Originally Posted by amir1

I We want a high-end car that is very comfortable, quiet, drives fantastically, the materials are top notch, the functionality is logical and fully sorted out, and not some electronic gizmo. So I bought my S560 out of my lease (And happy I did) and am awaiting on the S580 refresh. Hopefully it will be better sorted out and maybe - just maybe - have a few old fashion buttons brought back.

Originally Posted by Frenetic

Whoa, I would be livid as well. I would just hire an attorney and stick them with legal bills if they did that to me part way through the process.

Thanks for update. Please keep us posted.

Originally Posted by Streamliner

After not being able to get a reply to my multiple emails, I phoned Sedgwick and asked them to reconfirm that my repurchase was moving along. They said that they had not received my approval of their offer, so they had discontinued the process. I just about hit the roof! I walked them through the emails I sent and they said “Oh, yes, I see that you did approve it.” As it turns out, since they messed up, the process had to start all over again, with another “2 to 4 week” wait time. Anyway, I expect that they will take the car back within the next two weeks and I will post details at that time.

My gut feeling is that MBUSA is swamped with a tsunami of repurchases and that they are falling all over themselves trying to deal with it. As I mentioned previously, some dealer service advisors will tell you, OFF THE RECORD, that they are facing historic levels of issues with 2021 & newer vehicles. I had one SA say that pre 2021 MB’s “across the line” were the last good ones.

Originally Posted by S_W222

I don't think that there are that many W223 for re-purchasing issues, but there is a ton of EQS vehicles for re-purchase. If you look around, and I did it out of curiosity, the amount of EQS cars with lemon title on that market is more than the used or new ones! I could not believe how many lemon EQS cars, and some of those with a 140K MSRP and 5K miles, are listed for 80K!!! crazy. Despite the good range, the EQS seems to be a big big big issue for Mbenz nowadays. I don't think W223 is the main reason, though there are a a few lemon W223 cars but not as near as EQS.

Originally Posted by crabman

It would be interesting to put on number on that: Buybacks on luxury EVs. Just looking at the forums I get the impression there are fewer complaints in Taycan land but forums can be misleading.

Originally Posted by S_W222

I don't think that there are that many W223 for re-purchasing issues, but there is a ton of EQS vehicles for re-purchase. If you look around, and I did it out of curiosity, the amount of EQS cars with lemon title on that market is more than the used or new ones! I could not believe how many lemon EQS cars, and some of those with a 140K MSRP and 5K miles, are listed for 80K!!! crazy. Despite the good range, the EQS seems to be a big big big issue for Mbenz nowadays. I don't think W223 is the main reason, though there are a a few lemon W223 cars but not as near as EQS.

Originally Posted by Streamliner

Just curious, HOW were you able to search for “Lemon Title” vehicles?

Originally Posted by SW20S

@Streamliner I just drove an i7, simply the most incredible riding car I have ever driven. Seriously, this car is perfect for you

Originally Posted by js_cls

I think he already drove one?

Originally Posted by SW20S

@Streamliner I just drove an i7, simply the most incredible riding car I have ever driven. Seriously, this car is perfect for you

Originally Posted by Streamliner

The BMW I7 has excellent ride quality, but I’m not ready to go electric just yet and I’m not enamored with what I feel are tacky looking interior doo-dads. I have driven the ICE version as well and was not as nearly as impressed with it, compared to the electric. I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that I am going with a 2019 or 2020 S560 for now. There’s been way too much drama with my daily driver over the past couple of years and I’m hoping a nice W222 will cure that.

Originally Posted by Streamliner

The BMW I7 has excellent ride quality, but I’m not ready to go electric just yet and I’m not enamored with what I feel are tacky looking interior doo-dads. I have driven the ICE version as well and was not as nearly as impressed with it, compared to the electric. I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that I am going with a 2019 or 2020 S560 for now. There’s been way too much drama with my daily driver over the past couple of years and I’m hoping a nice W222 will cure that.

Originally Posted by chassis

Flying Spur is ruled out?

Originally Posted by SW20S

Yeah I wouldn't want to drive a Bentley around all the time either, and the cost is insane I agree.

I have not driven a Flying Spur but I have read several reviews that say the same thing, that the S Class rides better.

Driving my S560 this morning, it really is an incredible riding and driving car, its the first car I have had where I truly don't see anything I really want more, that i7 was the first thing I have driven that I walked away saying wow.

Originally Posted by SW20S

Thats how I got with Lexus. I still like MB's offerings, I like the GLE and GLS, I like the W223 fine I just don't feel a desire to replace my 222 with one, and the issues here give me pause.

My big concern is I really love my S560 and I don't want to replace it with something that will make me miss it, but I also am not somebody who keeps cars for a long time either...so I'm kind of in a conundrum...

Originally Posted by js_cls

Buy out your S560 and wait for the i7 LCI to see what improvements they make. Hopefully by then the market and interest rates will also be better. If the LCI sucks, I have a feeling you will still be able to find pre-LCI cars as 7er’s are sitting on lots.

Originally Posted by Streamliner

I really don’t want a Bentley. Honestly, I prefer the driving characteristics of a W222 over the current Flying Spur and an S560, with 18” wheels, cushy, non-run flats and MBC, in my humble opinion, rides better—much better. In addition, as I get older, I find myself really turned off by the prices of these ultra luxury vehicles and other luxury goods. I’m just not going to drop $300K on a new car and then not be able to drive it anywhere.

I don’t mean to turn this thread in another direction, but in California right now, as well as several other ares of the country, they have thrown all the cages open and allowed the criminals to roam free. I don’t need a car that announces to the world “rich guy here!” A nice, silver, W222 flies under the radar for the most part and that’s just fine with me.