Paddles in S65????
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The word from Brabus USA and CEC (both of which were extremely helpful and responded to my inquiries promptly and thoroughly) is...
The steering wheel is one of Brabus' signature items, and is a special order item as well. The S65 AMG version is not ready yet, and they have just started rolling out the S550 ones. The S65 AMG version should be available soon. The expected price is roughly $2500, but further details will be available shortly. The order will be placed in Germany and the build time is approx. 10 - 12 weeks (anticipated, not official yet).
The steering wheel is one of Brabus' signature items, and is a special order item as well. The S65 AMG version is not ready yet, and they have just started rolling out the S550 ones. The S65 AMG version should be available soon. The expected price is roughly $2500, but further details will be available shortly. The order will be placed in Germany and the build time is approx. 10 - 12 weeks (anticipated, not official yet).
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OK what? Why does the 2007 E63 AMG have paddles and the 2007 S65 AMG not?
Scroll to middle of thread below for pics:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/156946-2007-e63-arrived.html
What is wrong with MB? *sigh*
Scroll to middle of thread below for pics:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/156946-2007-e63-arrived.html
What is wrong with MB? *sigh*
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The s65 will have paddles, you can take a look at http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/s65b6.jpg
Info taken from jesmb.de
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Info taken from jesmb.de
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Originally Posted by stekki
The s65 will have paddles, you can take a look at http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/s65b6.jpg
Info taken from jesmb.de
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The MBUSA website also shows a pic of the S65 with paddles,yet real cars have only these stupid buttons.
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Originally Posted by absent
Well,there are dozens already delivered here and none of them has paddles.
The MBUSA website also shows a pic of the S65 with paddles,yet real cars have only these stupid buttons.
The MBUSA website also shows a pic of the S65 with paddles,yet real cars have only these stupid buttons.
Well here in europe they come with paddles, strange.
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Originally Posted by stekki
Well here in europe they come with paddles, strange.
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Actualy I think mbusa rushed this car to market. I too turned my ordered car down, not only for not having paddles but also no amg floormats?! The floor mats were not even mentioned on the window sticker. May be the 2nd batch of cars will be correct.
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Told my dealer that I (and several other pals who are repeat 55/65 buyers w/CL/S63/65 on order) would pass on any 63/65 with wood/leath steering wheel and lacking paddles...
Dealer passed along my views to MBUSA and was assured S63 will have leather steering wheel and paddles....but no launch timing provided...
But given all the official pics of CL63 floating around....and how much more profitable 63s are than 550s, I suspect CL63/S63 will hit US by Dec/Jan....
Dealer passed along my views to MBUSA and was assured S63 will have leather steering wheel and paddles....but no launch timing provided...
But given all the official pics of CL63 floating around....and how much more profitable 63s are than 550s, I suspect CL63/S63 will hit US by Dec/Jan....
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Honestly, though, if the S63 has paddles and the S65 continues to ship without paddles, that'd be idiotic on MBUSA's part.
Sure, we can get them from Brabus, but why? It's something that should be standard on a $180k car, especially when $90k cars are getting it (E63). The only reason we should ever have to get the Brabus steering wheel is if we *wanted* to, not because we're forced to get it since the MBUSA version has the stupid buttons.
Sure, we can get them from Brabus, but why? It's something that should be standard on a $180k car, especially when $90k cars are getting it (E63). The only reason we should ever have to get the Brabus steering wheel is if we *wanted* to, not because we're forced to get it since the MBUSA version has the stupid buttons.
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Originally Posted by sithlordabe
Honestly, though, if the S63 has paddles and the S65 continues to ship without paddles, that'd be idiotic on MBUSA's part.
Sure, we can get them from Brabus, but why? It's something that should be standard on a $180k car, especially when $90k cars are getting it (E63). The only reason we should ever have to get the Brabus steering wheel is if we *wanted* to, not because we're forced to get it since the MB version has the stupid buttons.
