buy an S Class without the AMG package, I just think for both the W222 and the W223 (more the 222, but the 223 also) they dramatically change the style of the car and I find them round and bulbous looking without the package. As for cost, if everything on this car were priced according to what it costs to produce, the car would be $80K lol. Complaining about the cost is silly when people spend $3,500 for silver lines painted onto wood trim and $3,500 for $700 worth of leather stitched a few extra places, $6,000 for an upgraded audio system...
I get something with that leather, it appears to substantially increase the quality level. That is not subjective either, it's something almost anyone would say. The stock stereo is good but the 4D is hugely mo better. Not worth it's price but I get something. I didn't pay for the lines, Mrs Crab does not like fake whenever it can be avoided and it gives nothing.
Every box I checked gave me something. AMG line gives me nothing and takes the 10 degree steering. Heeeelllll no! That AMG logo on the formats? An insult unless there is a minimum of 100 extra hp going along with it. That's something.
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Shouln't be an issue.
