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Preowned 2018 S63 Cabriolet being delivered to me today!

Old Feb 6, 2020 | 10:04 AM
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Preowned 2018 S63 Cabriolet being delivered to me today!

I'm pretty excited about the new car! I'm always excited about new cars but this is my first Benz. I've had German cars in the past but this is my first Mercedes and so it's even that much more special. I was waiting around for a couple years for the Porsche Taycan, but that car ended up having too many compromises for me and was quite expensive fully equipped. Fortunately came across the idea of a lightly used S63 Cabriolet and really liked the idea of returning to a convertible (had an E93 M3 some time ago). Well, it's being delivered today! Here is a pic of it leaving California:




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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 10:25 AM
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Wow. Congrats to you. If someone asked me what the perfect s63 would be I would describe it as silver with a light interior and blue cabrio top. No word of a lie, my dream car and combo. I’m jealous. Enjoy in good health.
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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Nice Ride... are you tall ? at 6-2 I could not get comfortable ?
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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Nice car! Way better then e9x M3 you had in the past (I used to have e90 M3 that turned up to be a compromise from multiple perspectives)
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmotoguzzi00
Nice Ride... are you tall ? at 6-2 I could not get comfortable ?
Really ? Have you exhausted all the seat adjustments ?
Maybe the cabriolet is different bu I'm 6'2" and a lean 200lbs, and and the Coupe is the most comfortable car out there for me.

@AlphaG congrats !
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 02:38 PM
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I spent a good 5 minutes trying to adjust the seat Once I had the lower cushion back far enough it would automatically tilt the seat back forward cause it hit the rear seats....... played that game for a bit then decided just wasn't for me... I do have long legs even for a guy at 6-2... been blaming it on that...
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmotoguzzi00
I spent a good 5 minutes trying to adjust the seat Once I had the lower cushion back far enough it would automatically tilt the seat back forward cause it hit the rear seats....... played that game for a bit then decided just wasn't for me... I do have long legs even for a guy at 6-2... been blaming it on that...
I'm 6-3 and fit OK. Headroom is reduced but not not impacting. My more pressing challenge with most of the recent cars is the steering wheel position as I would have preferred it to be extended further for the best hand placement. S63 is not perfect but better compared to M5.
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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Thanks everyone!

I’m not particularly tall at 5’11” so should not be a problem for me. Delivery delayed until the morning, unfortunately, but still very excited about my first Benz! This is definitely a classier color scheme than my old M3 which had a Superman color scheme, blue on red. Still, I loved that car. If only the dealer in town was the least bit competent regarding service.

Anyway, I have learned to wrench on my own cars when it suits me. Still learning the complexities of DIY on modern Merc’s, but hopefully I can do some stuff. I do have a two post lift in the man cave to make my life easier!

I’m guessing brakes will need some servicing in 10-15k miles (car has around 8k miles), so I will have to decide between converting to carbon ceramic for longevity or paying the seemingly exorbitant prices for a set of steel rotors and pads. I wouldn’t track a heavy cabriolet.

Anyway, I’m getting well ahead of myself! Want to just enjoy the car for a while before making serious repair/maintenance decisions!
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Nice Ride... are you tall ? at 6-2 I could not get comfortable ?
I am 6'5" in my 2019 S560 Cabriolet and have no problems getting in and out or being comfortable while driving. Visibility is fine, too. Granted, no human can sit behind me, but the seats and steering column are very nicely adjustable for tall people IMHO! For me, though, a head-up display is important because at my height, the comfortable steering wheel position blocks my view of the driver instrument display. Head-up display solves that completely.
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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guess it's just me Don't mean to take away from your ride, it's beautiful
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 08:27 PM
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Congrats on the coupe. although if this is your first Benz you've gone and ruined your growth path.
It doesn't get much sweeter than this beauty.
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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You shouldn't have to wrench much if at all. Even my 2015 (first model year, 2nd if you include the sedan) was bullet proof reliable. Only needed the "auxiliary battery" replaced after almost 5 years, and it was a small capacitor bank that would have been easy to do myself had the dealer been forthcoming about it; they told me it was a heavy lead-acid battery buried behind electrical panels and very difficult to access, which is simply not the case.

