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If you're going from regular to factory CCB brakes, do the calipers need to be replaced also or are they strictly cosmetic? Do you need to change any other parts or recode modules?
It is my understanding that a Mercedes dealer will not sell you parts, unless your car came with those options. So if that is indeed true, you would have to go the aftermarket route and whatever company makes them for your vehicle, it should be a direct replacement. However that is something to ask them. My vehicle was optioned with them from the factory. I love them, regardless of them making noise from time to time. They are also a huge eye catcher with the sheer size of them and of course those gold calipers peaking through the black wheels. Sometimes at cars and coffee people are taking pictures of the brakes, not the car. Lol.
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Originally Posted by barryrobinson19
It is my understanding that a Mercedes dealer will not sell you parts, unless your car came with those options.
If you are saying that an MB dealer will not INSTALL parts that did not originally come on your vehicle, you may be right. However, I am currently shopping for a CCB set for a new SL and I can buy the factory calipers, rotors, pads, etc. pretty much from
any dealer. They will sell you virtually any part that is available. There may be some exceptions for very exclusive trim parts, but I'm not aware of any.
That is great news for you. I was only basing what I have read here on this forum, not necessarily this thread. Some people have had issues with there local dealers not wanting to order parts that they are willing to purchase, due to there vehicle not being built that way. I figure money is money. Yes some dealers will not install some parts that customers provide them to install. It is entirely up to each independently owned dealership, as to what rules they enforce and to what they will and will not do. However I would think money usually does the talking. However sometimes that does not work, on occasion.
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Originally Posted by barryrobinson19
they are also a huge eye catcher with the sheer size of them and of course those gold calipers peaking through the black wheels. Sometimes at cars and coffee people are taking pictures of the brakes, not the car. Lol.
I agree. I think the CCB look FABULOUS! AND, they produce very little dust, which in addition to great braking performance, is an added bonus! Why they don’t make them available for special order on most models is a mystery to me.
We have the CCB package. I talked to my dealer, including the techs. They said they have never replaced pads or rotors on a CCB car. Unless you track it. They do plenty of brakes on non CCB cars. I felt this was quite interesting.
I’d find it interesting how many CCB brake jobs power-braking will require.
I’m sure this topic has been discussed here somewhere, but I can’t find it. For those of you with CCB, for everyday, city driving, how do they compare to standard brakes? Any issues? Squeaking? Working when cold? I guess what I’m asking, other than the initial cost, is there ANY downside to them? Thanks.
I test drove a brand new GT two weeks ago and the brakes squeaked on my first press down on the brakes. It wasn't anything horrible, just something I noticed.
My car is now on the 3rd set of brake pads using the same original rotors and I have 77,000 miles on them. I just qualified for the 3rd set by 1mm and I do realize I've milked these rotors for all I can get out of them but they still operate just fine. I will do the whole combo rotor set and new brake pads at around 100,000 miles. When I do, I might consider the porcelain setup to avoid so much brake dust and perhaps get even more miles out of them than the carbon brake system.
So , that being said, it is total bull that anyone should be having to replace rotors and all at only 21K miles. That's insane, unless the O.P. rides his brakes constantly.
I test drove a brand new GT two weeks ago and the brakes squeaked on my first press down on the brakes. It wasn't anything horrible, just something I noticed.
My car is now on the 3rd set of brake pads using the same original rotors and I have 77,000 miles on them. I just qualified for the 3rd set by 1mm and I do realize I've milked these rotors for all I can get out of them but they still operate just fine. I will do the whole combo rotor set and new brake pads at around 100,000 miles. When I do, I might consider the porcelain setup to avoid so much brake dust and perhaps get even more miles out of them than the carbon brake system.
So , that being said, it is total bull that anyone should be having to replace rotors and all at only 21K miles. That's insane, unless the O.P. rides his brakes constantly.
Do you change the pads yourself, or does MB change them? I'm wondering if they give you the option to just swap the pads?
Service Department and it’s SA are commission base and will tell you your pads are low before the brake lights come on. If you replace the pads no more than 500 miles after the lights come on, you’ll be okay. If you run them more than 500 miles after, you risk eating into your rotors and even warping them.
It is not a hard diy job if your mechanically inclined which will save you allot ( average labor rate in SoCal is about $172 per hour and they usually charge you 3-4 hours when the tech can do it in 1 ).
As mentioned above, go with the better looking, performance AND low brake dusk Girodisk rotors and pads and save about half the money and go out buy your wife/family nice gift for them and put a smile on your face with Girodisk.
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The $8,950 for CCBs is the best value of all the S63 options. With road use they will last >100,000 miles, saving 3-4 brake jobs that will end up costing 2x price of the CCBs. And they do a better job of stopping these very heavy cars, the steel brakes are barely adequate and wear out fast. And there is essentially no brake dust, with steel brakes wheels are always dirty.
If he had he would not need the replacement and that would cost closer to $17k.
I had front and rear rotors replaced in SL65 back in 2007 and it was $8k.
I had the brake pad warning light come on at 62k miles and I got a local garage to replace pads only even though MB dealer said you must replace pads and rotors too ... for $8k.
Cost me ~$1k - there was some whine noise for first couple of weeks when I wasn't using the brakes (weird huh?) but that has gone away as the new pads wore in to the old rotors and they're silent and powerful now.
Anyone has the knowledge can help to verify if calipers & rotors for S63/65 (W222) are the same as GT S and C63S.
We offer two piece rotors for W221 (07-13) Per our P/N: 2239/2237, although we believe from 2014+ (W222) the caliper and rotor could well be the same as C63S, SL63/65, and GT S (Our P/N: 2237/2357) which has 6 pot red front caliper and single floating rear caliper up to 2018 but not 100% certain.We know both W221 and W222 have the same size of rotors; 390x36mm front and 360x26 rear, but are different in offset due to different calipers.
Has this been confirmed yet? are the front W222 S63 rotors 64.5mm in height? I assume its the height that is crucial. I'd like to use the GT S two piece front rotor on my S63.
We apologize all previous posted links were broken due to our recent migration to a new website, but you still can use the same SKU# in the search box for the same result.
Here is the link for the rotor kit for S63/65 (W222) with updated description:
RB 2 pc Rotor Kit (390/360mm) for Mercedes S63/65, C63S, GT S, SL63/65 AMG 2014+ (P/N 2237 & 2357)
The kit now includes our most popular street pads Front & Rear (XT910) - Very low dust and no squeaking.
Front and rear are also available for purchase separately here.