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Congrats! I am seriously tempted by the Model S, the latest price cut makes them a stupid good deal, I mean a Plaid is $100k. My concern is that once the novelty wears off I would miss the features and luxury I’m used to.
Super interested to hear how you like it over time!
I'll keep you posted for sure. But am different because most cars usually wear off on me pretty quick, am a car guy and like to try new things. However, seriously just based on the first couple of days, I have zero regrets. I like the Model S in almost every way and share more than any other car I owned before. There are more things to win that things I lost. If you are tempted by the Model S, I would really suggest you take one for a test drive.. just book a free test drive but make sure you check the show room to see colors and so on. That's what I did, and I was just shocked. Keep in mind that all these demos and factory cars come with 44 PSI in the tires to pump the claimed mileage up ( u know that already from your W222 tires pressure experience), hence you will find any Model S test drive to be super harsh, however, once u adjust them to a more reasonable values lower than 44 PSI, the ride becomes soooooo smooth... I love driving this car... it pushed me to take it for a spin whenever I can more than any other car I owned.. Anyway will keep u posted as my ownership period progressed further, but i truly recommend u test drive one. I don't think other brands had yet cracked the code of reliable EV batteries and motors like Tesla did. Finishing is just fine unlike what YouTubers keep claiming. You can easily reject delivery if there is anything you don't like. Good luck i know u r also shopping for a new ride now.
Over the past 3 weeks, as far as EV cars and PHEV, I cross-shopped and test-drove each of those: EQS, Taycan, Tesla S, i7, iX, EQE, and S560e. Wish I could find a nearby Lucid dealer for a test drive but I couldn't. A day before i chose one, I also thought about i5 but again I did not want to wait too long and it was not possible to meet the i5 in person anytime soon.
Thank you (for the congrats above). I am in a new 2023 Blue exterior, Cream interior, brand new Tesla Model S . Will see how long I can keep this one given my recent years trend. I caught it just in time when the prices are reasonable. They finally offer regular steering wheel, so I passed on the Yoke steering. Given the first couple of days of ownership I am beyond surprised by the tech and powertrain. The car is on the complete far end of laziness vs dynamic, being super dynamic, type of drive. Easy to get into, easy to take off, automatically select gears based on "kind of AI" but can be canceled, and of course full self driving. I do not need all the HP but the Full Self Driving, and the power delivery, plus the tech compensates me enough departing from my S-class (at least for now). I had missed on a great M760 V12 a few weeks ago due to the same reason I mentioned elsewhere "someone being dishonest and wasting my time", and I will continue to be on the look for a fully loaded M760 V12 with the right colors, or will jump to S580e but I am more inclined to staying in the EV world from now on, hence Taycan or Lucid can be next for me in a couple or a few years (or whenever I feel I am done with my current drive). If anyone wants to chat cars, feel free to reach out. Where I live, the car (maybe the color too) turns way more heads than any car I owned before, thought that's not something I weigh in at all for any purchase.
Congrats once again and thanks for posting pictures as well. Glad you found a car that you liked. The exterior colour is nice. Will be curious to hear about your follow up impressions on the vehicle after a few weeks, how do you like it over your previous car, etc. Please also post your impressions with the aforementioned vehicles and how you liked them all but finally decided on this. For those who are shopping EVs, (I am not personally) but I am sure there will be other forum members that find your posts in that case helpful in their buying decision.
I'll keep you posted for sure. But am different because any care usually wears off on me pretty quick, am a car guy and like to try new things. However, seriously just based on the first couple of days, I have zero regrets. I like the Model S in almost every way and share more than any other car I owned before. There are more things to win that things I lost. If you are tempted by the Model S, I would really suggest you take one for a test drive.. just book a free test drive but make sure you check the show room to see colors and so on. That's what I did, and I was just shocked. Keep in mind that all these demos and factory cars come with 44 PSI in the tires to pump the claimed mileage up ( u know that already from your W222 tires pressure experience), hence you will find any Model S test drive to be super harsh, however, once u adjust them to a more reasonable values lower than 44 PSI, the ride becomes soooooo smooth... I love driving this car... it pushed me to take it for a spin whenever I can more than any other car I owned.. Anyway will keep u posted as my ownership period progressed further, but i truly recommend u test drive one. I don't think other brands had yet cracked the code of reliable EV batteries and motors like Tesla did. Finishing is just fine unlike what YouTubers keep claiming. You can easily reject delivery if there is anything you don't like. Good luck i know u r also shopping for a new ride now.
