Any info on 2011 S63?
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Any info on 2011 S63?
I understand the 2011 S63 will have a more powerful engine then the current model? Anyone know the specs? Im upset if its significant, as I just purchased an S63 less then one month back
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Don't be upset... there is no where to use that extra power besides the track... and who knows if that extra torque is actually put to the ground or just melting the rear rubber.
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Hopefully the new S63 engine in twin turbo form will alleviate the lack of torque that currently exists in the daily driving range of 2000 to 3000 rpms. The current S63 (6.2) is an incredible engine, but more suitable for higher rpm driving, 4000 rpms+. As for "who knows if that extra torque is actually put to the ground....", I don't think that will be a problem.
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Perf cars are much like iPhones/iPads/Blkberries: every 6-12mos some new tech or signif debugging is released....can wait to end of a ~3yr product cycle for cheaper prices and more debugged tech but likely have less innovative tech and perf (esp drivetrain and chassis)
Suspect with advances in computing power and increased software density, perf car product cycles will speed up, perhaps not styling changes but much optically invisible but dynamically obvious tech advances and refinements
But latest-tech cars often entail paying closer to MSRP and face higher risks of bugs/lemons esp with new motors, gearboxes
Tq is one of most daily-enjoyed aspects of any perf car esp in commuting on fast urban fwys: old 63 was obviously undertq'd vs major SiliconValley fwys, some of world's most tq-intensive: new 63 should be fine unless it has any turbo lag issues, not likely given how 65 seamlessly delivers its tq, even w/old-tech turbos
In my expce, latest CL65s have brilliant tq/traction balance even on very wet roads; AMG tweaked 65 throttle response in MY09 to improve traction; in contrast, '07 SL65 had awful traction even on dry, uneven rds...prob due to old-tech throttle software and short wheelbase
Suspect with advances in computing power and increased software density, perf car product cycles will speed up, perhaps not styling changes but much optically invisible but dynamically obvious tech advances and refinements
But latest-tech cars often entail paying closer to MSRP and face higher risks of bugs/lemons esp with new motors, gearboxes
Tq is one of most daily-enjoyed aspects of any perf car esp in commuting on fast urban fwys: old 63 was obviously undertq'd vs major SiliconValley fwys, some of world's most tq-intensive: new 63 should be fine unless it has any turbo lag issues, not likely given how 65 seamlessly delivers its tq, even w/old-tech turbos
In my expce, latest CL65s have brilliant tq/traction balance even on very wet roads; AMG tweaked 65 throttle response in MY09 to improve traction; in contrast, '07 SL65 had awful traction even on dry, uneven rds...prob due to old-tech throttle software and short wheelbase
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I test drove a '07 S65 and my '08 S63 before purchasing the S63. The power difference was not noticeable on the short 5-6 mile test drive I took. I am sure it would have been noticeable if I had a wide open road, but with today's traffic and speed laws.. it did not allow me the chance to really push the two to the limit. The S63 sounded meaner, was cheaper, and carried a CPO warranty... it was a no brainer for me.. it is my wife's car and if I crave power/handling I can hop into my Z06.
If anything, I hope they can keep the sound of the current 6.2 liter in the upcoming 5.5 liter TT.
If anything, I hope they can keep the sound of the current 6.2 liter in the upcoming 5.5 liter TT.
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It's a fairly sized change in the engine, but the current S63 is still a fantastic car and very fast for its size. I doubt in day to day driving, even if pushing it, you'd notice such a difference between the 2010 and 2011 that would make you lose sleep. A difference, there is - but it's still not night and day imho. Perhaps when they start pumping out over 600hp for the 63's and even more torque, then it's different.
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It's a fairly sized change in the engine, but the current S63 is still a fantastic car and very fast for its size. I doubt in day to day driving, even if pushing it, you'd notice such a difference between the 2010 and 2011 that would make you lose sleep. A difference, there is - but it's still not night and day imho. Perhaps when they start pumping out over 600hp for the 63's and even more torque, then it's different.
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I test drove a '07 S65 and my '08 S63 before purchasing the S63. The power difference was not noticeable on the short 5-6 mile test drive I took. I am sure it would have been noticeable if I had a wide open road, but with today's traffic and speed laws.. it did not allow me the chance to really push the two to the limit. The S63 sounded meaner, was cheaper, and carried a CPO warranty... it was a no brainer for me.. it is my wife's car and if I crave power/handling I can hop into my Z06.
If anything, I hope they can keep the sound of the current 6.2 liter in the upcoming 5.5 liter TT.
If anything, I hope they can keep the sound of the current 6.2 liter in the upcoming 5.5 liter TT.
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Just because there a speed limits/laws doesn't mean you can't enjoy your car. You just have to be smart about how to do it. In the USA, no one actually needs a car that does more than 100 mph, as there are now no longer any roads with a speed limit above 80 mph or has 200+hp, yet there are plenty of auto manufactures producing cars that not only have 200 mph speedometers and above, but are capable of maintaining speeds near or above 200 mph. And I realize that "traffic" is relative but there isn't much traffic near Virginia Beach... Maybe during rush hour, but that's it... There are plenty of opportunities to utilize the power of an S65 if you are smart about it and none of them involve a track...