Sure, we can get them from Brabus, but why? It's something that should be standard on a $180k car, especially when $90k cars are getting it (E63). The only reason we should ever have to get the Brabus steering wheel is if we *wanted* to, not because we're forced to get it since the MB version has the stupid buttons.
Let's just hope they program CL63/65 w/driver-focused ABC, steering feel, and SpeedShift paddle shifters, rather than some 2-door limo nonsense....
'07 SL65/55 has paddles and leather steering wheel, but can't get over how ancient the SL's interior finishes/ergonomics/infotainment/airbag systems/headlight systems, etc are vs new-gen S/CL.....
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Indeed, WSH, I couldn't agree more and I definitely share your feelings towards the '07 SL.
I know it'll probably have no effect, but I'm going to write a (snail mail) letter to MBUSA. I've got their mailing address from MBUSA.com, but is there anyone else that I can write to directly? You can PM me privately if you prefer.
I will, of course, post any results or return correspondence that I get, for everyone's benefit.
I know it'll probably have no effect, but I'm going to write a (snail mail) letter to MBUSA. I've got their mailing address from MBUSA.com, but is there anyone else that I can write to directly? You can PM me privately if you prefer.
I will, of course, post any results or return correspondence that I get, for everyone's benefit.
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Originally Posted by WSH
'07 SL65/55 has paddles and leather steering wheel, but can't get over how ancient the SL's interior finishes/ergonomics/infotainment/airbag systems/headlight systems, etc are vs new-gen S/CL.....
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Right on target! I was going to try an SL while I spent time developing an affinity for the new S, but after a few hours in the new SL, I was amazed how dated the car seemed. I just ordered the new CL and feel comfortable that I made the right decision.
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Paddles in S65?
Originally Posted by absent
Just looked at '07 S65 at Autohaus in Northbrook and was shocked to see it had the same stupid shift buttons on the back of the wheel.
What happened to the paddles???
Official pics on MBUSA site show them prominently.
What's up????
What happened to the paddles???
Official pics on MBUSA site show them prominently.
What's up????
Hope I've thrown some light on the issue.
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Originally Posted by isaacu
In Europe, if you want the paddles you will have to stick with the standard all leather steering wheel. Because, once you choose the extra-cost wood trim/leather wheel (even if designo trim wood) you loose the paddles. Must be something to do with the steering column.
Hope I've thrown some light on the issue.
Hope I've thrown some light on the issue.
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Originally Posted by prsmith777
Problem is... this photo is also on MBUSA for 2007 S65. Something is not right here. You can definitely see the paddles on this pic.
Sir, wooden trim in your picture has almost certainly been "air-brushed" in!
European price list:
Code 289 - Wood/leather steering wheel - S65: discontinuation (read: "cannot have") of AMG sports steering wheel with silver-coloured aluminium shift paddles.
You can have the wood/leather combo but you wont retain the paddles. Surely we are allowed 'to have our cake and eat it'? What is MB going to do about this?
Hope this helps.
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Oh yes!
Originally Posted by isaacu
Sir, wooden trim in your picture has almost certainly been "air-brushed" in!
European price list:
Code 289 - Wood/leather steering wheel - S65: discontinuation (read: "cannot have") of AMG sports steering wheel with silver-coloured aluminium shift paddles.
You can have the wood/leather combo but you wont retain the paddles. Surely we are allowed 'to have our cake and eat it'? What is MB going to do about this?
Hope this helps.
Isaacu
European price list:
Code 289 - Wood/leather steering wheel - S65: discontinuation (read: "cannot have") of AMG sports steering wheel with silver-coloured aluminium shift paddles.
You can have the wood/leather combo but you wont retain the paddles. Surely we are allowed 'to have our cake and eat it'? What is MB going to do about this?
Hope this helps.
Isaacu
Therefore, it appears that whoever chose the specifications for these initial orders decided that they wanted wood/leather steering wheels and possibly didn't know that they would lose the AMG sports steering wheel with the aluminium paddles.
