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Old 11-26-2006, 06:01 PM
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Dont forget to add the new EVO magazine test of the Merc S65 to your collection. With the performance numbers it clocked, it will have Lambo owners running for the hills.

0-60mph=5.1
0-100mph= 10.6
0-150mph in 25.9

1/4 13.2 @ 112
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Thats it? An M3 can do that. Lambo owners will be running nowhere.
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This is not a kill story, if you want to post general info put it in the general forum or the S65. Since this is obviously a personal post to an individual maybe you should send a PM of your findings to Improviz.

Rerouting to S65 forum.
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I think the test was done incorrectly.
This is one of those things where the numbers just don't correlate correctly.

Think about it...
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Originally Posted by vraa
I think the test was done incorrectly.
This is one of those things where the numbers just don't correlate correctly.

Think about it...
Incorrectly? They strapped the same recording equipment to it, as they do other cars. makes sense to me.
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Incorrectly? They strapped the same recording equipment to it, as they do other cars. makes sense to me.
Do you drive your Diablo on the gas the same way you drive your H2?
I'm just saying, if you want to squeeze out the best times there are correct and incorrect ways to do it for each and every car.
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MB states 4.2 seconds for 0-60 for S65AMG
4.6 seconds for 0-60 for S600
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Dont forget to add the new EVO magazine test of the Merc S65 to your collection. With the performance numbers it clocked, it will have Lambo owners running for the hills.

0-60mph=5.1
0-100mph= 10.6
0-150mph in 25.9

1/4 13.2 @ 112
If you are going to pick and choose test results,how about that one :Motorweek test of Gallardo , 0-60 in 5.3s.
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Originally Posted by absent
If you are going to pick and choose test results,how about that one :Motorweek test of Gallardo , 0-60 in 5.3s.
Sounds good! Those cars should be a good race!
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Groan....

Allenlambo, where are your strip results? Last time you were here, you were trying to convince us all that you'd gone to all of the trouble to take your Lambo to the strip, wait in line for three hours, and then let off the gas at the end of your run, which explained your 113 mph trap.

This was over a month ago.

So why haven't you taken it back and hit the 122 mph trap speed you told us it was capable of??

Why don't you quit talking **** and get a video and slip? What's the holdup? Where's the beef?

You accuse people who post magazine results as "magazine racers", and yet here you are, doing exactly that--strange when, given that you own the car, you could prove all of us naysayers wrong in about 13 seconds or so.

Anyway, there you go again, cherry picking tests. So EVO ran a 13.2 @ 112 in an S65? Wow...that's 3 mph faster than Motor Trend trapped in the Gallardo, and the S65 you cited was a full second faster to 100 than Motor Trend got in the Gallardo:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html
0-60: 4.7 seconds 0-100: 11.0 seconds 1/4: 13.08 @ 109.89

Or, as someone else pointed out, we could look at Motorweek's test of the 2005 Gallardo:
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2426.shtml
0-60 mph 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile 13.3 seconds @ 109 mph

Of course, as you typically do, you ignore the other facts I presented, such as the fact that the new S600 has already been tested by Car & Driver, here:

This S600 ran 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, 0-100 in 9.7, and the 1/4 in 12.6 @ 115, which makes it rather difficult to believe that the S65, with 100 more horsepower, is somehow going to lose a half second and 3 mph. But maybe that's the way physics works in allenlambonutsoland: give a car 100 more horsepower, and it slows down!

As to the S65 AMG: as I pointed out to you before, Swedish Auto Motor und Sport tested an S65 (and a Porsche GT3, and an Audi S4):
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...6/041606c.html
S65 911 S4
AMG GT3
50 km/h 1,93 2,03 2,1
100 km/h 4,28 5,00 6,06
150 km/h 7,91 9,33 12,31
200 km/h 13,22 15,68 21,89

Also, Autocar tested one and ran a standing-start Km at 22 flat @ 155 mph:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/FirstDrive_....asp?RT=210425

But again (seems like I keep askign this, and you keep not doing it): why don't you simply get to a strip, run a 122+ trap speed, and get us a video of your modded Lambo trapping 122+ mph?

So far:

1) you took your modified Lambo to a strip and trapped a whopping 113 mph;

2) you made lameass "dog ate my homework" excuses about this trap speed;

3) you vanished, and came back sans slip or video, to start this lameass thread.

