S-Class (W223) 2021 to Present

Tariffs and Parts (no politics please, go use the off-topic one)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 09:23 AM
  #1  
Frenetic's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,136
Likes: 942
From: Costco
2023 S500
Tariffs and Parts (no politics please, go use the off-topic one)

So, this Reddit post confirms that Mercedes is standing pat for 2025. It also confirms part prices are affected. However, it appears that tariff-induced price increases are coming for the 2026 MY. I would purchase a 2025 MY right now versus risk waiting for a 2026 model.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mercedes_benz/s/lc31uyjN8K

So, I feel pretty good purchasing that pre-paid maintenance. I knew it was a hedge against inflation but now it’s a hedge against tariffs.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 09:34 AM
  #2  
S_W222's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 3,128
Likes: 1,506
From: U.S.
Current/Last 5-years:GLS;G70;Alpina B8;X7;Accord. Sold:X7,TeslaS;S560;S550,X5;530e;L.Navigator;LS460
Glad to see that other one moved to political discussions subforum where it belongs. It was kinda boring with most of you busy with politics in that thread, given that we are in a car forum lol. Back on topic now : )

Last edited by S_W222; Apr 16, 2025 at 09:54 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 10:09 AM
  #3  
S_W222's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 3,128
Likes: 1,506
From: U.S.
Current/Last 5-years:GLS;G70;Alpina B8;X7;Accord. Sold:X7,TeslaS;S560;S550,X5;530e;L.Navigator;LS460
As I was reading your post, I did a quick review of the 3 Mercedes dealers (and 2 BMW dealers) that are within 300 miles radius from me, which I know and always track very well.

I've been checking in their inventories almost every weekend for the past few years, often taking a look at their X7, GLS, EQS and W223, and X6 inventory, so I can track the market well and understand the pricing structure given how often I trade in. I can see two new-listings of pre-owned GLS and one EQS added to the inventory by these 3 dealers in the past 1-2 weeks. Each one of these 3 is at least 10K higher than the previous average listing price for the same year and condition. They are asking 73K for a GLS that was often in the low 60s for that mileage and age. I can see the EQS in the mid 70s when their last EQS with similar mileage and year was in the 60s. I haven't seen any other recent posting for X7/X6 which I have been tracking very well, but will keep an eye on those. \

Conclusion is: I can see at least based on these 3 new listing that Mbenz dealers are asking 15% more or so more for their pre-owned inventory. Over the years, their asking price was very consistent as if they are using a formula, and only drops slowly for a given model year. These 3 cars now with at least 10K higher asking price than normal is definitely an indication that they'd be making more money now from their pre-owned inventory even though the brand-new ones are still offered for the same original MSRP.

Also keep in mind most dealers will offer 5-8% discount on brand-new cars. I guess that won't be the case now. My BMW dealer would often offer me 8-9% off MSRP on any of their new-car inventory, and anywhere in the range of 10-15% of some of their stupid models that are very hard to move like the XM and i7. Am pretty sure that won't be the case now.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 10:31 AM
  #4  
JTK44's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 3,048
Likes: 905
From: Long Island, NY
2019 E 450, 2016 E350 4matic (retired), 2018 Ford Edge Sport, 2008 Porsche Boxster
Originally Posted by S_W222
As I was reading your post, I did a quick review of the 3 Mercedes dealers (and 2 BMW dealers) that are within 300 miles radius from me, which I know and always track very well.

I've been checking in their inventories almost every weekend for the past few years, often taking a look at their X7, GLS, EQS and W223, and X6 inventory, so I can track the market well and understand the pricing structure given how often I trade in. I can see two new-listings of pre-owned GLS and one EQS added to the inventory by these 3 dealers in the past 1-2 weeks. Each one of these 3 is at least 10K higher than the previous average listing price for the same year and condition. They are asking 73K for a GLS that was often in the low 60s for that mileage and age. I can see the EQS in the mid 70s when their last EQS with similar mileage and year was in the 60s. I haven't seen any other recent posting for X7/X6 which I have been tracking very well, but will keep an eye on those. \

Conclusion is: I can see at least based on these 3 new listing that Mbenz dealers are asking 15% more or so more for their pre-owned inventory. Over the years, their asking price was very consistent as if they are using a formula, and only drops slowly for a given model year. These 3 cars now with at least 10K higher asking price than normal is definitely an indication that they'd be making more money now from their pre-owned inventory even though the brand-new ones are still offered for the same original MSRP.