By the way the AMG sports steering wheel is only available in leather, not wood/leather, and it is the standard fitment for S65s. Another difference with the wood/leather steering wheel is that the AMG one doesn't have the leather stitched airbag section.
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Originally Posted by GMW
You are correct! In the European pricelist if you choose code 289 (Wood/leather steering wheel) then there is a note for the S65 saying Discontinuation of AMG sports steering wheel with silver-coloured aluminium shift paddles!
Therefore, it appears that whoever chose the specifications for these initial orders decided that they wanted wood/leather steering wheels and possibly didn't know that they would lose the AMG sports steering wheel with the aluminium paddles.
By the way the AMG sports steering wheel is only available in leather, not wood/leather, and it is the standard fitment for S65s. Another difference with the wood/leather steering wheel is that the AMG one doesn't have the leather stitched airbag section.
Therefore, it appears that whoever chose the specifications for these initial orders decided that they wanted wood/leather steering wheels and possibly didn't know that they would lose the AMG sports steering wheel with the aluminium paddles.
By the way the AMG sports steering wheel is only available in leather, not wood/leather, and it is the standard fitment for S65s. Another difference with the wood/leather steering wheel is that the AMG one doesn't have the leather stitched airbag section.
I'm still baffled that MBUSA would allow their flagship car to be sold like that, while E63 and CLS63 owners are happily enjoying their paddles.
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Originally Posted by GMW
You are correct! In the European pricelist if you choose code 289 (Wood/leather steering wheel) then there is a note for the S65 saying Discontinuation of AMG sports steering wheel with silver-coloured aluminium shift paddles!
Therefore, it appears that whoever chose the specifications for these initial orders decided that they wanted wood/leather steering wheels and possibly didn't know that they would lose the AMG sports steering wheel with the aluminium paddles.
By the way the AMG sports steering wheel is only available in leather, not wood/leather, and it is the standard fitment for S65s. Another difference with the wood/leather steering wheel is that the AMG one doesn't have the leather stitched airbag section.
Therefore, it appears that whoever chose the specifications for these initial orders decided that they wanted wood/leather steering wheels and possibly didn't know that they would lose the AMG sports steering wheel with the aluminium paddles.
By the way the AMG sports steering wheel is only available in leather, not wood/leather, and it is the standard fitment for S65s. Another difference with the wood/leather steering wheel is that the AMG one doesn't have the leather stitched airbag section.
So which pic is the right one?
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Originally Posted by AsianML
From what I've read, no paddle shifters, at least with the wood steering wheel. I think. I may have read the info wrong.
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I have nothing but issues with MBUSA --
That's why I have to pay out the exhaust valve to get my USA AMG MBZ's done-up right (you could say 'corrected' as easily as 'modified' in this instance) at AMG in Germany, post-ordered here in the USA, before bringing them home here to the States for use .
MBUSA sucks.
That's why I have to pay out the exhaust valve to get my USA AMG MBZ's done-up right (you could say 'corrected' as easily as 'modified' in this instance) at AMG in Germany, post-ordered here in the USA, before bringing them home here to the States for use
.MBUSA sucks.
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Originally Posted by AsianML
From what I've read, no paddle shifters, at least with the wood steering wheel. I think. I may have read the info wrong.
That is correct! The Wood/leather steering wheel does not have the aluminium shift paddles! Has anyone asked their dealer to talk to MBUSA and get an S65 ordered without the wood/leather steering wheel? That way they get the standard AMG sports steering wheel with the paddles!
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is it my imagination, or have the MB steering wheels gotten uglier and uglier the past few yrs. even the new ones above look pretty darn ugly to me. i think the 2 bottom spokes remind me of the same shapes that chrysler uses in their $25k sedans. i don't care if chrysler benefits from MB stuff, but MB should not be taking styling cues from chrysler.
