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IS MY SUPERCHARGER TOAST?

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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 11:56 PM
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Unhappy IS MY SUPERCHARGER TOAST?

I was driving home to encounter black smoke come from under my hood and through the ac vents. Immediately pulled over, shut the car off , and opened the hood to find my supercharger clutch smoking away ( it's charred). There was oil around the surrounding areas of the supercharger as well as the rear of the black supercharger drum which had a pungent smell, pretty much like gear oil. Once it cooled down I tried turning the drum but it would not budge. I disconnected the supercharger belt and got the car home. Decided to reinstall the belt to see what was going on and run the edge. There was a horrible whine coming the clutched pulley that would increase in pitch with engine speed, then the engine jolted twice as the clutch disenaged, then reengaged. It then disegaged again at idle.. gear oil smell had gotten worse and I could clearly see oil leaking from the black of the black super charger drum. Shut the car off again and the black drum would turn but seemed a little grainy when turning. Could I need just a new clutch or is my supercharger shot? The leaking oil from the drum has me worried. Smells really bad.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Take it in to get inspected. Perhaps you can remove the SC on your own if it's easier to take it to a good indy.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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Did you ever change the SC fluid?
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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sounds like a locked up blower, miles on the car?
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 02:49 PM
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FWIW the is a guy that has two for sale In the classifieds

Yours sounds like it needs at least front bearings and seal. I think there is a thread where you can get front bearing. The rear are not changable
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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I am located in NJ... Somerset....
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:39 PM
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I am located in NJ... Somerset....
I'm In Garwood if there's anything I can do to help
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sounds like a locked up blower, miles on the car?
83,000 miles. This is the 2nd supercharger. First one went at 16000 miles in 2006 and was replaced under warranty for me. The clutch then went on the replacement supercharger in 2012. I had about 52k miles and parts were covered by MBUSA as a goodwill gesture.
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Did you ever change the SC fluid?
Never changed. I was told by my tech that it wasn't necessary. I guess that's not the case...
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ls1toAMG
FWIW the is a guy that has two for sale In the classifieds

Yours sounds like it needs at least front bearings and seal. I think there is a thread where you can get front bearing. The rear are not changable
Sure the rear bearings are changeable. That's why the company made another production run and the batch of bearings are enroute to Australia.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ng-source.html

----begin included message (sent to me and two others on the forum) ----
Hi All,

I hope all is well with the e55's, we have good news and confirmation of the bearings for the supercharger leaving the factory and currently on the water and should be due mid to late April. I will send you all a link to order directly online if this is your preference of ordering or you can place the order with your local Cbc/bsc branch throughout Australia.
Any queries don't hesitate to ask

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------end included message -----

Good info on the supercharger itself can be found here (use Google Translate):
http://www.hehlhans.de/motorg55-7.htm
http://www.hehlhans.de/tab-wisg55amgk.htm
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Originally Posted by e55amg00
Never changed. I was told by my tech that it wasn't necessary. I guess that's not the case...
I've heard both stories. Fluid was changed and started having issues and then never changed the fluid and had issues. I can never make up my mind if I want to change it!
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
I've heard both stories. Fluid was changed and started having issues and then never changed the fluid and had issues. I can never make up my mind if I want to change it!

I used google translate on that German site that has the detailed documentation of the Kompressor. He sent the old SC oil out to a lab and it was still good after 12 years.

Here's the quote: Result of Oil Investigations: The two samples were tested in an oil-laboratory, all values ​​in the green zone. A change of the compressor oil after 12 years at about 80,000 km is not yet necessary.

How would it look in 25 years and 200,000 km on the oil to be seen. But since I have the oil changed, the clock counts over again.


If you're even remotely interested in how the SC works and is disassembled, I highly recommend you check out this site: http://www.hehlhans.de/motorg55-7.htm

Here's link to the page re: SC oil change http://www.hehlhans.de/motorg55-7-3.htm#b803


The SC should only be filled to about a centimeter below the drain hole. Overfilling will cause fluid to seep out of the vent hole and start slinging around the engine bay.

Here's good pic:
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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Great post! I am curious about the driving conditions. A lot of these cars are subjected to higher heat and rotor speed.
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