Also keep in mind most dealers will offer 5-8% discount on brand-new cars. I guess that won't be the case now. My BMW dealer would often offer me 8-9% off MSRP on any of their new-car inventory, and anywhere in the range of 10-15% of some of their stupid models that are very hard to move like the XM and i7. Am pretty sure that won't be the case now.
Thanks for posting:

I think until the tariff situation is spelled out we are in a period similar to what we all experienced during Covid: Limited inventory of both new and used cars. Dealers will try to get as much for their cars as possible.

For those who must buy now they have no choice. For anyone who can wait, that I would think would be prudent. People who buy now and do not have to when it comes time to either trade in or sell, (which eventually is everyone) based on what they paid, they will be extremely disappointed.

I will be taking my own advice: The extended warranty on my 2019 E450 ends in December, 2025. In September/October I was planning on ordering a 2026 to be delivered in December. Now I plan to wait. Hopefully, I will not have any major problems starting in January 2026 after my extended warranty has expired!

Just my $.02.

Last edited by JTK44; Apr 16, 2025 at 10:35 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 11:01 AM
  #5  
Dima's Avatar
Super Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 759
Likes: 258
From: Boston
AMG
MY26 will have significant updates to S and C classes, and some technological changes in E class. So from that perspective it's good to wait.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 02:11 PM
  #6  
MBNUT1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,976
Likes: 1,344
From: Cincinnati
2010 E350 4Matic
Originally Posted by JTK44
Thanks for posting:

I think until the tariff situation is spelled out we are in a period similar to what we all experienced during Covid: Limited inventory of both new and used cars. Dealers will try to get as much for their cars as possible.

For those who must buy now they have no choice. For anyone who can wait, that I would think would be prudent. People who buy now and do not have to when it comes time to either trade in or sell, (which eventually is everyone) based on what they paid, they will be extremely disappointed.

I will be taking my own advice: The extended warranty on my 2019 E450 ends in December, 2025. In September/October I was planning on ordering a 2026 to be delivered in December. Now I plan to wait. Hopefully, I will not have any major problems starting in January 2026 after my extended warranty has expired!

Just my $.02.
Drove through a local automall after a run to Costco last night. Inventory looks down.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 02:49 PM
  #7  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
MBWorld God!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,331
Likes: 6,312
Originally Posted by S_W222
As I was reading your post, I did a quick review of the 3 Mercedes dealers (and 2 BMW dealers) that are within 300 miles radius from me, which I know and always track very well.

I've been checking in their inventories almost every weekend for the past few years, often taking a look at their X7, GLS, EQS and W223, and X6 inventory, so I can track the market well and understand the pricing structure given how often I trade in. I can see two new-listings of pre-owned GLS and one EQS added to the inventory by these 3 dealers in the past 1-2 weeks. Each one of these 3 is at least 10K higher than the previous average listing price for the same year and condition. They are asking 73K for a GLS that was often in the low 60s for that mileage and age. I can see the EQS in the mid 70s when their last EQS with similar mileage and year was in the 60s. I haven't seen any other recent posting for X7/X6 which I have been tracking very well, but will keep an eye on those. \

Conclusion is: I can see at least based on these 3 new listing that Mbenz dealers are asking 15% more or so more for their pre-owned inventory. Over the years, their asking price was very consistent as if they are using a formula, and only drops slowly for a given model year. These 3 cars now with at least 10K higher asking price than normal is definitely an indication that they'd be making more money now from their pre-owned inventory even though the brand-new ones are still offered for the same original MSRP.

Also keep in mind most dealers will offer 5-8% discount on brand-new cars. I guess that won't be the case now. My BMW dealer would often offer me 8-9% off MSRP on any of their new-car inventory, and anywhere in the range of 10-15% of some of their stupid models that are very hard to move like the XM and i7. Am pretty sure that won't be the case now.
Yikes, so fair to say this is a worse situation than chip shortage and ADM?
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 07:10 PM
  #8  
Frenetic's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,136
Likes: 942
From: Costco
2023 S500
So, I know MSRP’s tend to go up each year no matter what, but how much of 26’s price increase will be tariff related.

I did search for past MSRPs and, using the base S500 as an example.