I do think the steel brakes are a relative weakness on these heavy cars, particularly the 2018+ which are way more aggressive in S+/Race modes than the earlier cars. I had steel brakes on my 2015 and they produced prodigious dust, even after replacing the pads with Porterfield low dust pads. Went with the ceramics on my 2020 and they are fantastic - a little more grippy but no noise and zero dust, and I have much more confidence in their stopping power. And they'll never wear out with street use... for suburban/urban driving, like here in Scottsdale where there are traffic lights everywhere, you're lucky to get 30,000 mi on the steel brakes. And most if not all dealers will force you to replace the rotors and pads, rather than just pads with rotor resurfacing.

CCBs are a costly retrofit but nice thing about buying one of these pre-owned is you get the car a a big discount which makes it easier to put some $ into it, and if you put enough miles on the car they'll eventually pay for themselves. And unlike many other options CCBs will increase the resale value as they are probably the most rare option on the C217/A217, including the S65 which had other costly upgrades like the 3D Burmester as standard equipment.

Not sure why anyone would track a nearly 5,000 lb car - but those who do on any regular basis would be best advised to have steel brakes as they are much cheaper to replace when worn. Advantage of ceramics for track use is resistance to fade more than longevity - I know many 720S owners who track their cars regularly have converted to steel brakes since the ceramics wear down quickly and replacement parts are extraordinarily expensive.
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 01:50 PM
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Sage advice H, thanks. If I went with ceramics I might go with an aftermarket kit such as is available from Racing Brakes:

https://www.racingbrake.com/ProductD...Code=MB-CRK-04

Still, at nearly $13K that would be a heck-of-a DIY brake service! We will see. I will wear out the factory steel first! I would definitely order the ceramics with the car if using new. The upgrade cost for genuine AMG CCB is a bargain! I’ve seen around $20K for AMG CCB if adding on after the fact!
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 02:30 PM
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Woah, that's one hell of a spec! Does the interior have blue contrast as well?
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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Woah, that's one hell of a spec! Does the interior have blue contrast as well?
Yes, the deep sea blue interior option. The blue is very dark, almost black.
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 09:02 PM
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Sage advice H, thanks. If I went with ceramics I might go with an aftermarket kit such as is available from Racing Brakes:

https://www.racingbrake.com/ProductD...Code=MB-CRK-04

Still, at nearly $13K that would be a heck-of-a DIY brake service! We will see. I will wear out the factory steel first! I would definitely order the ceramics with the car if using new. The upgrade cost for genuine AMG CCB is a bargain! I’ve seen around $20K for AMG CCB if adding on after the fact!
First, enjoy your ride in good health, and seriously consider the CCB’s. It is a handsome car indeed, and you'd get a totally different and far better driving experience with CCBs (and save a fortune longer term).

Note that the dealer would still need to reprogram your coupe for use with CCB’s. You don’t just install them. They will not operate correctly. Install wise, it takes an expert a few days to install (i.e. someone who has done it before and knows the drill). It's a job that's easy to screw up and damage the expensive parts. YMMV but think it over before doing it. Your life will be riding on these breaks.

Finally, if you don’t use a dealership (at least for the reprograming), the CCB’s won’t show under your VIN, and won't be covered under warranty. That is done by MBUSA when you retrofit at a MB dealer. They reprogram and register the upgrade (2 different steps).

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Old Feb 19, 2020 | 01:23 PM
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Congratulations on your sweet new wheels! You're in for a lot of fun!
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 10:34 AM
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beautiful enjoy the new ride
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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First, enjoy your ride in good health, and seriously consider the CCB’s. It is a handsome car indeed, and you'd get a totally different and far better driving experience with CCBs (and save a fortune longer term).

Note that the dealer would still need to reprogram your coupe for use with CCB’s. You don’t just install them. They will not operate correctly. Install wise, it takes an expert a few days to install (i.e. someone who has done it before and knows the drill). It's a job that's easy to screw up and damage the expensive parts. YMMV but think it over before doing it. Your life will be riding on these breaks.

Finally, if you don’t use a dealership (at least for the reprograming), the CCB’s won’t show under your VIN, and won't be covered under warranty. That is done by MBUSA when you retrofit at a MB dealer. They reprogram and register the upgrade (2 different steps).
Not True.