I'll keep you posted for sure. But am different because most cars usually wear off on me pretty quick, am a car guy and like to try new things. However, seriously just based on the first couple of days, I have zero regrets. I like the Model S in almost every way and share more than any other car I owned before. There are more things to win that things I lost. If you are tempted by the Model S, I would really suggest you take one for a test drive.. just book a free test drive but make sure you check the show room to see colors and so on. That's what I did, and I was just shocked. Keep in mind that all these demos and factory cars come with 44 PSI in the tires to pump the claimed mileage up ( u know that already from your W222 tires pressure experience), hence you will find any Model S test drive to be super harsh, however, once u adjust them to a more reasonable values lower than 44 PSI, the ride becomes soooooo smooth... I love driving this car... it pushed me to take it for a spin whenever I can more than any other car I owned.. Anyway will keep u posted as my ownership period progressed further, but i truly recommend u test drive one. I don't think other brands had yet cracked the code of reliable EV batteries and motors like Tesla did. Finishing is just fine unlike what YouTubers keep claiming. You can easily reject delivery if there is anything you don't like. Good luck i know u r also shopping for a new ride now.
I drove one but it was years ago, need to drive the latest model. I loved the i7 I drove, no doubt I will love an EV. My only concern is traveling, which I do in my car 2-3 times a year and to rural WV where charging isn't real straightforward
I drove one but it was years ago, need to drive the latest model. I loved the i7 I drove, no doubt I will love an EV. My only concern is traveling, which I do in my car 2-3 times a year and to rural WV where charging isn't real straightforward
We do the same. In my figure-of-merit comparison table, Tesla charging network was a big factor. I looked over most highway routes and Tesla chargers were available everywhere. Charging speed is also great on Tesla cars especially S and X.
We do the same. In my figure-of-merit comparison table, Tesla charging network was a big factor. I looked over most highway routes and Tesla chargers were available everywhere. Charging speed is also great on Tesla cars especially S and X.
Yeah I would be less concerned in a Tesla, moreso in an i7. Mercedes will have access to Tesla's Superchargers soon but the MB EVs don't appeal to me
Over the past 3 weeks, as far as EV cars and PHEV, I cross-shopped and test-drove each of those: EQS, Taycan, Tesla S, i7, iX, EQE, and S560e. Wish I could find a nearby Lucid dealer for a test drive but I couldn't. A day before i chose one, I also thought about i5 but again I did not want to wait too long and it was not possible to meet the i5 in person anytime soon.
Thank you (for the congrats above). I am in a new 2023 Blue exterior, Cream interior, brand new Tesla Model S . Will see how long I can keep this one given my recent years trend. I caught it just in time when the prices are reasonable. They finally offer regular steering wheel, so I passed on the Yoke steering. Given the first couple of days of ownership I am beyond surprised by the tech and powertrain. The car is on the complete far end of laziness vs dynamic, being super dynamic, type of drive. Easy to get into, easy to take off, automatically select gears based on "kind of AI" but can be canceled, and of course full self driving. I do not need all the HP but the Full Self Driving, and the power delivery, plus the tech compensates me enough departing from my S-class (at least for now). I had missed on a great M760 V12 a few weeks ago due to the same reason I mentioned elsewhere "someone being dishonest and wasting my time", and I will continue to be on the look for a fully loaded M760 V12 with the right colors, or will jump to S580e but I am more inclined to staying in the EV world from now on, hence Taycan or Lucid can be next for me in a couple or a few years (or whenever I feel I am done with my current drive). If anyone wants to chat cars, feel free to reach out. Where I live, the car (maybe the color too) turns way more heads than any car I owned before, thought that's not something I weigh in at all for any purchase.
Congratulations!
What do you mean "automatically select gears based on "kind of AI"" ?
What do you mean "automatically select gears based on "kind of AI"" ?
With the 'tesla auto shift out of park" feature turned on, you can allow the vehicle to auto-select the gear for you based on what the vehicle thinks is the best gear for the situation out of Park gear, and it does that really well. For example, if you are in your garage, and there is no way you can go but backward, the vehicle once you push the brake would auto-select R instead of D as the current gear. If you had parked backward, and there is no way to get out of your garage but driving forward, when you get to your car, it will go from P to D automatically the minute you push the brakes (which is the way you tell your Tesla you are ready to drive). There is no On or power-on button as it is always on when you are in the car (well basically ready to drive I mean). You can remove the auto-select gear feature if you are worried about it , or you can set your daughter/son/spouse or whoever profile and customize each as they like.
Quite a review after test driving so many vehicles. As others have said, please do keep us posted on your new experience. What do your insurance premiums look like with the Tesla vs your previous vehicle?
Quite a review after test driving so many vehicles. As others have said, please do keep us posted on your new experience. What do your insurance premiums look like with the Tesla vs your previous vehicle?