2021 S500: $109,800
2022 S500: $112,150
2023 S500: $115,650
2024 S500: $117,300
2025 S500: $117,750

The largest year-over-year price increase was $3,500 in 2023. The average yearly price increase was $1,988. I’m surprised how little the 2024 to 2025 increase was. The huge 2022 to 2023 increase wasn’t surprising considering that was during the teeth of inflation and car shortage madness. Let’s see what happens in 2026 due to Tariffs and inflation.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 07:17 PM
  #9  
JTK44's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 3,048
Likes: 905
From: Long Island, NY
2019 E 450, 2016 E350 4matic (retired), 2018 Ford Edge Sport, 2008 Porsche Boxster
Originally Posted by Frenetic
So, I know MSRP’s tend to go up each year no matter what, but how much of 26’s price increase will be tariff related.

I did search for past MSRPs and, using the base S500 as an example.

2021 S500: $109,800
2022 S500: $112,150
2023 S500: $115,650
2024 S500: $117,300
2025 S500: $117,750

The largest year-over-year price increase was $3,500 in 2023. The average yearly price increase was $1,988. I’m surprised how little the 2024 to 2025 increase was. The huge 2022 to 2023 increase wasn’t surprising considering that was during the teeth of inflation and car shortage madness. Let’s see what happens in 2026 due to Tariffs and inflation.
For what it is worth:

The MSRP on the my 2019 E450 was just over $70,000. A similarly equipped 2025 E450 is $76,000. The increase over 6 years is substantially less than inflation.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 08:24 PM
  #10  
Streamliner's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,139
Likes: 4,361
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Is anybody looking at American made vehicles to see what—if any—price increases are currently happening? Just curious.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 08:46 PM
  #11  
Frenetic's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,136
Likes: 942
From: Costco
2023 S500
Yeah, I noted the Yukon Denali and Escalade MSRP just for my own curiosity. I know GMC has a lot of parts made across both borders under the previous free-trade, no-tariff either way arrangement.

2025 Yukon Denali Ultimate MSRP @ $103,995
2025 Cadillac Escalade Premium Luxury Platinum MSRP@ $122,095

Let’s see what 2026 brings.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 09:02 PM
  #12  
Streamliner's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,139
Likes: 4,361
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Frenetic
Yeah, I noted the Yukon Denali and Escalade MSRP just for my own curiosity. I know GMC has a lot of parts made across both borders under the previous free-trade, no-tariff either way arrangement.

2025 Yukon Denali Ultimate MSRP @ $103,995
2025 Cadillac Escalade Premium Luxury Platinum MSRP@ $122,095

Let’s see what 2026 brings.
Are those prices higher than a month ago?
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2025 | 09:35 PM
  #13  
Frenetic's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,136
Likes: 942
From: Costco
2023 S500
I don’t believe so. But supply-chain tariffs usually don’t appear overnight as most manufacturers prepaid months (or longer) in advance and/or have an existing inventory of parts on hand for build projections. It might take a little time before we start seeing the effects of any price changes in the supply chain due to how these logistical supply chains work.

Also, with the 2026 model year right around the corner, it wouldn’t surprise me if we see no changes to the 2025 model year. I think the MSRP for the 2026 MY will be a better tell.


Last edited by Frenetic; Apr 16, 2025 at 09:41 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2025 | 10:05 PM
  #14  
crabman's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,296
Likes: 1,481
23 S580 Executive
Voelk has a video up on the NYAS: Paraphrasing here, he said a few brands were missing, but what's really missing, is pricing. Not to be seen anywhere.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2025 | 03:41 PM
  #15  
Frenetic's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,136
Likes: 942
From: Costco
2023 S500
I read an article that Ford is expected to raise prices in June if the existing Canada/Mexico tariffs remain in place. Also, car insurance rates are expected to rise as well simply due to increased part prices. Skyrocketing insurance rates without tariffs is bad enough. This would be like salt in a wound.

https://finance.yahoo.com/personal-f...210219360.html
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2025 | 05:47 PM
  #16  
crabman's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,296
Likes: 1,481
23 S580 Executive
There was never any chance the insurance companies were going to absorb costs; with any level of increased tariffs.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2025 | 06:18 PM
  #17  
retatt's Avatar
Member
Veteran: Army
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2022
Posts: 119
Likes: 50
From: Central Washington
Makes me I glad I just changed carriers to reduce my premium. Unfortunately, just for 6 months.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2025 | 07:59 PM
  #18  
crabman's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,296
Likes: 1,481
23 S580 Executive
I got a 250 dollar bump up a few weeks before the tariffs hit, so I've got a little time before the tariff pricing kicks in. The insurance hike is probably more insult, than injury, to the people hanging in this section of the forum; but kids starting out, people working on a wage, they're going to feel it.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:13 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE