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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 11:12 PM
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I imagine E85 conversion would fix the octane limitations. Has anyone done that yet?
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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Yeah. I did mean 787 whp. I should be making a little more than 700 whp with my other mods. Any idea what kind of HP that equals to? Thanks.


Originally Posted by gaspam
i think you mean 787 whp and that was on 100 oct race gas and custom tune

http://blog.amsperformance.com/2012/...iturbo-engine/

... on 93 oct pump gas and canned tune, alpha 9 only makes about 680-700 whp per ams email to me
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
Yeah. I did mean 787 whp. I should be making a little more than 700 whp with my other mods. Any idea what kind of HP that equals to? Thanks.
driveline loss is supposedly around 15% so, 700whp/.85 = 823 chp
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
AMS Alpha 9 is advertised at 878whp and that was all I needed. More than enough for a DD.
David are you running the stock turbo back bridge? If not are you running any downpipes?
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Thanks man.

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driveline loss is supposedly around 15% so, 700whp/.85 = 823 chp
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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I have the AMS Alpha 9, but not sure what is a turbo back bridge?

I do have Renntech 200 cell catted downpipes.

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David are you running the stock turbo back bridge? If not are you running any downpipes?
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Turbo bridge is the short pipe that's the first exhaust pipe after the turbo, and that pipe is then connected to the downpipes.

Most exhausts retain the stock turbo bridge
(Such as: http://www.mbhmotorsports.com/#!e63-...wn-pipes/c1no9)
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 02:56 PM
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Thanks for the cleaification. Yes I have the stock turbo bridge.

Originally Posted by JoeNobody
Turbo bridge is the short pipe that's the first exhaust pipe after the turbo, and that pipe is then connected to the downpipes.

Most exhausts retain the stock turbo bridge
(Such as: http://www.mbhmotorsports.com/#!e63-...wn-pipes/c1no9)
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 02:09 AM
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Goletiani- That's an amazing build. Can you share some of the specs on the bottom end components. Were the rods and pistons custom, or do you have part numbers you can share? Same for the Darton sleeves, custom or part number available?
Here are all specs:

DARTON MID SLEEVE KIT:MERCEDES E55 5.4L (KIT) 900-600 After Sleeving it has to be honed to 98mm bore.



Crower Rods: ML93914B
ARP Rod Bolts: 90842
ARP Lube: 90894



Wiseco Pistons:WD-00631 (Custom Order) Cust: 163066



Siseco Rings: There is 8 set of 9800EK rings, and 8 set of 3858XS. You should use the top ring from 3858XS and second and lower from 9800EK set.





ARP Studs: (Weistec Engineering M157 Head Stud Assembly) Designed with ARP 626+ Hardware. Item Number: 01-157-01419-9)
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 03:06 AM
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Here are some pictures of the assembly process.




























































































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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 03:49 AM
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Holy crap!

Great build, thanks for sharing the pics.
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 09:07 AM
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how did you blew the motor up ? Thanks for sharing !
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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how did you blew the motor up ? Thanks for sharing !
I was trying to save some money with buying the ECU tune from one tuner, downpipes from other and modified turbo chargers from completely different suppliers. In the end the result was sweet )
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Goletiani
I was trying to save some money with buying the ECU tune from one tuner, downpipes from other and modified turbo chargers from completely different suppliers. In the end the result was sweet )
you mean the tune of the shelf
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Old Apr 10, 2016 | 12:29 AM
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Bondo..this is excellent info and really helps the community. Thank you for sharing. Can't wait to see final results
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 07:06 AM
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Do you have W4 on order, Goletiani?
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 04:31 PM
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Do you have W4 on order, Goletiani?
Yes, I do...
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Old May 7, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Wow, Goletiani, you are the man! This thread reminds me of my late teens when I was totally into building hot rods. I found this thread searching for info on the Weistec W.4 package. So, any updates from Weistec on when it will be available?
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Old Jun 1, 2016 | 07:11 AM
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Do update from Weistec so far. They cant even tell when it is going to be ready. the engine is assembled and waiting for its lungs ) I am very curious about the outcome after 1 year of waiting.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 06:11 PM
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Goletiani, did u finish your W4 project? Im about 7 months into my build and weistec has been a nightmare. Have you been able to get yours running properly?
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Let me guess they tell you you'll have your parts ready in 2 weeks and when you ask them 2 months later they tell you two weeks? Another month goes by and after avoiding your calls and emails you finally get through to them and they tell you 2 weeks?
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Let me guess they tell you you'll have your parts ready in 2 weeks and when you ask them 2 months later they tell you two weeks? Another month goes by and after avoiding your calls and emails you finally get through to them and they tell you 2 weeks?
yeah in a nutshell. The first shop that installed my w4’s didnt grind down the timing cover for clearance. It wasnt clearly outlined in the installation instructions that are provided with the kit. So now the car is @ eurocharged due to my turbo manifolds warping. Eurocharged is going to re install the new manifolds. The original manifolds were sent back to weistec to be re machined to spec. I was told that one was beyond repair. So my original mechanic paid for a new manifold to be welded and sent out. Once the two manifolds arrived, the one that was supposed to be fixed, wasnt. So now i had to buy a new manifold and its been 2.5 months of deliberation and tomorrow eurocharged is finally supposed to get new the manifolds and turbos. I just hope this thing makes power.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 09:46 PM
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Nobody has ran the W4 down the quarter mile and told the story. I issued a challenge for them and any w4 the beat time slipped I got with 780whp, to determine if their hp claim is true or lie. I've been posting Time Slips all summer, nothing from weistec.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by e65
Nobody has ran the W4 down the quarter mile and told the story. I issued a challenge for them and any w4 the beat time slipped I got with 780whp, to determine if their hp claim is true or lie. I've been posting Time Slips all summer, nothing from weistec.
Ill do my best to post numbers if this thing ever gets running properly!
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Old Sep 4, 2020 | 05:24 AM
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Ill do my best to post numbers if this thing ever gets running properly!
Sorry for bringing up such an old thread but I’m
curious on the outcome of this project, any numbers?
was looking at possibly going this route on a s63 coupe
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