Come on, man...stop wasting everyone's time with silly flamebait!! Get yer *** to a strip, and show us a video of you picking up that 9 mph in trap speed you left laying on the table last time!


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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Dont forget to add the new EVO magazine test of the Merc S65 to your collection. With the performance numbers it clocked, it will have Lambo owners running for the hills.

0-60mph=5.1
0-100mph= 10.6
0-150mph in 25.9

1/4 13.2 @ 112
Hmm, those figures seem far below what S65's have been clocking in all other tests. Any other variables? Maybe rain or a wet road? I remember the CCR being almost a second slower on a EVO test because of wet roads.
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Originally Posted by Improviz
Allenlambo, where are your strip results? Last time you were here, you were trying to convince us all that you'd gone to all of the trouble to take your Lambo to the strip, wait in line for three hours, and then let off the gas at the end of your run, which explained your 113 mph trap.

This was over a month ago.

So why haven't you taken it back and hit the 122 mph trap speed you told us it was capable of??

Why don't you quit talking **** and get a video and slip? What's the holdup? Where's the beef?

You accuse people who post magazine results as "magazine racers", and yet here you are, doing exactly that--strange when, given that you own the car, you could prove all of us naysayers wrong in about 13 seconds or so.

Anyway, there you go again, cherry picking tests. So EVO ran a 13.2 @ 112 in an S65? Wow...that's 3 mph faster than Motor Trend trapped in the Gallardo, and the S65 you cited was a full second faster to 100 than Motor Trend got in the Gallardo:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html
0-60: 4.7 seconds 0-100: 11.0 seconds 1/4: 13.08 @ 109.89

Or, as someone else pointed out, we could look at Motorweek's test of the 2005 Gallardo:
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2426.shtml
0-60 mph 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile 13.3 seconds @ 109 mph

Of course, as you typically do, you ignore the other facts I presented, such as the fact that the new S600 has already been tested by Car & Driver, here:

This S600 ran 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, 0-100 in 9.7, and the 1/4 in 12.6 @ 115, which makes it rather difficult to believe that the S65, with 100 more horsepower, is somehow going to lose a half second and 3 mph. But maybe that's the way physics works in allenlambonutsoland: give a car 100 more horsepower, and it slows down!

As to the S65 AMG: as I pointed out to you before, Swedish Auto Motor und Sport tested an S65 (and a Porsche GT3, and an Audi S4):
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...6/041606c.html
S65 911 S4
AMG GT3
50 km/h 1,93 2,03 2,1
100 km/h 4,28 5,00 6,06
150 km/h 7,91 9,33 12,31
200 km/h 13,22 15,68 21,89

Also, Autocar tested one and ran a standing-start Km at 22 flat @ 155 mph:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/FirstDrive_....asp?RT=210425

But again (seems like I keep askign this, and you keep not doing it): why don't you simply get to a strip, run a 122+ trap speed, and get us a video of your modded Lambo trapping 122+ mph?

So far:

1) you took your modified Lambo to a strip and trapped a whopping 113 mph;

2) you made lameass "dog ate my homework" excuses about this trap speed;

3) you vanished, and came back sans slip or video, to start this lameass thread.

Come on, man...stop wasting everyone's time with silly flamebait!! Get yer *** to a strip, and show us a video of you picking up that 9 mph in trap speed you left laying on the table last time!

Actually, Ive done 2 more passes at the strip. My 2nd was 12.70 @115, my 3rd 12.50@ 113.x. but I did find something out, according to the drag racers out that day, our cars in AZ will never run what cars in other parts of the country run due to the DA level. The day at the track is talked about here:

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103840

From the drag racers:

"BTW, I found a weather station in Wittman and did a recalc of the DA!! 4975ft @1.00PM"

Magazine tests are all corrected for this info.

Here is a calculator to factor in the DA:
http://www.modulardepot.com/density.php

And here is my run with the 06 Z06:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nINtF6m4Yns

Now Ill let you figure out what my mph would be.