Hundreds of car enthusiasts (Camaro 1LE, GTR R35, Porsche 991, Ferrari F430, Corvette Z06, BMW M3/M4, Mustang GT350, Jeep Trackhawk, Dodge Viper etc. including MB S and CLS550) have converted from factory standard iron to RB-CCB brakes w/o any issue and never had to deal with so called "reprogramming"* which is known as a "dealer scare" to warn you must bring your car to the dealers.

Not only it's witnessed by those customers, I have a CLS550 2016 which has been switched to a complete CCB brake system (rotor, caliper, pads) 2 month after deliverey, and I have been running CCB and using it to test different brake pad compounds and refurbished rotors since w/o a hitch.

At the same token there are about 1/3 of customers converting their factory CCB to RB iron rotors (mainly from track racers for the replacement cost) which we also offer but neither they had to do any "re-programming".

We are responsible to the above statement based on our real life experience and knowledge in brake technology. In addition to rotors we also offer compatible brake pads, and rotor refurbishment program which shall be released in about 2-3 month.

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Rear kit - 390x32mm CCM rotors with 4 pot caliper







Forgot to mention our CCB upgrade for Tesla which is known to be the most technologically advanced car manufacturer, customers from both Model S and Model 3 installed RB-CCB brakes w/o any issue.

RB offers the most comprehensive brake upgrades for Tesla than all the brake companies combined.
https://racingbrake.com/tesla-1/
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Not True.

Hundreds of car enthusiasts (Camaro 1LE, GTR R35, Porsche 991, Ferrari F430, Corvette Z06, BMW M3/M4, Mustang GT350, Jeep Trackhawk, Dodge Viper etc. including MB S and CLS550) have converted from factory standard iron to RB-CCB brakes w/o any issue and never had to deal with so called "reprogramming"* which is known as a "dealer scare" to warn you must bring your car to the dealers.

Not only it's witnessed by those customers, I have a CLS550 2016 which has been switched to a complete CCB brake system (rotor, caliper, pads) 2 month after deliverey, and I have been running CCB and using it to test different brake pad compounds and refurbished rotors since w/o a hitch.

At the same token there are about 1/3 of customers converting their factory CCB to RB iron rotors (mainly from track racers for the replacement cost) which we also offer but neither they had to do any "re-programming".

We are responsible to the above statement based on our real life experience and knowledge in brake technology. In addition to rotors we also offer compatible brake pads, and rotor refurbishment program which shall be released in about 2-3 month.

Warren-RB
https://racingbrake.com/carbon-ceramic-rotor/
Not true is an interesting statement. I will take it as your point of view. Your customers may take it at face value and may love your product and warranty. I am not your customer nor will I ever be.

I had done this twice on my 2 S63 coupes. I am sharing my experience as an AMG coupe owner and MB customer. I know my dealership is trustworthy. They take great care of my 3 AMGs. My cars were reprogrammed at the MB dealership, registered as upgraded by MBUSA, and they run flawlessly. So I am happy.

I don’t know who you are, what your reputation is, and frankly I don’t care as I will never be your customer. Those who are or will be can decide for themselves and do whatever they want to whatever they own. Their choice.

I will stick with my MB dealership. I know and trust them. And you are welcome to take or ignore my post as it is my point of view.

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Congrats on the beautiful purchase! Did you ever decide to switch to CCB brakes, and if so, how did you do it? I just purchased a 2017 S63 Cabriolet with 38k miles and it is due for rotors, so I am weighing whether to do it and how to do it, as opposed to changing steel rotors every 20k miles.

Also for those more in the know on MB warranty, will using alternate rotors such as Girodisc or FCP Euro cause any warranty issues at dealers? In the past it was always acceptable to use pads and rotors of personal choice, but I suspect the dealers are looking for brake job revenue most fervently these days. I would love to hear group opinion on this, and whether anyone has had good/bad experiences with Giro FCP or other rotor brands on this particular car.

Congrats again!
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I'm pretty excited about the new car! I'm always excited about new cars but this is my first Benz. I've had German cars in the past but this is my first Mercedes and so it's even that much more special. I was waiting around for a couple years for the Porsche Taycan, but that car ended up having too many compromises for me and was quite expensive fully equipped. Fortunately came across the idea of a lightly used S63 Cabriolet and really liked the idea of returning to a convertible (had an E93 M3 some time ago). Well, it's being delivered today! Here is a pic of it leaving California:


Epic ride. Enjoy in good health.
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