The new 2027 S-Class: The Walkaround
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Dealer Order Guide Update?
The Dealer Order Guide that Mb260e was able to supply a few weeks ago said that the order bank for the S-580 would open on January 31 and that the S-580e and S-500 would be mid-February. Does anyone know if the ordering has begun and if there is a complete DOG?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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The S63 PHEV system is not just an issue for longevity but is a huge issue for "shortivity" as my '25 S63 E Performance Manufacturer buyback is just one of many that has had some big issues with the plug in hybrid setup. Just completed the buyback and waiting on the '27 S63 WITHOUT the plug in hybrid.
MT, sorry you had that experience with your car
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[QUOTE=carlosinseattle;9267269]7 of 24 2024-2026 used S63's are lemoned cars. That is an astounding ratio of cars that have been bought back and lemon lawed. I'm frankly amazed to see so many cars with less than 10K miles. Maybe I'm just out of touch with this level of car, but there's a story there...and it begins with BUYER BEWARE/QUOTE]
When I was lookin in late 2025, there were tons of Lemon Law cars. 90% were in California, dont know if MBUSA were sending them there for Manheim Auctions.
When I was lookin in late 2025, there were tons of Lemon Law cars. 90% were in California, dont know if MBUSA were sending them there for Manheim Auctions.
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7 of 24 2024-2026 used S63's are lemoned cars. That is an astounding ratio of cars that have been bought back and lemon lawed. I'm frankly amazed to see so many cars with less than 10K miles. Maybe I'm just out of touch with this level of car, but there's a story there...and it begins with BUYER BEWARE!
MT, sorry you had that experience with your car
MT, sorry you had that experience with your car
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[QUOTE=natcahd;9267278]
That was based on a quick search on Carfax this morning. Somehow I forgot to type that information on the previous post.
That is totally insane!!! I'm nost slamming Mb, or the car, but its becoming evident that they punched above their weight class in terms of complexity. Once I heard about the 2 speed gearbox obove the rear axle I knew that was going to be major trouble, I metioned that in a post a few years back. They increased the complexity exponentially while increasing performance and useability incrementally, and that's debatable, with the new S63.
7 of 24 2024-2026 used S63's are lemoned cars. That is an astounding ratio of cars that have been bought back and lemon lawed. I'm frankly amazed to see so many cars with less than 10K miles. Maybe I'm just out of touch with this level of car, but there's a story there...and it begins with BUYER BEWARE/QUOTE]
When I was lookin in late 2025, there were tons of Lemon Law cars. 90% were in California, dont know if MBUSA were sending them there for Manheim Auctions.
When I was lookin in late 2025, there were tons of Lemon Law cars. 90% were in California, dont know if MBUSA were sending them there for Manheim Auctions.
That is totally insane!!! I'm nost slamming Mb, or the car, but its becoming evident that they punched above their weight class in terms of complexity. Once I heard about the 2 speed gearbox obove the rear axle I knew that was going to be major trouble, I metioned that in a post a few years back. They increased the complexity exponentially while increasing performance and useability incrementally, and that's debatable, with the new S63.
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That was based on a quick search on Carfax this morning. Somehow I forgot to type that information on the previous post.
That is totally insane!!! I'm nost slamming Mb, or the car, but its becoming evident that they punched above their weight class in terms of complexity. Once I heard about the 2 speed gearbox obove the rear axle I knew that was going to be major trouble, I metioned that in a post a few years back. They increased the complexity exponentially while increasing performance and useability incrementally, and that's debatable, with the new S63.
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Actually why don't we talk about the 2027 refresh S Class in this thread? Seeing that the PHEV powertrain for the S63 likely isn't going to exist in it probably best to start another thread to discuss that.
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I think they've done a spectacular job with the interior and exterior, as close to a home run as I can remember. My only point of contention is the look of the lower front air vents on the AMG exterior package. The air vents look too much like a "fake" AMG bumper kit. They're obviously real, but I think they look too sporty and therefor don't fit with the overall character of the car. However, maybe since they're changing the motor to a flat plane crank it will match the character of the car. Nect thing you know they're put in a dry sump for lower CG. And the black part around the front grill doesn't look all that sharp, but I'll reserve judgement until I see one in person. Otherwise it's a homerun inside and out.
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Point taken.
I think they've done a spectacular job with the interior and exterior, as close to a home run as I can remember. My only point of contention is the look of the lower front air vents on the AMG exterior package. The air vents look too much like a "fake" AMG bumper kit. They're obviously real, but I think they look too sporty and therefor don't fit with the overall character of the car. However, maybe since they're changing the motor to a flat plane crank it will match the character of the car. Nect thing you know they're put in a dry sump for lower CG. And the black part around the front grill doesn't look all that sharp, but I'll reserve judgement until I see one in person. Otherwise it's a homerun inside and out.
I think they've done a spectacular job with the interior and exterior, as close to a home run as I can remember. My only point of contention is the look of the lower front air vents on the AMG exterior package. The air vents look too much like a "fake" AMG bumper kit. They're obviously real, but I think they look too sporty and therefor don't fit with the overall character of the car. However, maybe since they're changing the motor to a flat plane crank it will match the character of the car. Nect thing you know they're put in a dry sump for lower CG. And the black part around the front grill doesn't look all that sharp, but I'll reserve judgement until I see one in person. Otherwise it's a homerun inside and out.
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I actually think they look very similar, other than the minor changes that I dislike. I expected the exterior to look much different because the front needed some work, but it’s just like all previous facelifts (subtle change, which is fair). The interior is the only part that changed significantly. Most people won’t even be able to tell which one is the newer one by looking at the exterior. The interior for sure looks much more modern.
In this photo above, the pre-facelift actually looks better.
In this photo above, the pre-facelift actually looks better.
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Both are gorgeous cars but I find the difference between the two quite large. Having of pic of the same angle would be ideal of course.
They are obviously more subtle element changes but still creates a bigger difference as a whole IMO. The pre-facelift look a bit more generic. The facelift has a more integrated looking grill and the larger size towards the bottom along with the fascia elements creates a lower and bit more aggressive front fascia. This can be seen also on the non-sport version.
Moving the trim up from the rocker panel is actually a great improvement as the car now has flares on the panel front and rear (something i liked on the W221 Sport package)
They are obviously more subtle element changes but still creates a bigger difference as a whole IMO. The pre-facelift look a bit more generic. The facelift has a more integrated looking grill and the larger size towards the bottom along with the fascia elements creates a lower and bit more aggressive front fascia. This can be seen also on the non-sport version.
Moving the trim up from the rocker panel is actually a great improvement as the car now has flares on the panel front and rear (something i liked on the W221 Sport package)
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