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2019 S63 T-Boned, Thoughts?

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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 06:24 PM
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Carlos $13K in a 221 S-600 Says you got off easy! Our 222 cars are amazing for how everything just.... works and continues to.... Issues with that four liter notwithstanding. The four liter/9 speed combination goes good. Friend has one. Love how it pulls from a stop with all wheels driven. My bent-12 powered car is 15mph faster at the top of the freeway on-ramp with rear drive.
Funny...I wish we could race sometime. I think I'd be so far ahead that you'd never catch me. But also, we'll probably never know...LOL
My old S600 was a W220, probably the worst generation of S-Class ever. I had several friends who had them and we all had problems. I remember selling my set of aftermarket wheels to a friend with an S430. He immedeately complained that they were bent. But they were less than 6 months old when I sold them and I couldn't feel anything. I guess the hydraulic suspension that I had in the S600 hid any problems. Something the suspension in his car couldn't overcome. It was $13K just in repairs, of which close to $4K for suspension alone, then another $4K on regualr maintenance. That was too steep for that point in time. I had several other cars that didn't even approach 10% of that cost in maintenance or repairs. Yes, the V8 was silky smooth and extremely powerful, and the car was a beauty, but too costly. And like Vanquish said, I like my S63 better in EVERY way.
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Old Apr 6, 2026 | 12:31 AM
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Yeah 4matic does make a huge difference, so far this has been the best AMG ive owned, Carlos too probably, since we both have the same car. Its very hard to leave this car, nothing rly competes cept maybe the s65 or perhaps a Maybach. However, its not nimble. Its just a big saloon super sedan. Any of you driven any of the amg gt cars? Gtc, gtr, older sls? Yes the m117k was indeed king on engine/trans, but my airmatic was always an issue. Question for you guys...is the airmatic of today pretty refined? Would i expect issues in the 50k miles or higher up? Read somewhere 90s and the s65s fare way better than the 63.
My 222 S-65 is the best S-Class I have ever owned. By a long shot.

222 S-65 is very sporting. Different from S-63. S-63 will beat me to 30mph but I’ll be 15mph faster by the end of the freeway on-ramp. I’ve done the direct comparison. Maybach is a different animal altogether. They can be had with the 279 bent-12 but the car; while fast isn’t about tearing it up. It is about quiet and smooth which it does well. I’ve driven several AMG GT’s. They go good. Very different animal than S-Class. Smaller inside. SLS is made of unobtanium. God bless you if you can do that.

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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 01:28 PM
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My 222 S-65 is the best S-Class I have ever owned. By a long shot.

222 S-65 is very sporting. Different from S-63. S-63 will beat me to 30mph but I’ll be 15mph faster by the end of the freeway on-ramp. I’ve done the direct comparison. Maybach is a different animal altogether. They can be had with the 279 bent-12 but the car; while fast isn’t about tearing it up. It is about quiet and smooth which it does well. I’ve driven several AMG GT’s. They go good. Very different animal than S-Class. Smaller inside. SLS is made of unobtanium. God bless you if you can do that.
tried and tested ! Past 50 mph s65 wipes the floor on the highway . The V12 cannot be BEAT on a highway at top end . Local street pulls etc the awd s63 is ofcourse quicker .

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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 02:21 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by carlosinseattle
s63’s are more fun to drive daily no joke .
but Carlos hopefully one day you encounter an s65 on the highway going 80 plus and then you both floor it . I guarantee u see tail lights .
I have had all three generations of the 65 . Have done this personally to all 63s . 😉

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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rockykhan
s63’s are more fun to drive daily no joke .
but Carlos hopefully one day you encounter an s65 on the highway going 80 plus and then you both floor it . I guarantee u see tail lights .
I have had all three generations of the 65 . Have done this personally to all 63s . 😉
how has the reliability been on the 65? I assume you have a 2018-2020?
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 03:37 PM
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how has the reliability been on the 65? I assume you have a 2018-2020?
222 Chassis cars are vastly improved over 221. 221 was a huge improvement over 220.

279 V-12 we find in the 222 cars now has individual ignition coils (one coil fires a pair of plugs). I have got to replace a total of one ignition coil in my car. 160,000 miles.

The engine is wonderful. Rest of car is also much improved. Less babysitting.
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 03:38 PM
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222 Chassis cars are vastly improved over 221. 221 was a huge improvement over 220.

279 V-12 we find in the 222 cars now has individual ignition coils (one coil fires a pair of plugs). I have got to replace a total of one ignition coil in my car. 160,000 miles.

The engine is wonderful. Rest of car is also much improved. Less babysitting.
Amazing!
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Carlos I at some point we must encounter each other on an agreeable stretch of road. You will beat me to 30. I will reel you in and walk away to rather dizzying speeds.
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Originally Posted by rockykhan
s63’s are more fun to drive daily no joke .
but Carlos hopefully one day you encounter an s65 on the highway going 80 plus and then you both floor it . I guarantee u see tail lights .
I have had all three generations of the 65 . Have done this personally to all 63s . 😉
Many times I have walked away from Mopars with that whiny force-fed motor. I suspect they didn't see it happening that way.
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Originally Posted by Vanquish59
how has the reliability been on the 65? I assume you have a 2018-2020?
I have a 15 s65 . I don’t daily drive it . It’s my weekend cruise choice . Pretty solid . Even the 221 was pretty good . Now the 220 is a whole another story . Lol
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I have a 15 s65 . I don’t daily drive it . It’s my weekend cruise choice . Pretty solid . Even the 221 was pretty good . Now the 220 is a whole another story . Lol
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