I'll wait for a couple of weeks from now to solidify my experience with Tesla ownership before I share my detailed feedback. As far as other brands (test-drive experience, plus excessive research/reading for months now), I for sure will include that in my review post since you guys are interested. If anyone wants a quick feedback, I have already wrote a long message for someone who contacted me about my preliminary assessment and comparison of all those EVs I considered and can forwards that to all of you.
As for the insurance, I used to pay $110/month for my W222 including Drive-Save-and-Save module (driving habits tracker) through State Farm. My new Tesla quote was $130/month with the same GPS driving tracker or $160/m without. Of course I went without it because I want to enjoy the car without feeling the guild of being monitored for acceleration or cornering.
There are many other states wherein you can get an Insurance directly from Tesla at a much reduced rate. My state is not one of those. Tesla-direct Insurance is available to Tesla owners in the following states: Arizona, California, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, Minnesota, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Virginia
Tesla just has the software and charging side figured out to where you don’t need to think about it. Our first (of 6) EVs was a Tesla and everything else grated on my nerves so badly. The trips were painless and fun with the Tesla.
Surprisingly some of the other vehicles just didn’t have basic software figured out (Audi e-tron was the worst here).
Tesla just has the software and charging side figured out to where you don’t need to think about it. Our first (of 6) EVs was a Tesla and everything else grated on my nerves so badly. The trips were painless and fun with the Tesla.
Surprisingly some of the other vehicles just didn’t have basic software figured out (Audi e-tron was the worst here).
Good to hear. Still didn't go for our first road trip but we're looking forward to it. Charging stations seem to be everywhere, without the need to ever stop at any less than 40% from one to another at least based on the 4-5 highway routes towards the 4 nearby states around us.
Good to hear. Still didn't go for our first road trip but we're looking forward to it. Charging stations seem to be everywhere, without the need to ever stop at any less than 40% from one to another at least based on the 4-5 highway routes towards the 4 nearby states around us.
Congrats, I hope you enjoy it. Also looking forward to a long term review. Great spec, btw.
Just sat in an EQS SUV and an EQS sedan at the MB dealer yesterday. Nice, but just not on the same level as an S Class. Material differences, design differences, feels really like an E Class or GLS inside.
I think it's an electrified CLS.
Think about it. EVs cost more than their gas counterparts aka. BMW i7 and 7 series, Genesis G80 and G80e but EQS is slightly cheaper than the "S". The price makes total sense if you consider it an EV CLS because it costs 20-30k more than the CLS.
EQS has CLS features:
1. Coupe like design
2. Airmatic - (Firmer than the W223)
3. Frameless Doors
It has more space than the CLS but features about the same since the CLS also has multicontour seats, airmatic, etc.
I like Teslas, and would consider the Model X, but man their suspension is bone-jarring stiff. I mean, it was so stiff that it shocked me and didn’t feel luxurious at all. At least that is what I experienced in a Model Y. No idea if the S or X are the same.
Teslas have a lot of novel features that I like that aren’t offered anywhere else, especially in a Mercedes, like sentry mode, being able to play YouTube videos, being able to monitor your cameras WHILE driving, etc.
I think it's an electrified CLS.
Think about it. EVs cost more than their gas counterparts aka. BMW i7 and 7 series, Genesis G80 and G80e but EQS is slightly cheaper than the "S". The price makes total sense if you consider it an EV CLS because it costs 20-30k more than the CLS.
EQS has CLS features:
1. Coupe like design
2. Airmatic - (Firmer than the W223)
3. Frameless Doors
It has more space than the CLS but features about the same since the CLS also has multicontour seats, airmatic, etc.
I would agree with that, except the EQS isn't firmer than the W223, if anything its softer.
I like Teslas, and would consider the Model X, but man their suspension is bone-jarring stiff. I mean, it was so stiff that it shocked me and didn’t feel luxurious at all. At least that is what I experienced in a Model Y. No idea if the S or X are the same.
Teslas have a lot of novel features that I like that aren’t offered anywhere else, especially in a Mercedes, like sentry mode, being able to play YouTube videos, being able to monitor your cameras WHILE driving, etc.
The model Y does NOT have air suspension. Model S and Model X comes with standard adaptive air suspension. Also, even if you get the S or X, make sure to get the smallest wheel size (it does matter much more than it is on Mbenz). With a Tesla, the smaller 19" wheels are a must. Plus, the recommended pressure is always set to 42-44 PSI so they can squeeze a few more miles of claimed range. Adjust that to normal 36-37 PSI, and the ride should be fine. Not an S-class, but still a very good ride. The Y and 3 on the other side no matter what don't ride that well as the lack the adpative air suspension at first place.
I like Teslas, and would consider the Model X, but man their suspension is bone-jarring stiff. I mean, it was so stiff that it shocked me and didn’t feel luxurious at all. At least that is what I experienced in a Model Y. No idea if the S or X are the same.
