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Curious if, according to Mercedes, over 50% of the refresh is new technologies and parts, if someone should be wary of buying the first model year of the refresh, or does that only apply to all new models?
I was wondering the same thing, but I think this is a gross exaggeration and the all-new V8 constitutes the bulk of the “new parts.” If the engine has 1,000 parts then they’re technically not lying if they’re throwing that into the total. Other than the obvious engine, cosmetic and interior changes, everything else is probably the same.
Good question. I too am interested in Self Driving. However, I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about Drive Pilot in any of the refresh videos I've come across. Is Drive Pilot being replaced by the new technology in the refresh model?
I think I had posted this before on the forum, but yes, Mercedes has an upcoming (this year) point to point navigation system, similar to FSD. This will only be for MB.OS systems with the underlying Nvidia processor. https://mbworld.org/forums/cla-eq/92...ssist-pro.html
Good question. I too am interested in Self Driving. However, I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about Drive Pilot in any of the refresh videos I've come across. Is Drive Pilot being replaced by the new technology in the refresh model?
Thanks for the reminder on your post. And to answer my own question from earlier in this thread, It states in the Car and Driver article "DriveAssist Pro isn't an evolution of Drive Pilot, but rather a different feature with its own capabilities".
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Hyperscreen setup is similar to the Porsche main screens + “passenger screen” which came out for MY24 in the US market for Cayenne and Panamera.
Despite the many components that made up the facelift, I believe the use of the Superscreen was planned for a while (along with the W214) and is to some extend already outdated.
Looking at the new and cheaper GLC EV, you can see a more elegant single design and some wood on the dashboard which would have made some members much happier
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Despite the many components that made up the facelift, I believe the use of the Superscreen was planned for a while (along with the W214) and is to some extend already outdated.
Looking at the new and cheaper GLC EV, you can see a more elegant single design and some wood on the dashboard which would have made some members much happier
Despite the many components that made up the facelift, I believe the use of the Superscreen was planned for a while (along with the W214) and is to some extend already outdated.
Looking at the new and cheaper GLC EV, you can see a more elegant single design and some wood on the dashboard which would have made some members much happier
Despite the many components that made up the facelift, I believe the use of the Superscreen was planned for a while (along with the W214) and is to some extend already outdated.
Looking at the new and cheaper GLC EV, you can see a more elegant single design and some wood on the dashboard which would have made some members much happier
This is a great point; and I agree. Not only outdated, but it also has some elements from the oder EQS more than the E in some areas. For example, you will notice that the the E-class dash implementation is better in certain ways than the current S facelift after taking a closer look. In the E-class, the right/passenger air vent is well integrated seamlessly with the dash. Wherein in the new S, it has a very large plastic gloss-black that takeaways from the glass and screen continued space and adds that wird circular air vent around a large gloss-black plastic peace (yet it also adds the interesting LEDs). The air vent looks like an add-on. This "design" is taken from the older dash that we first saw in the EQS in 2021 (below, and looks exactly like the new facelift S now (1st photo). The 2nd photo is from the S facelift. The 3rd photo is from the E-class dash.
I do agree that the design in the GLC EV has more wood and more of a "next-gen" compared to the current one. This is not the first time, however, that Mbenz played it safe with S. Safe for the W222 facelift, at some point in 2018/2019, the E-class had better screens and software. Nobody complained by then cause the design and materials were perfect already, even though the E had a newer software and perhaps better screens resolution.
The technical underpinnings on the new S-class are the latest and greatest MB has to offer even if the display is not.
Ideally I would prefer even a curved display but don’t think it’s a showstopper in any way.
True. Even design wise, regardless of what we think of the new display (good or bad), it is still an "improvement" over the tablet design, which was really bad in my view. Some may "dislike" the all-screen design and think it is not an S-like dash, like I do, but many "hated" the tablet.
What do u mean by a curved display by the way? Mbenz doesn't have that, unless you are referring to the larger one in the EQS?
True. Even design wise, regardless of what we think of the new display (good or bad), it is still an "improvement" over the tablet design, which was really bad in my view. Some may "dislike" the all-screen design and think it is not an S-like dash, like I do, but many "hated" the tablet.
What do u mean by a curved display by the way? Mbenz doesn't have that, unless you are referring to the larger one in the EQS?
