Ceramic options for exclusive Nappa in W223 S class
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Ceramic options for exclusive Nappa in W223 S class
I’m expecting my S class in the next week or so. It will be my daily driver and I’m a detail fanatic. I already have a plan for the exterior but trying to determine options for the interior. (I have messy kids).
For years I have tried different leather products and ultimately settled on Swissvax (forte when needed, leather milk for regular use very 3-4 months). That’s worked well for probabaly 8 years now.
This time I’m considering ceramic products but have no interior leather experience with them (for Silver/Black exclusive Nappa leather). Many leather products sit on the surface and don’t penetrate as advertised since most automotive leather is coated. I just don’t know about mercedes exclusive leather.
I have zeroed in on GTeqniq Leather L1, Gyeon Leather Shield, and Gyeon leather coat. (CQuartz seems to be too much of a pain to put on).
Does anyone have any practical experience with the three items mentioned above? Also does anyone know definitely if Exclusive Nappa is an Analine or Semi-Analine…or is it coated natural leather?
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For years I have tried different leather products and ultimately settled on Swissvax (forte when needed, leather milk for regular use very 3-4 months). That’s worked well for probabaly 8 years now.
This time I’m considering ceramic products but have no interior leather experience with them (for Silver/Black exclusive Nappa leather). Many leather products sit on the surface and don’t penetrate as advertised since most automotive leather is coated. I just don’t know about mercedes exclusive leather.
I have zeroed in on GTeqniq Leather L1, Gyeon Leather Shield, and Gyeon leather coat. (CQuartz seems to be too much of a pain to put on).
Does anyone have any practical experience with the three items mentioned above? Also does anyone know definitely if Exclusive Nappa is an Analine or Semi-Analine…or is it coated natural leather?
thank you
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Semi-aniline coated leather. Almost all automotive leather is coated, and you want it that way.
I have been completely unimpressed by ceramic products for leather, I personally would (and do) use a product like Colourlock or the Swissvax products you used before.
I have been completely unimpressed by ceramic products for leather, I personally would (and do) use a product like Colourlock or the Swissvax products you used before.
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Great! I was suspecting that to be the case. I have used Swissvax leather glaze on a 911 in the past….biggest thing I noticed was dye transfer from jeans was easy to wife off and clean without solvents. The car was not used as a daily driver. This effect did not last very long. I was curious to see if ceramic lasts longer.
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My Pacifica has almost white napa leather seats, and I did ceramic on the leather when we bought it and I found it gave it no stain resistance or dye transfer resistance at all...
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Larry Kossilla is the man!! I’ve been an Ammo fan for many years and used most of the products he has had. I talked to him in person over 8 years ago. He is truly one of the masters. Above all his wash techniques are excellent.
I haven’t used his leather product, Swissvax has been amazing (after trying Lexol, Leatherique). Unfortunately I also tried the Griots garage stuff on a BMW Dakota leather interior….permanently ruined the car. Smelled like formaldehyde and never subsided and ultimately had to sell it. I never bought anything Griot again. I swear by Swissvax. It’s just that good. For exterior Ammo has been amazing…particularly the tire Mud product. There’s nothing like it out there.
Looks like I’ll be passing on ceramic interior. I appreciate everyone’s candid advice.
I haven’t used his leather product, Swissvax has been amazing (after trying Lexol, Leatherique). Unfortunately I also tried the Griots garage stuff on a BMW Dakota leather interior….permanently ruined the car. Smelled like formaldehyde and never subsided and ultimately had to sell it. I never bought anything Griot again. I swear by Swissvax. It’s just that good. For exterior Ammo has been amazing…particularly the tire Mud product. There’s nothing like it out there.
Looks like I’ll be passing on ceramic interior. I appreciate everyone’s candid advice.
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I use Aerospace 303 leather to clean and treat my leather seats. I found that regularly cleaning your seats and ensuring there’s no dirt and debris is the best way to prevent cracks and creases that usually comes with aging.
I found that some of the more high-end shoe or leather jacket products work really for aged leather with creases. There’s a lot of stuff out there, like Otter Wax Leather salve. I would first test a small inconspicuous area before slathering shoe care products all over your expensive seats. Sometimes these products can darken the leather, so test it first (although it usually lightens after it dries). Saddle soap works well at cleaning tough leather stains.
I found that some of the more high-end shoe or leather jacket products work really for aged leather with creases. There’s a lot of stuff out there, like Otter Wax Leather salve. I would first test a small inconspicuous area before slathering shoe care products all over your expensive seats. Sometimes these products can darken the leather, so test it first (although it usually lightens after it dries). Saddle soap works well at cleaning tough leather stains.
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Larry Kossilla is the man!! I’ve been an Ammo fan for many years and used most of the products he has had. I talked to him in person over 8 years ago. He is truly one of the masters. Above all his wash techniques are excellent.
I haven’t used his leather product, Swissvax has been amazing (after trying Lexol, Leatherique). Unfortunately I also tried the Griots garage stuff on a BMW Dakota leather interior….permanently ruined the car. Smelled like formaldehyde and never subsided and ultimately had to sell it. I never bought anything Griot again. I swear by Swissvax. It’s just that good. For exterior Ammo has been amazing…particularly the tire Mud product. There’s nothing like it out there.
Looks like I’ll be passing on ceramic interior. I appreciate everyone’s candid advice.
I haven’t used his leather product, Swissvax has been amazing (after trying Lexol, Leatherique). Unfortunately I also tried the Griots garage stuff on a BMW Dakota leather interior….permanently ruined the car. Smelled like formaldehyde and never subsided and ultimately had to sell it. I never bought anything Griot again. I swear by Swissvax. It’s just that good. For exterior Ammo has been amazing…particularly the tire Mud product. There’s nothing like it out there.
Looks like I’ll be passing on ceramic interior. I appreciate everyone’s candid advice.
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Does that coating last forever? I had Nappa leather in my Audi and after a few years of use, the conditioner salve really did seem to soak in and improve the look.
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If the coating wore away, the leather would be ruined. Conditioners will soak in and improve the look of the leather through the coating and into the coating itself, but you don't want to use products designed for uncoated leather on coated leather.
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