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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:24 AM
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Moving from USA to Panama

I'm moving from Florida to Panama, and considering having my 2023 S Class shipped to Panama City, Panama. I've heard bad stories about US cars having mechancal issues with the gasoline sold in Panama (no ethanol). Should I ship? Any advice is appreciated.
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:58 AM
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No ethanol is a good thing....
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 11:52 AM
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No ethanol is a good thing....
Agree.
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 02:43 PM
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I don’t know what it’s like buying or leasing a new MB in Panama, or if there are huge import duties, etc. For the sake of the question at hand, let’s say that everything is equal and all you would need to do is pay the shipping charges. Even then, I would say DON’T do it.

Too many potential issues that could develop, not the least of which is the car getting damaged in transit. I would unload the car here and get yourself something new in your new location. Best of luck to you.
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 02:57 PM
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An S Class is not the right car to be driven in Panama, we have been there a couple of times there, roads, traffic, service are totally different, I do not even remember seeing an S Class, last time we were there was a couple of years ago, maybe today is different....
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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Ethanol or no ethanol should make no difference to the engine reliability. These are designed to run with up to E10 and anything below that. If issues arise from the fuel, it's because of contaminations or lack of additives found in the TOP TIER fuel brands. There are many sides to the ethanol debate. Ethanol burns quicker, so an engine running on ethanol makes more power, but uses more fuel as there is less energy in a gallon of ethanol vs gasoline. Hypercars such as the Koenigsegg only make max power on E85, so ethanol is not bad per se. It's an octane booster and oxygenate. The latter helps gasoline burn more completely, which is all good. It hasn't lived up to the promised CO2 reduction and such, but that's another story.

Having said that, the first thing you should consider is that you will lose the factory warranty. Warranties are country specific and honored by the importer in each country. Your MBUSA warranty will not transfer to Panama. So if any issues arise with the car, it's gonna be out of pocket. IMHO, shipping a car when relocating to another country is generally not worth it, unless it's a very special car that you can't buy on the other end. A W223 doesn't fall into this category. If you really find you wanna be driving an S Class in Panama, you can buy one over there complete with warranty.

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 10:23 PM
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Been there, the place was not nice to cars at that time, but in fairness, it has been awhile. The posters above me made some great points, and I agree with all of them.

Were it me, I wouldn't take it down, no visible wins, too many ways to taste pain. It used to be fairly cheap to hire a driver, less than a lease, although I'm not sure if that is still the case. Might be worth considering if it hasn't become too dear.
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 11:35 AM
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One more thought: If the OP is not all that familiar with living south of the USA border, they might want to consider how driving a late model S Class might make them stand out from the crowd. If you look very wealthy in a sea of less fortunate folks, that might not be a great thing. You might want to fly below the radar until you get the lay of the land. I’m not sure about Panama specifically, but kidnapping wealthy Americans south of the border is still happening, probably now more than ever. Again, best of luck to you.
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Fearmongering.

Don’t ask on an internet social media forum.

Transport itself is a non-issue and no-brainer.

Call the local Panama MB dealer. Ask how you will have your car serviced either in or out of warranty. Ask about fuel. Ask about titling and registration. Dealer may punt on the last question but you should get a referral from him on who to call next.

Then visit the biggest MB dealer near you, get a coffee (if the syrup machine is working) and find the oldest SA and start chatting about your plans.

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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 12:15 PM
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………..Don’t ask on a forum of temporally elevated members who drive 2,000 miles per year……………..
Just curious: What do you mean by that?
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 12:34 PM
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This came across as a bit abrasive. Your points about calling ahead and seeing what they say are valid. Enjoy your P-car.

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Fearmongering.

Don’t ask on a forum of temporally elevated members who drive 2,000 miles per year.

Transport itself is a non-issue and no-brainer.

Call the local Panama MB dealer. Ask how you will have your car serviced either in or out of warranty. Ask about fuel. Ask about titling and registration. Dealer may punt on the last question but you should get a referral from him on who to call next.

Then visit the biggest MB dealer near you, get a coffee (if the syrup machine is working) and find the oldest SA and start chatting about your plans.
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chassis
………….Don’t ask on a forum of temporally elevated members who drive 2,000 miles per year……….


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This came across as a bit abrasive. Your points about calling ahead and seeing what they say are valid. Enjoy your P-car.
You're right. I edited the post. Mea culpa.
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Old Jan 20, 2025 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Ethanol or no ethanol should make no difference to the engine reliability. These are designed to run with up to E10 and anything below that. If issues arise from the fuel, it's because of contaminations or lack of additives found in the TOP TIER fuel brands. There are many sides to the ethanol debate. Ethanol burns quicker, so an engine running on ethanol makes more power, but uses more fuel as there is less energy in a gallon of ethanol vs gasoline. Hypercars such as the Koenigsegg only make max power on E85, so ethanol is not bad per se. It's an octane booster and oxygenate. The latter helps gasoline burn more completely, which is all good. It hasn't lived up to the promised CO2 reduction and such, but that's another story.

Having said that, the first thing you should consider is that you will lose the factory warranty. Warranties are country specific and honored by the importer in each country. Your MBUSA warranty will not transfer to Panama. So if any issues arise with the car, it's gonna be out of pocket. IMHO, shipping a car when relocating to another country is generally not worth it, unless it's a very special car that you can't buy on the other end. A W223 doesn't fall into this category. If you really find you wanna be driving an S Class in Panama, you can buy one over there complete with warranty.
I am assuming that losing the warranty would be true for importing a car from Canada correct?
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Old Jan 20, 2025 | 01:39 PM
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I am assuming that losing the warranty would be true for importing a car from Canada correct?
Correct.
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Old Jan 20, 2025 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MBNUT1
I am assuming that losing the warranty would be true for importing a car from Canada correct?
Is it still valid in the Canada side of things if you drive the car back to Canada for the service?
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Is it still valid in the Canada side of things if you drive the car back to Canada for the service?
Yes, the warranty remains valid technically in the country where the car was originally sold.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Yes, the warranty remains valid technically in the country where the car was originally sold.
I see that is good importing doesn't automatically void it.
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The OP hasn't been back. Be nice to know if they reached a decision.
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The OP hasn't been back. Be nice to know if they reached a decision.
Usually the case from what I experienced, new forum members usually don't come back after leaving a post/thread. Not surprised.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Usually the case from what I experienced, new forum members usually don't come back after leaving a post/thread. Not surprised.
Maybe she heard that the US was going to take the canal back so she just went ahead and moved to Panama.
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Maybe she heard that the US was going to take the canal back so she just went ahead and moved to Panama.

Well, we are going to need to have a secure channel to get from the Gulf of America to Panama bay......
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