I would mind having the screen curved rather than a completely flat surface (think BMW or Cayenne EV). So it could be a bit more sculpted instead of bing a slab
I like the new S class but not enough for me to trade in my four-year-old S580. The glitches have all been pretty well worked out in my S580 and frankly it’s been a pleasure to drive after the first six months of ownership.
I only have 15,000 miles on it and really cannot find a justification to trade it in for the new S class. That doesn’t mean I don’t like it. It just doesn’t incentivize me to trade in my four-year-old S class. Might as well enjoy my current S class for a few more years as the steep depreciation curve is now beginning to flatten out somewhat.
I like the new S class but not enough for me to trade in my four-year-old S580. The glitches have all been pretty well worked out in my S580 and frankly it’s been a pleasure to drive after the first six months of ownership.
I only have 15,000 miles on it and really cannot find a justification to trade it in for the new S class. That doesn’t mean I don’t like it. It just doesn’t incentivize me to trade in my four-year-old S class. Might as well enjoy my current S class for a few more years as the steep depreciation curve is now beginning to flatten out somewhat.
I've had one issue in the last 3 years (trunk release mechanism failed)... No problems otherwise. However, I'm dubious about owning this vehicle outside of the warranty period. Could be an option w/ an extended warranty, but I'd be bored to tears w/ it by then.
Anyone know if the new S500 will get the updated Straight-Six engine? I personally think this engine is awesome. I just had a four-hour drive at a near constant 75 MPH and averaged 32 MPG.
Anyone know if the new S500 will get the updated Straight-Six engine? I personally think this engine is awesome. I just had a four-hour drive at a near constant 75 MPH and averaged 32 MPG. https://youtu.be/GFXuY0_vW7c
Yes.. the facelifted will come with the upgrading (or Evo as the call it) version of the engine M256M
The tuning and maps will be different though between the S and the AMG GLC 53. The AMG GLC mapping obviously is for aggression as with any AMG. Mbenz for sure will map the S class differently, so even though the HP is the same but the car will feel less aggressive, less sound and will rely on the electric compressor a bit more.
Yes.. the facelifted will come with the upgrading (or Evo as the call it) version of the engine M256M
The tuning and maps will be different though between the S and the AMG GLC 53. The AMG GLC mapping obviously is for aggression as with any AMG. Mbenz for sure will map the S class differently, so even though the HP is the same but the car will feel less aggressive, less sound and will rely on the electric compressor a bit more.
I like all-new engines and the new flat-plane V8 intrigues me as much as the straight six did when it came out. It’s going to be a tough decision which one I get.
I felt like the straight six settled down at around 15k miles. It literally took that long to get broken in for me. The engine feels exceptionally smooth now. In fact, the entire car finally feels broken in after years of driving since I don’t drive much and it took me this long to get up to those miles. It’s weird but the car kind of felt unsettled at times through 10k miles. Not necessarily in a bad way (aside from the transmission) but it just didn’t feel as composed as it does now at 15k+ miles. It feels rock solid and more smooth now versus driving it off the lot.
I like all-new engines and the new flat-plane V8 intrigues me as much as the straight six did when it came out. It’s going to be a tough decision which one I get.
I felt like the straight six settled down at around 15k miles. It literally took that long to get broken in for me. The engine feels exceptionally smooth now. In fact, the entire car finally feels broken in after years of driving since I don’t drive much and it took me this long to get up to those miles. It’s weird but the car kind of felt unsettled at times through 10k miles. Not necessarily in a bad way (aside from the transmission) but it just didn’t feel as composed as it does now at 15k+ miles. It feels rock solid and more smooth now versus driving it off the lot.
In fact, most german brands keep their engine core (block) the same for many generations, and even across many models. The upgrades are often more focused on the internals and sub-components. It all depends on how you define a (new) engine.
With these engines, you can't really decide until you drive both. I'd get the V8 for example, likely, for the S, but I wouldn't even touch it for the GLS (the inline 6 was much much smoother and matched the character of the car better). So, it all depends. The inline-6 is an excellent engine in my view but not for all cars. In a sedan, I often need more instantaneous power. Some folks here on the forum (including me) reported that the inline-6 pairs better with the "clunky" Mbenz transmission which I found to be very true. Before the EQ boost, the inline-6 was so under-powered for any Benz. With EQ boost and the turbos, it's so powerful and responsive in my GLS.
The flat plane V8 isn't all new either, its heavily re engineered but not all new.
All new in the sense that they engineered and designed it better than its predecessor. I’m sure the straight six will prove to be very reliable. I assume the new V8 will be the same.
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