Teslas have a lot of novel features that I like that aren’t offered anywhere else, especially in a Mercedes, like sentry mode, being able to play YouTube videos, being able to monitor your cameras WHILE driving, etc.
Yes the ride quality and road noise on the 3's and Y's suck. Primary reason I didn't buy one. Supposedly these issues are being addressed on the upcoming refreshed models. We will see...
Yes the ride quality and road noise on the 3's and Y's suck. Primary reason I didn't buy one. Supposedly these issues are being addressed on the upcoming refreshed models. We will see...
Still no air suspension on the new refresh Model 3 highland, but they claim improved road noise/insulation, and better tires for comfort. I doubt the 3 and Y will ever recieve air suspensions, they are made with affordability and lowest price in mind as the end goal… The model Y received a new “comfort” suspension by end of 2022 early 2023 but still no air suspension. Model S and X, even though making no more than 5-10% of Tesla sales, are the only models that receive added tech or higher cost components. With the current focus on scaling the 3 and Y, I won’t be surprised if they drop the S and X in the future from their selection and focus on mass producing 3, Y and CyberTruck. In my view, the only reason they still sell the S despite the low sales numbers is to keep Lucid out struggling and not give them the chance to survive and expand or offer more EVs, even if they have to sell the S and X at a loss.
Issue is the 19s on the Model S really hurt its looks...
Well, most of the photos you see are the ones with the wheel cover on. You can remove these covers, and in fact, the 19" wheels look really good. You'd be surprised how many Model S buyers get the 21" first and then they are all on the market looking to trade their 21" for a 19"... Comfort is better, and the look is good. Plus, on a highway trip, just snap those covers and get 30-40 miles out of 405 miles total possible of additional range if u really care about those few miles to make it to a certain place and avoid one potential stop to charge.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Frenetic
I like Teslas, and would consider the Model X, but man their suspension is bone-jarring stiff. I mean, it was so stiff that it shocked me and didn’t feel luxurious at all. At least that is what I experienced in a Model Y. No idea if the S or X are the same.
Teslas have a lot of novel features that I like that aren’t offered anywhere else, especially in a Mercedes, like sentry mode, being able to play YouTube videos, being able to monitor your cameras WHILE driving, etc.
I agree. Did one of those paid seminars where I got to drive the EQS, Model S and some other electric cars, which I cannot remember. The Tesla rode like a Go-Kart. It was very quick and actually fun to drive, but the ride quality and tire noise got to me during the 15 minute drive. Since we are discussing these cars in the W223 forum, as much as I dislike my S580, none of the electrics I’ve driven—save the I7–were as nearly as quiet, comfortable or rode as well as my S580.
I agree. Did one of those paid seminars where I got to drive the EQS, Model S and some other electric cars, which I cannot remember. The Tesla rode like a Go-Kart. It was very quick and actually fun to drive, but the ride quality and tire noise got to me during the 15 minute drive. Since we are discussing these cars in the W223 forum, as much as I dislike my S580, none of the electrics I’ve driven—save the I7–were as nearly as quiet, comfortable or rode as well as my S580.
Not a single 2015+ car on the planet (below original 150K MSRP) would drive better than S580, in my view. If anyone would want to switch or try anything other than S580, they have to accept the fact ride comfort would degrade. There is one thing I would disagree with though, tire noise and road noise. I don't find the S580 to be that superior in this area. It is just as good as many other luxury cars, and still can get better in this area. Tire noise? S580 actually does pass some tire noise. Comfort/ride quality wise hands down it is the most comfortable car on the planet given the conditions in the first line of my comment. Tire noise and seats comfort are probably better in most EVs than S580.
I agree. Did one of those paid seminars where I got to drive the EQS, Model S and some other electric cars, which I cannot remember. The Tesla rode like a Go-Kart. It was very quick and actually fun to drive, but the ride quality and tire noise got to me during the 15 minute drive. Since we are discussing these cars in the W223 forum, as much as I dislike my S580, none of the electrics I’ve driven—save the I7–were as nearly as quiet, comfortable or rode as well as my S580.
That is a pretty damning comment given all your negative comments about the ride quality of your S580.
There is a bit of whack-a-mole there because you reduce one noise source, another becomes more sensually prominent, comes to the forefront. To me a Taycan is louder than a Panamera because you hear more tire noise. I'm not actually sure which one is quieter if you hold a meter in a like location. The Panny is obvioiusly louder when you're beating on it but just going down the road; in the one case I don't like tire noise and I hear it more there, in the other I do like the sound of an engine, the transmission, and so on. That's sweet music, not noise. I think as we get overall sound volume in cars lower and lower, the perception of sound colors our sense of sound volume in total. Certainly it works that way for me.
Also looking forward to a long term review. Great spec, btw.
