Bilal

As you know, we will be waiting anxiously for good quality acceleration videos of your S63 Up to the limiter if possible so we can compare with the S65 videos on youtube.

kip

Id still go for the S600, more torque and a wonderful v12 + the car is really underrated...

xlr8tin

I have a quick question...are the S55 faster than the W211 E55?

JRAMGV8

I think about the same... 4.6secs 0-60mph

JRAMGV8

Speaking of S55 I saw one on the MBUSA website in San Jose Dealership S55 2004 for $59K.... hmmm see if I can negotiate with them to bring it down to $55k. I don't want to pay over $700mo for it unless I put some serious down $$$ for it.

MercPlease

I LOVED my S55. I really recommend it.

JRAMGV8

I love the sound of the exhaust on those vehicle. Has a nice rumble tone to it.

xlr8tin

Close...but W211 is 4.3 sec. but I know the S55 has more HP. I've been wanting one of these two cars for awhile and can't really decide yet.

newton22

Does the S55 really have more hp? I thought Mercedes rated the E55 at 469 hp because of marketing purposes. The E55 makes closer to 490-500.

kip

Nope!

Mercedes S 600 L W220 - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 12
Hubraum 5513 ccm
Aufladung BiTurbo
PS - UMin 500 PS - 5000/Min
Nm - UMin 800 Nm - 1800/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in ams 04/2003
Gewicht 2126 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,5 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,8 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 15,0 s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 37,5 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 37,8 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs - min
Querbeschleunigung - g
Slalom 18 m 59,2 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 130,7 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges -/-/17,0 L/SB
Grundpreis 126.556 Euro (2003)
Testwagenpreis - Euro

Mercedes E55 AMG - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5439 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 476 PS - 6100/Min
Nm - UMin 700 Nm - 2650/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 38,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38,3 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.18,0 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,05 g
Slalom 18 m 61,5 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch 20,5 L/SB
Testwagenpreis 99.476 Euro

xlr8tin

These are number for the S600.

xlr8tin

This I don't know, but since they are so close in times, it must be that the
S55 has more HP to make up for the weight difference, and thus making it so close.

JRAMGV8

That's how I am now... can't decide!!!!

xlr8tin

Well, if you ever choose one let me know which one.

JRAMGV8

I will , today I'm going to check out the one they have in San Jose, CA. They're asking $59K, 47K Miles S55 2004. Thinking of if they can bring it down to $55K.... ah we'll see.

whoover

Good luck with the S55. One piece of advice: strongly consider extending the CPO warranty to three years (from the one that it comes with). Let's say the car was delivered 12/12/2003 . The standard CPO warranty will expire on 12/12/2008. That year will go by very quickly. An extension to 12/12/2010 (still 100K miles) will cost an additional $4,000 (retail). You have to purchase the extension when you purchase the Starmark car.

Since the dealer makes a profit on the warranty extension, they have room to negotiate with it. Include it in your discussions. That $4K can pay dividends many times over.

whoover

PS. I've bought seven cars from Smythe. If you need any advice about the process, PM me.

JRAMGV8

Hey Whoover..

I completely agree with you!!!! Those extended warranty will eventually help out.

JRAMGV8

Thanks...

kerno

Newbie here........

But by no means new to speed or Benz hardware. One of the other great things about the S55 is the braking. It is astounding how fast the brakes will bring that much mass to a stop.

The car is really a strange creature. It has the performance and manners of a car about half its weight, yet can be tossed around or have the rear tires melted with ease. I've owned a lot of fast things in my life, but this one has really grown on me. I looked at the 600s as well, but there is simply too much heat generating hardware packed in too small a space. Their service history has not been much to talk about as a result.

There's been some discussion about the acceleration from freeway speeds. I've had an interesting "problem" with mine. We all have become accustomed to climbing into the throttle a few seconds before you are actually ready to pull out and pass. The S55 will teach you not to do that because you come close to rear ending the car you'd intended to pass. It is a car that can make you grin and still take everyone to dinner in style. I also am pleased with the mileage. The only downside is that it is a car that needs a warranty.

LowTech

So true. I've been trying to make comparisons to 7's I've owned (745, 750, 760) w/ and w/o Dinan. The 63 is clearly a better all-around mix. I'm very partial to naturally aspirated motors, so it was enjoyable to compare. "Strange creature" is an apt description in a good way!

Regarding accelerating at highway speed: I friend of mine was driving my 63 (He's used to driving a 6-cyl X5). He was looking to pass left and glancing in the mirror while accelerating... We would have ended up underneath the rear tandem of a 53' trailer had I not "gently" redirected his attention. The speed burst crept up on him!!!

Overall, after 750 miles, every bit fun as an old M5 I had, maybe better for my present driving preferences.

kip

OOPS! But they are very compareable, but the 600 is slightly faster in all tests. If you look at the following feg.

Mercedes SL 55 AMG - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5439 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 500 PS - 6000/Min
Nm - UMin 700 Nm - 2650/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in sport auto 4/2003
Gewicht 1988 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,4 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,0 s
0 - 140 km/h 7,8 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 11,9 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,3 s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 37,7 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 36,0 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.15,9 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,15 g
Slalom 18 m 62,7 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch 17,8 L/SB
Testwagenpreis 158.444 Euro

Mercedes SL 600 - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 12
Hubraum 5513 ccm
Aufladung Biturbo
PS - UMin 500 PS - 5000/Min
Nm - UMin 800 Nm - 1800/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in sport auto 4/2003
Gewicht 2001 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,5 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 11,4 s
0 - 200 km/h 13,9 s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 36,3 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38,3 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.17,6 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,05 g
Slalom 18 m 61,0 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch 18,2 L/SP
Testwagenpreis 161.431 Euro

xlr8tin

No big deal...Yea, I wouldn't mind the big V12. But not the price that comes with it though. I would really love to have the S65 AMG

moeaboelela

I know this might be a stupid question...but what do you guys think?