W205C43PFL

Mhmm, motion sickness was one of the issues: https://luxurylaunches.com/transport...pants-sick.php

wildta

That's interesting!

"the process was a lot more complicated than it sounds" 😂

W205C43PFL

Haha indeed : )

SW20S

Thats actually totally a thing, there are limits to how quiet a car can be before it can begin to make occupants feel uncomfortable or sick

S_W222

Well, those who designed the new EV Rolls-Royce Spectre seem to believe the complete opposite. Arguably the most quite vehicle on earth (drivetrain and cabin noise wise)… well at least according to YouTubers which I no longer believe, but I do believe it for this car in particular or at least won’t be surprised. 400 lbs of sound dampening materials alone!!!….just think about that…

I don’t think it’ll make me feel uncomfortable, but I always have music running anyway. I also love how quite my W222 was on highways with the tires I had. Engine was nearly silent, and tires did well, with a well insulated cabin. It was really fun though I know it’s not the best per today’s standards.

SW20S

And the engineers who designed it took into account how quiet they could make it without it making occupants sick.

You can read here about the issue when designing the Ghost:

https://theprint.in/tech/rolls-royce...useous/524750/

S_W222

This is INSANE!. I would have never believed it if I haven’t seen this article. Crazy…

W205C43PFL

That's cool, glad they figured it out.

crabman

I grew up in a car family; my dad owned the shop at the local Dodge dealer, we went to the drags in various cars he built and raced, we worked on all of them, later on I did extensive work on my own cars and raced those, I read about them almost every day, I'm on the forums, you get the idea.
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Having said all that: I didn't know that either.

wildta

So here's another valid reason for not getting an EV. I have an electric loaner right now while my car is getting serviced and went to run an errand. I thought maybe I'll try out one of the chargers in the lot just to get a real feel of the process. Plugged it up and it gave me an estimate of 30min until full. Set a timer on the phone and ran some errands. I was 1min late when I arrived at the vehicle and I see some guy with a BMW PHEV trying to unplug my vehicle but of course it won't unplug without the key. Since I witnessed it and it's a loaner, I didn't really care that much so I just hand him the plug.

I then walk up to the driver's door and I see someone keyed the car. It was probably the impatient Kia EV owner who I saw pull up just as I left my vehicle to run the errands.

This is a real issue to consider because there are so few chargers that this guy was forced to wait for me to charge for 30min. Of course he gets impatient and angry about it, sees a nice Mercedes and keys it. But even if he waited patiently, he would still have to wait and charge his so he'd be there for an hour or so. ​

S_W222

That’s crazy. Sorry that you had to deal such ignorant dump person like that. Of course, someone like that would still key your car for several other reasons; not EV related specifically, but I’d really hate it if that happened to me.

wildta

Thanks. Generally I would just mark it up as a random act of vandalism and wouldn't be that bothered by a scratch on my own vehicle but since it was a loaner, I'll have to confess to my SA on what happened. Hopefully they can buff most of it out.


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MB2timer

EV’s

Tesla

Ford EV’s are subsidized by $72,000.00 per vehicle.

Ford lost 4.5 billion in 2023 due to EV’s

The total cost of EV’s as an expression of dollars per gallon is $17.00

Washington Examiner

Nov 12 2023"

MBS63AMG

There will not be a "lineup" of customers like me, I can assure you of that. This EV fad hopefully gets a big "shock" of rejection.

MBS63AMG

Very well said. I totally agree.