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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 03:10 PM
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Got contacted by a service advisor from the dealership where the car was dropped off as soon as the dealership opened this morning. The ETA on new tire is next Monday, 07/18, which is actually much better than what I was expecting based on previous reports from the forum members. Asked him to check out the rear tire for any bubbles, since it went over the same pothole. Also gave him my small laundry list of issues I've been experiencing. They will flash the latest software updates to see if they resolve the "glitches" with ECM and malfunctioning driver assistance programs as well as rough transmission shifts and auto engine shut-off restarts.

He did say that this is far from the first Pirelli blowout that he's seeing, said I was smart for getting the rim/tire hazard insurance and said Mercedes isn't doing or planning to do anything about these POS Pirellis. My appointment was originally booked for service on Thursday with a loaner reservation but he's trying to find me one sooner.

Also talked to the guy that sold me the car (dealer in California). He actually drives an identical S580 (but MY'21) and ordered mine to match his spec for the dealer inventory. He was the one that insisted I get rim/tire insurance, so I thanked him for it. He just told me that he went through 9 tires in 3 months until he started asking his dealership to replace them with Michelins and eventually got all 4 replaced. Hasn't had any blowouts since then. So basically, he confirmed what we all already know. Michelins = great, Pirellis = suck. His '21 was also experiencing a lot of software malfunctions that eventually went away with software updates.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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Which, the AS4, PS4, something else?
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 04:18 PM
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Which, the AS4, PS4, something else?
I didn't ask.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by odesskiy
I didn't ask.
I got the PS4 and they are smoother, quieter and way more robust. No issues in 6 months 90 miles total a day five days a week in Michigan( average roads).
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 05:01 PM
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I got the PS4 and they are smoother, quieter and way more robust. No issues in 6 months 90 miles total a day five days a week in Michigan( average roads).
I would probably bite the bullet and spend the $2K. Discount Tire has the rears, but the fronts are backordered without an ETA.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 05:12 PM
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You DO seem to be having a really bad run with your car damn! I was going to suggest Discount Tire because they are simply the best tire company I have ever been to.....mine is anyway GL to you Sir. I hope you try and get MB to buy your car back.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 05:16 PM
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You DO seem to be having a really bad run with your car damn! I was going to suggest Discount Tire because they are simply the best tire company I have ever been to.....mine is anyway GL to you Sir. I hope you try and get MB to buy your car back.
I am going to see how the car behaves after I get it back from the dealer. Seems in many cases issues were resolved with software updates. Maybe I can turn this hate relationship into a love/hate relationship
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by odesskiy
I am going to see how the car behaves after I get it back from the dealer. Seems in many cases issues were resolved with software updates. Maybe I can turn this hate relationship into a love/hate relationship
Always a good idea, would be a big loss to sell at this point. I didn't want to suggest keeping it, but perhaps you're just venting! Pirelli tires are not good tires, maybe for HP cars they are I have always stuck with Michelin's myself.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by odesskiy
I am going to see how the car behaves after I get it back from the dealer. Seems in many cases issues were resolved with software updates. Maybe I can turn this hate relationship into a love/hate relationship
I might be able to offer a bit of comfort in this frustration. When I got mine (march delivery of '22 model) the electronics were super buggy. I was a little anxious about it to the points I started logging pictures to amass support documentation for what was moving toward a sit down meeting with the sales manager and the service director. But then I noticed a software update was available, ran that, and I haven't had a single issue since. Prior to update I had HUD failure, ID scan failure, weird seat position issues, and some others I don't recall. Now none. Hope this helps!
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 06:41 PM
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I might be able to offer a bit of comfort in this frustration. When I got mine (march delivery of '22 model) the electronics were super buggy. I was a little anxious about it to the points I started logging pictures to amass support documentation for what was moving toward a sit down meeting with the sales manager and the service director. But then I noticed a software update was available, ran that, and I haven't had a single issue since. Prior to update I had HUD failure, ID scan failure, weird seat position issues, and some others I don't recall. Now none. Hope this helps!
Actually, it is pretty comforting. I’m going to hope software updates will make the car less buggy and give it a second chance to make the first impression. Probably better than taking a $20-30k bath 🤣
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 07:01 PM
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So it seems like Pirelli has had an unacceptable failure rate on S580’s with 21” wheels. (I’ve had 3) Is there any way,or anybody, that can be contacted at Mercedes Corporate to let them know that Pirelli is not an acceptable tire for this car. Or at least find out if they are aware of and acknowledge the problem. I don’t think they hear about these through their dealer network. I’m not expecting reimbursement for the $1500 I’ve paid to replace my three, but MBZ needs to be aware of that they are equipping their luxury brand with a substandard product. Heck, if I knew who to write, or call, I’ll do it myself.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 07:09 PM
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So it seems like Pirelli has had an unacceptable failure rate on S580’s with 21” wheels. (I’ve had 3) Is there any way,or anybody, that can be contacted at Mercedes Corporate to let them know that Pirelli is not an acceptable tire for this car. Or at least find out if they are aware of and acknowledge the problem. I don’t think they hear about these through their dealer network. I’m not expecting reimbursement for the $1500 I’ve paid to replace my three, but MBZ needs to be aware of that they are equipping their luxury brand with a substandard product. Heck, if I knew who to write, or call, I’ll do it myself.
I can get contact info for a lady in corporate that my friend dealt with to get reimbursed for his S580 spending months at the dealer. I think we need to compile a list of owners that experienced blowouts with VIN numbers, owner names, dates of occurrences, possibly copies of dealer receipts. As a group we will have more pull and present more of a bad publicity threat. I think we should ask for a) reimbursement for money spent, b) reimbursement for replacing substandard tires with Michelins for those that paid out of pocket c) an option for those that want (I do) reimbursement for the 21” wheel option ($1900) and replacement with base 19” wheels or possibly 20” wheels with reimbursement of the difference.

