I think it works on this car, good contrast with the chrome.

 

And, as I understand, BMW does not offer a silver when I was spec'ing out a '23 7. Strange.

 

BMW has dropped silver from a lot of their lineup in recent years.

 

Yeah, no clue why!

 

Is there an updated order guide for the GLS Order guide with pricing?

 

S or GLS?

 

GLS please

 

You should post that request in the GLS forum...

 

New order guides posted. S500 now available. Still no S63.

 

Interesting, the S500 is going up to 442 hp.

 

Shame that they now make you have to get the 7k EABC, to get the HUD…….smh. One has nothing to do with the other……

 

The e-abc requires 3D tech as a prerequisite but the 3D tech can be had without e-abc. The MB build your own website is wrong.

 

Thanks for posting the latest DOG updates (10/3)! Always appreciated.

 

And is only 0.1s slower 0-60mph vs the 580. I wonder if the MPG will be affected. Also noticed the curb weight is only about 100 lbs lighter than the 580, I thought there was a bigger delta there on the 6 vs 8 cylinder cars. For some reason the S500 has a slightly more spacious trunk too.

 

Starting to see YouTube reviews for the S 63 E Performance finally pop up.

Maybe we'll see an updated DOG with its details soon. Looking forward to getting an order in, finally.

 

What's interesting is that S63 should run only for 1 year (2024MY) before the LCI changeover including the MBUX 3 with Hyperscreen for 2025MY.
I am thinking if one should wait ... or not.

 

Indeed. I'm debating the same.

My only concern is if the TT V8 goes away with MY25.

 

I'd be shocked if they had designed the brand new engine only for 1 year

 

But it's not really brand new, is it? It's just the M177 with a hybrid powertrain slapped on it. The hybrid powertrain might be "new" but the M177 is not.

 

Right I mischaracterized it, it's a modified V8 to include components for seamless electrical integration, it still took lots of design hours to do that. Also, they are not going to go all electric and no other arrangement would give them as much power, so I think we should be safe for a few years.

 

Fearless prediction: The V8 does not go away any time soon.

If you're any company that isn't Tesla the run-up to EVs hasn't been pretty. The EU will miss their deadline, the US will also miss the imposed deadlines in various states and municipalities... Except by more.

If I were a betting man I'd be somebody else but I'm not losing sleep over eating my hat on this one. Most manufacturers have walked back their EV talk and these are the people who will decide when we move to EVs. The push the was not for climate; it was too push tin. The tin isn't moving fast enough to maintain those all important profits which only leads one place. Call me jaded but that's the way I see the future when I look in my crystal ball.

 

You all talk about the V8 as if MB isn't capable of doing something utterly insane and downsizing the ICE in the S63.

Look at what's expected in the E63 -- a 6 cyl.

Look at what happened to the C63. Breaks my heart.

 

You want insane, go start up a four cylinder SL and experience the puttering/sputtering while idling. Hell, a lawnmower or 2 cylinder Harley is smoother than that.

 

And then, of course, there is Ferrari:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

 

Yup. Breaks my heart.