$7K for pads and rotors!?!?
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If you're going from regular to factory CCB brakes, do the calipers need to be replaced also or are they strictly cosmetic? Do you need to change any other parts or recode modules?
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It is my understanding that a Mercedes dealer will not sell you parts, unless your car came with those options. So if that is indeed true, you would have to go the aftermarket route and whatever company makes them for your vehicle, it should be a direct replacement. However that is something to ask them. My vehicle was optioned with them from the factory. I love them, regardless of them making noise from time to time. They are also a huge eye catcher with the sheer size of them and of course those gold calipers peaking through the black wheels. Sometimes at cars and coffee people are taking pictures of the brakes, not the car. Lol.
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any dealer. They will sell you virtually any part that is available. There may be some exceptions for very exclusive trim parts, but I'm not aware of any.
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That is great news for you. I was only basing what I have read here on this forum, not necessarily this thread. Some people have had issues with there local dealers not wanting to order parts that they are willing to purchase, due to there vehicle not being built that way. I figure money is money. Yes some dealers will not install some parts that customers provide them to install. It is entirely up to each independently owned dealership, as to what rules they enforce and to what they will and will not do. However I would think money usually does the talking. However sometimes that does not work, on occasion.
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I agree. I think the CCB look FABULOUS! AND, they produce very little dust, which in addition to great braking performance, is an added bonus! Why they don’t make them available for special order on most models is a mystery to me.
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This forum member just had the OEM AMG CCB's
installed on his 2017 C217 Coupe at the dealership -
If your SA tells you it can't be done get a new dealer -
https://mbworld.org/forums/s63-amg-4...-upgrades.html
If you read thru this thread to the install of the CCB's
the entire process is outlined...
Not just the CCB's part of this thread but the entire thread
is an extremely well written step by step of the evolution of his Coupe -
With pictures -
Done right - Thank-You Dan -
Thank-You
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This forum member just had the OEM AMG CCB's
installed on his 2017 C217 Coupe at the dealership -
If your SA tells you it can't be done get a new dealer -
https://mbworld.org/forums/s63-amg-4...-upgrades.html
If you read thru this thread to the install of the CCB's
the entire process is outlined...
Not just the CCB's part of this thread but the entire thread
is an extremely well written step by step of the evolution of his Coupe -
With pictures -
Done right - Thank-You Dan -
Thank-You
D.B.
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Don't ever think your SA knows everything
about your W222 or your C217 -
In the last 3 years...
4 forum members have asked me about
installing Swarovski headlights - their SA
and in one case the shop foreman told them
it could not be done - wrong - they are plug and play -
10 forum members have asked why the rear steel rotors
on the W222 and C217 wear faster than the fronts -
Their SA and the shop foreman said that is just the way it is -
The rear steel rotors wear faster due to Mercedes EBS system
(electronic braking system) which applies more brake at the
rear brakes to keep the car level under hard / all braking
for the W222 and C217
5 forum members have asked me about installing AMG CCB's
on their W222 and/or C217 - they were told by their SA
that it could not be done -
The SA's said the only way to get them was to check the CCB box
when doing your build sheet -
Wrong -
There have been other questions that the SA could not answer -
Your SA is most likely a good guy but may be un-informed about
certain issues -
This sub-forum and the C217 sub-forum are your best source of
correct information for these cars -
Thank-You
D.B.
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Don't ever think your SA knows everything
about your W222 or your C217 -
In the last 3 years...
4 forum members have asked me about
installing Swarovski headlights - their SA
and in one case the shop foreman told them
it could not be done - wrong - they are plug and play -
10 forum members have asked why the rear steel rotors
on the W222 and C217 wear faster than the fronts -
Their SA and the shop foreman said that is just the way it is -
The rear steel rotors wear faster due to Mercedes EBS system
(electronic braking system) which applies more brake at the
rear brakes to keep the car level under hard / all braking
for the W222 and C217
5 forum members have asked me about installing AMG CCB's
on their W222 and/or C217 - they were told by their SA
that it could not be done -
The SA's said the only way to get them was to check the CCB box
when doing your build sheet -
Wrong -
There have been other questions that the SA could not answer -
Your SA is most likely a good guy but may be un-informed about
certain issues -
This sub-forum and the C217 sub-forum are your best source of
correct information for these cars -
Thank-You
D.B.
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Great alternative to factory steel rotors or CCB. Fraction of the price, you can change the rotor rings when it’s worn out and it’s great.
https://www.girodisc.com/Rotors_c_1286.html
https://www.girodisc.com/Rotors_c_1286.html
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Great alternative to factory steel rotors or CCB. Fraction of the price, you can change the rotor rings when it’s worn out and it’s great.
https://www.girodisc.com/Rotors_c_1286.html
https://www.girodisc.com/Rotors_c_1286.html
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Girodisc rotors for W222 S63
Confirmed Girodisc rotors fit my W222 S63:
Once my rotors need replacement, going with these next.
Once my rotors need replacement, going with these next.
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I’d find it interesting how many CCB brake jobs power-braking will require.
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I’m sure this topic has been discussed here somewhere, but I can’t find it. For those of you with CCB, for everyday, city driving, how do they compare to standard brakes? Any issues? Squeaking? Working when cold? I guess what I’m asking, other than the initial cost, is there ANY downside to them? Thanks.
