S680 length worries me
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S680 length worries me
Hello,
I discovered with immense pleasure that there is now a V12 that is also 4 wheel drive, 4WD was indeed limited to the V8 engine for the W222.
However, for this you have to take the Maybach version (S680) which is about 20 cm longer than the S550 L version W222 that I currently have…. and that is really not very handy. On the other hand, it has the 4 wheel steering which is supposed to reduce its turning radius by 2 meters…
So, at the end of the day, is this increased length really a problem?
Do some of you owning of having tested the S680 can comment?
Thanks!
I discovered with immense pleasure that there is now a V12 that is also 4 wheel drive, 4WD was indeed limited to the V8 engine for the W222.
However, for this you have to take the Maybach version (S680) which is about 20 cm longer than the S550 L version W222 that I currently have…. and that is really not very handy. On the other hand, it has the 4 wheel steering which is supposed to reduce its turning radius by 2 meters…
So, at the end of the day, is this increased length really a problem?
Do some of you owning of having tested the S680 can comment?
Thanks!
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yes. You should be worried about it. I own s580 maybach and the vehicle is impossible to turn. And if you don’t purchase the 360 camera , it would be impossible to park. The country im currently in has really bad roads so it’s also impossible for me to make an u turn or stuff like that.
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yes. You should be worried about it. I own s580 maybach and the vehicle is impossible to turn. And if you don’t purchase the 360 camera , it would be impossible to park. The country im currently in has really bad roads so it’s also impossible for me to make an u turn or stuff like that.
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
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Thanks, I don’t which exact version you have but the turning circles I found are: 4Matic S580 12.8m and the S680 11.5m…. so according to those numbers, the S680 would be easier to maneuver than yours?
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
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Thanks, I don’t which exact version you have but the turning circles I found are: 4Matic S580 12.8m and the S680 11.5m…. so according to those numbers, the S680 would be easier to maneuver than yours?
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
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These figures are for a Maybach from one wiki site (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...Class_(W223)):
Available engines are a 4.0-litre biturbo V8 for the S 580 4MATIC and a 6.0-litre biturbo V12 for the S 680 4MATIC. Both are fitted with standard 4MATIC all-wheel-drive system. The rear-wheel-steering system for reducing the turning radius is optional extra cost. The turning angle can be set at 4.5° or 10°, reducing the turning radius from 13.1 metres (43 ft) to 12.2 metres (40 ft) and 11.2 metres (37 ft) respectively.
Seems difficult to find matching figures.
Available engines are a 4.0-litre biturbo V8 for the S 580 4MATIC and a 6.0-litre biturbo V12 for the S 680 4MATIC. Both are fitted with standard 4MATIC all-wheel-drive system. The rear-wheel-steering system for reducing the turning radius is optional extra cost. The turning angle can be set at 4.5° or 10°, reducing the turning radius from 13.1 metres (43 ft) to 12.2 metres (40 ft) and 11.2 metres (37 ft) respectively.
Seems difficult to find matching figures.
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S580 MAYBACH Z223
Thanks, I don’t which exact version you have but the turning circles I found are: 4Matic S580 12.8m and the S680 11.5m…. so according to those numbers, the S680 would be easier to maneuver than yours?
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
I may be wrong since both seem to have 4 wheel steering and the S680 is much longer than the S580…
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Turn radius depends on the rim size equally for the W/V223 as the Z223 in the sense that 10 degree steering is not available for the wider tyres.
Isn't the 580 Maybach length/wheel base the same as for the 680 Maybach? Anyway, the naming is confusing, people talk about the S580 where I understand they are referring to the W/V223?
Isn't the 580 Maybach length/wheel base the same as for the 680 Maybach? Anyway, the naming is confusing, people talk about the S580 where I understand they are referring to the W/V223?
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S580 MAYBACH Z223
Turn radius depends on the rim size equally for the W/V223 as the Z223 in the sense that 10 degree steering is not available for the wider tyres.
Isn't the 580 Maybach length/wheel base the same as for the 680 Maybach? Anyway, the naming is confusing, people talk about the S580 where I understand they are referring to the WV/223?
Isn't the 580 Maybach length/wheel base the same as for the 680 Maybach? Anyway, the naming is confusing, people talk about the S580 where I understand they are referring to the WV/223?
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