If there is appetite for that, we can post a thread and start compiling a list via private messages.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 07:22 PM
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I got the information for an “executive referral manager” in customer advocacy. Let’s get this going, guys.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 07:24 PM
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Good idea…I’m sure in doing what you described. I would think there are others that have had the same problems with Pirellis who feel the same. I’ve read their posts in this Forum. Hopefully they’ll respond and a list can be compiled as you described.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 07:32 PM
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On another thread there was the discussion about what kind of factual information you can glean from a forum; so much is anecdotal information. One thing I do believe in is that when you see the same results on one forum after another there is probably something to it. I said elsewhere you don't really see anyone complaining about their Michelin tires. On the other hand you often read threads where someone is talking about how glad they were when switching to them, or how they fixed a problem like too many blowouts with them. Where I came from (Panamera), depending on trim, you were going to end up with PS4s, a Pirelli, or a Goodyear tire. The guys with the PS4s, no blown tires, the other two, blown tires. There is a thread over there where one guy is complaining about 5 blown tires... That would be Pirelli. They were also 21's. You just keep seeing it.

My order just turned yellow which I'm told means it will lock soon. I'm already thinking about the AS4s. Possibly even the PS4; little noisy maybe 🤔

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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 07:50 PM
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Good idea…I’m sure in doing what you described. I would think there are others that have had the same problems with Pirellis who feel the same. I’ve read their posts in this Forum. Hopefully they’ll respond and a list can be compiled as you described.
I created a new thread and provided my email address. Hopefully people will respond.
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I created a new thread and provided my email address. Hopefully people will respond.
LINK TO THAT THREAD PLEASE, I HAVE 5 TIRE BURST IN 8 MONTHS - 2022 S580 - ALL PIRELLIS 20 INCHES RUN FLATS, NEED HELP
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Between the blowouts and various software glitches, he had become disenchanted with the car and was talking about selling. It's been quite a while since he's been here and may have moved on.
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LINK TO THAT THREAD PLEASE, I HAVE 5 TIRE BURST IN 8 MONTHS - 2022 S580 - ALL PIRELLIS 20 INCHES RUN FLATS, NEED HELP
Stop buying Pirelli.
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Old Apr 30, 2023 | 09:42 PM
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LINK TO THAT THREAD PLEASE, I HAVE 5 TIRE BURST IN 8 MONTHS - 2022 S580 - ALL PIRELLIS 20 INCHES RUN FLATS, NEED HELP
You mean this? https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...-pirellis.html
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