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Old 10-03-2019, 04:31 AM
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Why buy a GT43 instead of GT63?

This is one of the first full review of the AMG GT43.

As said in the video. Differences between the top of the notch GT63 and the base GT43 are very minor in exterior and interior looks. Major differences are engine and exhausts.

Is the GT43 unnecesarry if you consider the CLS43 and CLS53?

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Man, all digital gauge clusters just look so cheap and soulless.
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That is one sexy *** car and looks waaaay better than the newer CLS'! (IMO)
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Man, all digital gauge clusters just look so cheap and soulless.
Idk about them being soulless, but I dont get why the bezels on all these displays are so big. Seems like a thing across all MBs. I figured with the "all digital dash," they would start trimming it down lol
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The simple answer: $$$$$$$$

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The problem is that the car is a fast looking slow car.
4.9sec. to 100kmh (4.8 to 60); you'll be passed my many SUV's. And this car is well spec'd + CCB's so it will cost more than a base E63s. Performance is a key part of any AMG and a lowly A35 will blow past that car. That would feel embarrassing...
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The simple answer: $$$$$$$$

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As said on the slopes
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The problem is that the car is a fast looking slow car.
4.9sec. to 100kmh (4.8 to 60); you'll be passed my many SUV's. And this car is well spec'd + CCB's so it will cost more than a base E63s. Performance is a key part of any AMG and a lowly A35 will blow past that car. That would feel embarrassing...
That's funny: A fast looking slow car! Haha.

Let 'em pass! I'll be in the slow lane enjoying the ride
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Wow. Gt 43 with 4.8 zero to 60 whereas the gt 63s is 2.9
Makes me sad the amg gts is only 3.5 or so zero to 60. I always wonder why they make the sedans faster than the sports cars.
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Wow. Gt 43 with 4.8 zero to 60 whereas the gt 63s is 2.9
Makes me sad the amg gts is only 3.5 or so zero to 60. I always wonder why they make the sedans faster than the sports cars.
AWD vs RWD
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Wow. Gt 43 with 4.8 zero to 60 whereas the gt 63s is 2.9
Makes me sad the amg gts is only 3.5 or so zero to 60. I always wonder why they make the sedans faster than the sports cars.
We have an E63s and a GTC and while the GTC is slower to 60 due to RWD it is roughly the same in a 1/4 mile.
Runs 11.5 with a 128mph trap per C&D. Never tested it yet via our Dragy but the GT models get faster as they pickup speed.
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Originally Posted by dyc1077
Wow. Gt 43 with 4.8 zero to 60 whereas the gt 63s is 2.9
Makes me sad the amg gts is only 3.5 or so zero to 60. I always wonder why they make the sedans faster than the sports cars.
When the GTS first came out, some of car magazines had it 0-60 at 3 seconds flat. Depends on many things.
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Originally Posted by California John
When the GTS first came out, some of car magazines had it 0-60 at 3 seconds flat. Depends on many things.
Any sources? I would be absolutely shocked if they figured out some magic trick to doing that, without silly things like rollout. Even with much better tires, the best 0-60 time I can manage is 3.5, and based on threads on the forum, most people on stock tires are around the 4s mark.

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My neighbor has a 43. Every morning I hear her leave it sounds like a vacuum cleaner literally.
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My neighbor has a 43. Every morning I hear her leave it sounds like a vacuum cleaner literally.
Lmao read this and pictured a lady backing out of her garage and driving off riding a literal vacuum cleaner
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Originally Posted by Orcbolg
Any sources? I would be absolutely shocked if they figured out some magic trick to doing that, without silly things like rollout. Even with much better tires, the best 0-60 time I can manage is 3.5, and based on threads on the forum, most people on stock tires are around the 4s mark.
This is one source. You can research others if you like:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

For those who don't want to read it all, here is a partial data panel. GTS is in the middle.

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Numbers are numbers. Driving enjoyment can not be rolled into a simple straight line statistic.
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Originally Posted by California John
This is one source. You can research others if you like:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

For those who don't want to read it all, here is a partial data panel. GTS is in the middle.

Ah, yeah, C&D #s are bogus, they change their numbers are never accurate, as they use rollout and further change the number to simulated elevation.
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Originally Posted by Orcbolg
Ah, yeah, C&D #s are bogus, they change their numbers are never accurate, as they use rollout and further change the number to simulated elevation.
a friend ran 11.2 tuned with ****ty tires. So yeah.
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a friend ran 11.2 tuned with ****ty tires. So yeah.
Yeah, they are basically saying it does 0-60 in 3.0, but only hits the 1/4m in 11.2, which is bollocks, since tuned cars break the 11s mark, but are still 0-60 in the 3.2 range.
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My neighbor has a 43. Every morning I hear her leave it sounds like a vacuum cleaner literally.
And vacuum cleaners suck!

sorry, had too!
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4MATIC is probably equivalent to an extra 200+ horsepower for 0-60, but it has higher drivetrain loss than RWD
Once traction is achieved, a RWD car with same horsepower will gain on and eventually pass a 4MATIC car with the same rated HP, since it is delivering more of it to the wheels

S63/S65 make a good example, the S63 is considered 'faster' because of its better 0-60 w/ 4MATIC, but the S65 will eventually pass it

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