And here is video of my G against the Z06 from a high speed roll on with the Z06, which as we all know, a Z06 will KILL an S65. This is going from approx 70-140-145mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nINtF6m4Yns


So how is that 2001 Amg going for you these days? WHO is it that YOU have raced? Have you purchased alot of magazines lately?
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Has anybody forgotten that the S65 is a FOUR DOOR SEDAN!?
This is hilariously great.
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Has anybody forgotten that the S65 is a FOUR DOOR SEDAN!?
This is hilariously great.
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allanlambo, you owe me about one minute, this has to be the most retarded, ridiculous, pointless thread ever.
i ve driven a gallardo (took it up to 150) and it felt barely faster than my moms e55, ive also been in a sl65 and it felt much faster than the e55.

stop arguing with facts, are you ****in stupid?
is it really that bad that a huge 4 door sedan can smoke your sports car?
a moded evo can rape me in a straight line and the corners for half of what my car is worth, so what, who gives a ****. i know im enjoying driving my car more than he is.

**** that one minute you owe me, just answer this for me: what the **** is wrong w/ you?
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Ah, allenlambo, I really gotta hand it to ya, man...

...you just shot yourself in the foot, and very thoughtfully gave me the ammo to do it.

Went to NWS. No weather station at Wittmann on their maps. If you've got a link to it, let's see it. Altitude is 1280 ft. from the page you linked to (the "look up race tracks" link at the bottom).

I went and checked the temps for that day for Phoenix. Phoenix, which is at a lower altitude, had a high of 88 degrees.

At 4PM.

But your message says 1PM.

At which time the temp was more like 85. Humidity was at 9% at noon, so I just used that.

According to the Z06 forum link you gave, you ran a 12.588 (this is a 12.6 if you're rounding, allen, not a 12.5 ) at 113.207

This, corrected, comes out to a 12.09 @ 117.65 .

Which does show that your modifications made your Gallardo faster.

Unfortunately, you might recall the following. I showed it to you before, in this post. It is our own rogerv's timeslip in his bone stock S65 AMG:


And I must also thank you for providing me with the handy-dandy DA calculator. Becuase, you see, Infineon Raceway, where rogerv ran his car, has a DA too!

And when I plug the numbers in for rogerv's run using the conditions on his timeslip, I come up with a DA-corrected time of:

11.59 @ 122.61

Got that? No? Let me make it a little larger:

11.59 @ 122.61

Still having trouble? Let me make it just a little larger so it chokes you a bit more on the way down:

11.59 @ 122.61



Beeyutch, I just OWNED you.










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Someone was trying to make a point...

S 65...4 door saloon that's about it i guess. It's bloody fast and it'll come down to drivers+ theories are one thing, reality is a whole new thing!
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Originally Posted by Improviz
...you just shot yourself in the foot, and very thoughtfully gave me the ammo to do it.

Went to NWS. No weather station at Wittmann on their maps. If you've got a link to it, let's see it. Altitude is 1280 ft. from the page you linked to (the "look up race tracks" link at the bottom).

I went and checked the temps for that day for Phoenix. Phoenix, which is at a lower altitude, had a high of 88 degrees.

At 4PM.

But your message says 1PM.

At which time the temp was more like 85. Humidity was at 9% at noon, so I just used that.

According to the Z06 forum link you gave, you ran a 12.588 (this is a 12.6 if you're rounding, allen, not a 12.5 ) at 113.207

This, corrected, comes out to a 12.09 @ 117.65 .

Which does show that your modifications made your Gallardo faster.

Unfortunately, you might recall the following. I showed it to you before, in this post. It is our own rogerv's timeslip in his bone stock S65 AMG:


And I must also thank you for providing me with the handy-dandy DA calculator. Becuase, you see, Infineon Raceway, where rogerv ran his car, has a DA too!

And when I plug the numbers in for rogerv's run using the conditions on his timeslip, I come up with a DA-corrected time of:

11.59 @ 122.61

Got that? No? Let me make it a little larger:

11.59 @ 122.61

Still having trouble? Let me make it just a little larger so it chokes you a bit more on the way down:

11.59 @ 122.61



Beeyutch, I just OWNED you.











Sorry buddy, but the temp was over 90 degrees when we were running, and there is more to DA than that. Anyway, as I have shown, a Z06 pulls just over 1 car length on me. People have been known to run as high as 129 mph in those cars stock. Those cars will RUIN an S65, Sl65 etc. At the track, another C6 Z06 could only run 116mph, putting it also in line with the C6 I raced. So far Ive done a total of 3 runs in my car, and each has gotten substantialy faster. Owners of modified Renntech Benz's who have seen my car, raced it, raced other cars such as an Sl65 have a agreed, my car will pull an Sl65 let alone a S65.

And as for ownage, anyone driving a 2001 Amg, owns no one. You are owned by just about every single 2006 Camry driving grandmother out there.


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