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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 06:04 PM
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Pre-Entry heat/cool

Just got the 580......upon entering after un-lock the residual heat is running and it is 90m degrees in my
garage. Can't find any where to either disable the heating or enable cooling.
User manual says there should be a selector switch on the bottom of screen but my vehicle does not have it
and I can't find any setting in climate menu to deal with it.
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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stationkeeper
Just got the 580......upon entering after un-lock the residual heat is running and it is 90m degrees in my
garage. Can't find any where to either disable the heating or enable cooling.
User manual says there should be a selector switch on the bottom of screen but my vehicle does not have it
and I can't find any setting in climate menu to deal with it.
On the older models, it should be the "Rest" button under the A/C button (it is a dual function button). For the W223, it might be under the climate menu settings but since you said you didn't find it, I am not sure. I mentioned it just in case you missed it.
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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 08:36 PM
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Are you sure you do not have this icon in the Climate Control bar of the Central Display?


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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stationkeeper
Just got the 580......upon entering after un-lock the residual heat is running and it is 90m degrees in my
garage. Can't find any where to either disable the heating or enable cooling.
User manual says there should be a selector switch on the bottom of screen but my vehicle does not have it
and I can't find any setting in climate menu to deal with it.
Move to a more desirable climate....
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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 11:17 PM
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I took delivery of my 22 S580 on May 31 and I don’t have the icon to activate/deactivate the preheat/cool either.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 08:25 AM
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Not sure im understanding, I thought if you wanted to use it you had to press residual heat? Meaning if your driving your car, and then stop somewhere and want the heat/AC to stay on you press the residual heat button. Nothing should be running if you just unlock your vehicle and get in from what I've seen. Are you saying you press the unlock button on the remote, and when you get in the vehicle the heat/ac is running?
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bishop64
Are you sure you do not have this icon in the Climate Control bar of the Central Display?
Bishop64, where did that manual quote come from? Looks more like the European version, different from the one I find from the MBUSA website? In Europe we are not offered any pdf-copy, just an on-line version of the manual that does not follow the paper copy at all.

In any case I'm a bit confused about the pre-entry climate control. I thought mild hybrid (EQ-Boost) cars should have that too, not only hybrids. Our user manual states the same as yours anyway. Are US cars supposed to be remote started for AC (or heating in the winter) even if they were capable of cooling the car without the engine running?

If I remember right, all W223 gasoline engines were not EQ-boost models at the start of production but now they seem to be. Only diesel engines are not EQ-boost which is odd as even the W206 C class has EQ boost diesels. Residual heating should be for cars that do not have the high voltage battery (48 V or hybrid battery) but that would only serve heating the cabin or cooling without AC.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Bishop64, where did that manual quote come from? Looks more like the European version, different from the one I find from the MBUSA website? In Europe we are not offered any pdf-copy, just an on-line version of the manual that does not follow the paper copy at all.

In any case I'm a bit confused about the pre-entry climate control. I thought mild hybrid (EQ-Boost) cars should have that too, not only hybrids. Our user manual states the same as yours anyway. Are US cars supposed to be remote started for AC (or heating in the winter) even if they were capable of cooling the car without the engine running?

If I remember right, all W223 gasoline engines were not EQ-boost models at the start of production but now they seem to be. Only diesel engines are not EQ-boost which is odd as even the W206 C class has EQ boost diesels. Residual heating should be for cars that do not have the high voltage battery (48 V or hybrid battery) but that would only serve heating the cabin or cooling without AC.
i have the S580 with EQBoost, when I start the car from my phone the actual engine stars and now being that its the summer it cools down the vehicle. This lasts for 10 minutes at which time it shuts off. I think the OP is saying that when he unlocks his car, and gets in that the cooling/heating function is already running which I dont get. I mean I understand if hes remote starting it, but not sure how it would be running on its own. Or maybe I just misunderstood what he said
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Bishop64, where did that manual quote come from? Looks more like the European version, different from the one I find from the MBUSA website? In Europe we are not offered any pdf-copy, just an on-line version of the manual that does not follow the paper copy at all...
That is from MB UK.
Here is the link for the pdf manual (for 2021)
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/pass...1640173907.pdf
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks, 3 moving vans are on the way.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 12:10 PM
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It starts up when I unlock and get in.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DoctorDash
i have the S580 with EQBoost, when I start the car from my phone the actual engine stars and now being that its the summer it cools down the vehicle. This lasts for 10 minutes at which time it shuts off. I think the OP is saying that when he unlocks his car, and gets in that the cooling/heating function is already running which I dont get. I mean I understand if hes remote starting it, but not sure how it would be running on its own. Or maybe I just misunderstood what he said
I'm not sure about the exact scenario the OP had. Neither sure if the car was from the US.

In Europe we do not have the remote start option (environmental restrictions). EVs and PHEVs however have the pre-entry climate control (see the manual page bishop64 posted). Perhaps EQ Boost cars do not have it in Europe either (anyone able to check and confirm?). I find it odd, specifically cooling does not need that much power and I thought the HVAC compressor was electric on the EQ boost too.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 12:13 PM
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I have it but it doesn't seem to affect my problem. When I unlock and get in
is when it starts up. It says "heat" and has a red LED illuminated underneath it.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stationkeeper
I have it but it doesn't seem to affect my problem. When I unlock and get in
is when it starts up. It says "heat" and has a red LED illuminated underneath it.
A photo might clarify what is happening. Even if it says "heat", the car might be cooling or at least blowing as cool air as the ambient temperature allows (without AC active)?
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Here it is.....thanks for the help BTW.

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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 04:37 PM
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 06:22 PM
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Try voice dialogue.



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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 07:51 PM
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I will, sounds simple enough.
“Hey Mercedes, turn off pre-entry residual heat”.
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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 01:19 AM
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I feel something odd is going on with the car. The manual does not describe a scenario where REST would get automatically activated when entering the car. The manual is a bit vague though, it does not describe how to turn REST off, just says it turns off itself after a while. I'm sure REST can be switched off (but cannot test it, I have pre-entry climate control instead of rest). I'd assume pressing the "on/off" button (as in the figure above) could do it or entering the climate menu and turning REST off from there.

Anyway if Residual Heat is activated, it does not mean it is heating the car. The same text appears on the centre display even if REST was ventilating the car (HVAC fan on but heating off). Perhaps difficult to figure out if the garage is so hot, no cool air coming from outside.

REST can also be activated from the rear HVAC panel. Should go and check if it is a button or a touch panel. Perhaps the button remains pressed? Something leaning to the panel if it is a touch sensitive virtual button? Workshop Information System might tell if there is an "undocumented" feature where the HVAC fan activates automatically at extreme temperatures, I'd say unlikely.

Anyone with a similar car could test the user interface. Stop the car and switch REST on (this is the intended use case, someone remains in the car when it was parked for a while). Is it possible to switch REST off immediately from the centre screen menus?


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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 02:00 PM
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Solve how?

Originally Posted by stationkeeper
Just got the 580......upon entering after un-lock the residual heat is running and it is 90m degrees in my
garage. Can't find any where to either disable the heating or enable cooling.
User manual says there should be a selector switch on the bottom of screen but my vehicle does not have it
and I can't find any setting in climate menu to deal with it.
how can you solve it?
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how can you solve it?
You're aware you've dredged up a 2.5 year-old thread?
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