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Starting my search for a w222, what years to look for?

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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 03:14 PM
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Starting my search for a w222, what years to look for?

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 07:58 AM
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2018 and up.
I would rather have 2018 S450 then 2017 S550.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:56 AM
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Since you’re in the AMG section of W222 - are you indeed looking at an S63 or S65?
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah S63 for sure. The 2015 seem to be getting into my range.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:34 PM
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Yeah S63 for sure. The 2015 seem to be getting into my range.
I don't think you can really go wrong. There are facelift updates in 2018+ but they're relatively minor (front/rear lights, 1 piece glass dash, some updates to SW) but only the very nerdiest of car person could tell the difference.

All of the important stuff - engine/drivetrain remain completely unchanged. The conventional wisdom is get the most recent model-year you can afford. If you're worried about maintenance/repairs for a 2015/16 out of warranty then spend $5k on to get an aftermarket warranty.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with a 2015. Check service history, make sure you love the color combo and that it is loaded with the options you want. There are plenty of S63s out there for the choosing so be picky.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 01:31 AM
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Im in the same boat as the OP. Currently have a '14 c63 coupe (headers, e85, etc.) and love the raw power but I need something bigger and more comfortable to drive on my daily 100 mile commute.

My search has just started and I havent test drove anything yet but Im looking closely at a 15/16 w222 s63 or 15/16 w218 cls63 with under 30k miles (both seem to be in the same price range). A tune is very likely the only mod I will do on the new car but I need something that is just as quick as my c63 on the highway
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I don't think you can really go wrong. There are facelift updates in 2018+ but they're relatively minor (front/rear lights, 1 piece glass dash, some updates to SW) but only the very nerdiest of car person could tell the difference.

All of the important stuff - engine/drivetrain remain completely unchanged. The conventional wisdom is get the most recent model-year you can afford. If you're worried about maintenance/repairs for a 2015/16 out of warranty then spend $5k on to get an aftermarket warranty.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with a 2015. Check service history, make sure you love the color combo and that it is loaded with the options you want. There are plenty of S63s out there for the choosing so be picky.
I disagree. If one is looking at the 2018/2019/2020 S63 compared to the 2014-2017 there are MAJOR changes. The engine is completely different from the 2014-2017 as well as AMG spent millions of dollars on a completely new rear subframe for the 2018+ model years that normally does not happen on a mid cycle refresh. IMHO the 2018+ S63 is a huge step ahead from the 2014-2017 S63 especially on the power, engine and driving characteristics side. One thing to watch out for in the 2018 S63 (although my '19 and so far the 2020s have not had the issue) is the dreaded check engine light (CEL) as there has been an issue with the 2018 S63 and E63 for the CEL problem that has caused lots of manufacture buybacks on the '18s. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.

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I disagree. If one is looking at the 2018/2019/2020 S63 compared to the 2014-2017 there are MAJOR changes. The engine is completely different from the 2014-2017 as well as AMG spent millions of dollars on a completely new rear subframe for the 2018+ model years that normally does not happen on a mid cycle refresh. IMHO the 2018+ S63 is a huge step ahead from the 2014-2017 S63 especially on the power, engine and driving characteristics side. One thing to watch out for in the 2018 S63 (although my '19 and so far the 2020s have not had the issue) is the dreaded check engine light (CEL) as there has been an issue with the 2018 S63 and E63 for the CEL problem that has caused lots of manufacture buybacks on the '18s. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
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My bad - since the S65 didn't have any powertrain changes in 2018, I figured that they left the S63 alone too. Why mess with perfection (M279 baby!), right?
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So 14-17 have the same engine as my 2011 S63 and the later has the 4.0 right?
Does the 14-17 have BT audio?
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So 14-17 have the same engine as my 2011 S63 and the later has the 4.0 right?
Does the 14-17 have BT audio?
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Yes same motor but tuned differently with 14 more hp in the '14-'17 at 577hp vs 563hp in the '11 (of course since the '14-'17 is 4matic--atleast in the US-- there is more usable power to the ground). Yes the '18-'20 is 4.0 with 603hp rated in the US (Europe rates it at 612 hp). If I recall my '14 and '16 had BT audio.
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On this topic, I've read much about transmission jerkiness and other issues on the W222 63 cars. Are those common to the Sedan and Coupe, and if so do these model year differences factor in? Please advise. Thanks.

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On this topic, I've read much about transmission jerkiness and other issues on the W222 63 cars. Are those common to the Sedan and Coupe, and if so do these model year differences factor in? Please advise. Thanks.

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Had these issues in my 2011 S63 (5.5l engine) which had the 7speed transmission although it was not as bad as some people claim.
Current S63 has 9 speed and I have not experienced anything but very smooth and comfortable shifts.
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On this topic, I've read much about transmission jerkiness and other issues on the W222 63 cars. Are those common to the Sedan and Coupe, and if so do these model year differences factor in? Please advise. Thanks.

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I bought a 14' a few months ago. In sport mode it can be less than smooth. It can downshift into 1st at to high of a speed (IMO) which pulls the speed down more than you would expect. Does not always happen.

Much smoother in comfort mode (does not use 1st gear) but still not perfect.
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Don't forget about the Tech difference too. The Distronic starting on the 2018's was much improved as was apple car play added. The 2017's did not have apple car play. Also the steering wheel was changed on the 2018's to the touch pad on either side steering wheel and was much more user friendly. There is a big price jump though when going up to a 2018 and up. I recently bought a 2017 S550 Sport package car with 16K miles for 60 grand. Car is like new. I knew I'd be sacrificing some of these things but the car was just too good a deal to walk away from and all the colors I like in both Ext and Int.
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Congrats. Enjoy it in good health.
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I disagree. If one is looking at the 2018/2019/2020 S63 compared to the 2014-2017 there are MAJOR changes. The engine is completely different from the 2014-2017 as well as AMG spent millions of dollars on a completely new rear subframe for the 2018+ model years that normally does not happen on a mid cycle refresh. IMHO the 2018+ S63 is a huge step ahead from the 2014-2017 S63 especially on the power, engine and driving characteristics side. One thing to watch out for in the 2018 S63 (although my '19 and so far the 2020s have not had the issue) is the dreaded check engine light (CEL) as there has been an issue with the 2018 S63 and E63 for the CEL problem that has caused lots of manufacture buybacks on the '18s. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
All on the spot, but the cell issue on the +2018 S63 and E63 had α new software update at the end of 2019 that fix the problems. Just an FYI.
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