My car is now on the 3rd set of brake pads using the same original rotors and I have 77,000 miles on them. I just qualified for the 3rd set by 1mm and I do realize I've milked these rotors for all I can get out of them but they still operate just fine. I will do the whole combo rotor set and new brake pads at around 100,000 miles. When I do, I might consider the porcelain setup to avoid so much brake dust and perhaps get even more miles out of them than the carbon brake system.
So , that being said, it is total bull that anyone should be having to replace rotors and all at only 21K miles. That's insane, unless the O.P. rides his brakes constantly.
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I test drove a brand new GT two weeks ago and the brakes squeaked on my first press down on the brakes. It wasn't anything horrible, just something I noticed.
My car is now on the 3rd set of brake pads using the same original rotors and I have 77,000 miles on them. I just qualified for the 3rd set by 1mm and I do realize I've milked these rotors for all I can get out of them but they still operate just fine. I will do the whole combo rotor set and new brake pads at around 100,000 miles. When I do, I might consider the porcelain setup to avoid so much brake dust and perhaps get even more miles out of them than the carbon brake system.
So , that being said, it is total bull that anyone should be having to replace rotors and all at only 21K miles. That's insane, unless the O.P. rides his brakes constantly.
My car is now on the 3rd set of brake pads using the same original rotors and I have 77,000 miles on them. I just qualified for the 3rd set by 1mm and I do realize I've milked these rotors for all I can get out of them but they still operate just fine. I will do the whole combo rotor set and new brake pads at around 100,000 miles. When I do, I might consider the porcelain setup to avoid so much brake dust and perhaps get even more miles out of them than the carbon brake system.
So , that being said, it is total bull that anyone should be having to replace rotors and all at only 21K miles. That's insane, unless the O.P. rides his brakes constantly.
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Service Department and it’s SA are commission base and will tell you your pads are low before the brake lights come on. If you replace the pads no more than 500 miles after the lights come on, you’ll be okay. If you run them more than 500 miles after, you risk eating into your rotors and even warping them.
It is not a hard diy job if your mechanically inclined which will save you allot ( average labor rate in SoCal is about $172 per hour and they usually charge you 3-4 hours when the tech can do it in 1 ).
As mentioned above, go with the better looking, performance AND low brake dusk Girodisk rotors and pads and save about half the money and go out buy your wife/family nice gift for them and put a smile on your face with Girodisk.
Good luck.
It is not a hard diy job if your mechanically inclined which will save you allot ( average labor rate in SoCal is about $172 per hour and they usually charge you 3-4 hours when the tech can do it in 1 ).
As mentioned above, go with the better looking, performance AND low brake dusk Girodisk rotors and pads and save about half the money and go out buy your wife/family nice gift for them and put a smile on your face with Girodisk.
Good luck.
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The $8,950 for CCBs is the best value of all the S63 options. With road use they will last >100,000 miles, saving 3-4 brake jobs that will end up costing 2x price of the CCBs. And they do a better job of stopping these very heavy cars, the steel brakes are barely adequate and wear out fast. And there is essentially no brake dust, with steel brakes wheels are always dirty.
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I had the brake pad warning light come on at 62k miles and I got a local garage to replace pads only even though MB dealer said you must replace pads and rotors too ... for $8k.
Cost me ~$1k - there was some whine noise for first couple of weeks when I wasn't using the brakes (weird huh?) but that has gone away as the new pads wore in to the old rotors and they're silent and powerful now.
$7k saved.
Cost me ~$1k - there was some whine noise for first couple of weeks when I wasn't using the brakes (weird huh?) but that has gone away as the new pads wore in to the old rotors and they're silent and powerful now.
$7k saved.
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Anyone has the knowledge can help to verify if calipers & rotors for S63/65 (W222) are the same as GT S and C63S.
We offer two piece rotors for W221 (07-13) Per our P/N: 2239/2237, although we believe from 2014+ (W222) the caliper and rotor could well be the same as C63S, SL63/65, and GT S (Our P/N: 2237/2357) which has 6 pot red front caliper and single floating rear caliper up to 2018 but not 100% certain.We know both W221 and W222 have the same size of rotors; 390x36mm front and 360x26 rear, but are different in offset due to different calipers.
RB 2pc replacement rotors for C63S, SL63/65 and GTS AMG
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-.../mb-irk-12.htm
We offer two piece rotors for W221 (07-13) Per our P/N: 2239/2237, although we believe from 2014+ (W222) the caliper and rotor could well be the same as C63S, SL63/65, and GT S (Our P/N: 2237/2357) which has 6 pot red front caliper and single floating rear caliper up to 2018 but not 100% certain.We know both W221 and W222 have the same size of rotors; 390x36mm front and 360x26 rear, but are different in offset due to different calipers.
RB 2pc replacement rotors for C63S, SL63/65 and GTS AMG
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-.../mb-irk-12.htm
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We apologize all previous posted links were broken due to our recent migration to a new website, but you still can use the same SKU# in the search box for the same result.
Here is the link for the rotor kit for S63/65 (W222) with updated description:
The kit now includes our most popular street pads Front & Rear (XT910) - Very low dust and no squeaking.
Front and rear are also available for purchase separately here.
Here is the link for the rotor kit for S63/65 (W222) with updated description:
RB 2 pc Rotor Kit (390/360mm) for Mercedes S63/65, C63S, GT S, SL63/65 AMG 2014+ (P/N 2237 & 2357)
https://racingbrake.com/search-results-page?q=mb-irk-12We also can confirm the front rotor height is 65mm as per our design drawing:The kit now includes our most popular street pads Front & Rear (XT910) - Very low dust and no squeaking.
Front and rear are also available for purchase separately here.
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