ok guys, im hurting for some headers, like reeeeel bad. any one know where i can get some made? and my friend has a totaled E420, are the headers the same? can i take those, clean them up and re-pipe them and use them? thanks guys!

Mark

 

Seat headrest???
I have a pair in black for 129!
PM with an offer if interested.

 

headers "the exhaust" not headrest.........

 

OOOpssss

 

where would one get headers for the strait six and a free flow exhaust? Just curious. JJ

 

no one has any idea? Mr Brabus? anybody!!

 

money talks. get a gasket or two and get some flanges machined and I might know someone that would make one for you. He mostly deals with hondas, but a tig welder can weld products for whatever car you want. He could give them some twists too for some funk, but it will be somewhat pricey because it would be made to order and it's a unique item, but not as expensive as mainstream products.

 

sorry, they don't make them..... I ask around already..........

 

I will bid 2000 dollars to who ever can make this work. I want a very nice sound and better flow for more power. JJ

 

Don't think you'll improve on the stock ones.

 

Can I at least expect a little better Sound out the tail? JJ

 

Free flowing headers should improve the sound. Either that, or straight pipes.

 

What makes you think the headers are restrictive? Removing the centre box or changing the rear will 'improve' the sound.

 

Because Hondas use crap cast iron headers so there's plenty of room for improvement..

 

not gonna have anything made pre-payment. But 2k would be nice.


interesting mister. what relevance would that have with the topic? We are discussing aftermarket headers for a R129, not the production process/material of a Honda header. Also last time I looked in my engine bay, the R129 doesn't use equal length stainless steel headers.

 

Show me the before and after dyno and I'll take it all back.

 

My my your posts just get more and more useless.

Never said I was building one. If you really want one built give me 10kUSD plus a test/mock up car and I'll make one and dyno it for you. You think that your comment would make me compelled to make one just to prove you wrong? You really think that MB stock parts are the best they come? If you do, you need to get off the MB high horse.

 

Agent Murdoc,

Best in the world, maybe not. Even so, show me a car for under 1/4 million USD that can meet or beat the SL 600 in all aspects. Yes, the car costs a bundle new, but far less than most exotics, and still beats all of them in the combination of performance and luxury. I am sure more could be squeezed out of its performance, but at the expense of something else. There is something to be said for understated power, especially with such a fantastic ride. I know my Dad's Lambo had better 0 to 60 performance, but the ride is very... sporty. I know there is better luxury riding to be had, but not with that kind of performance, and not at the price. Everything considered, the SL600 has the best of all worlds for the best price.

Tip DS

 

Must we really name the good cars for 250K that are better than a 129 600? the list is HUGE! ill name a fiew
lets start with mbz-
R230-55/600/65
ferrari 430/360
aston martin DB7/9
masserati spyder
BMW M6
the list can go on for a lot more. but all of those are 2dr Roadsters with automatic and very comfterble that anyone in there right mind would take over a R129 SL600/500/320/300/280/60/ and some even the 73or the 74 from renntech,

my .02 the R129 is not the car i would clame is the "best car all around for under 1/4 M)

mark

 

I for one paid 15000 for my SL so I like to compare it to 15 thousand dollar cars. Not even the same catagory as my Ferrari. JJ

 

The way I see it, is that you can compare this automobile two ways. One, with other cars that cost in the same price range around the time it was for sale new. Two, with automobiles in the same price range today.

The SL600 was introduced in 1993 (then badged the "600SL")
BMW had the 850: M120 far superior than BMW V12
Ferrari had 348: 300 hp V8 0-60 in 6 seconds: All sport no luxury, still a sharp looking machine (now imagine retrofitting a SC M120 in a 348! )
Porsche had 911 Turbo: 360 hp H6, awesome handling, fun drive!

My SL600 (1997, bought with 35K miles for $29K final cost including all fees and tax)

Plus: M120 V12, Solid Feel, Long Lasting, Safe, Looks
Minus: Gas Mileage, Weight (makes it safe, but 1000lbs lighter would make me very very excited)

Alternatives for same price:
High Mileage M3
High Mileage M5 or average mileage 2000 M5
(Bear in mind I was looking for an automatic car)
CL600 W140
S600 W140
W210 E55 AMG
CLK55 AMG (a couple thousand more)
SLK32 AMG (similar cost as CLK)
Porsche 911 MY1999-2001

Reasoning for choosing the SL600:
I wanted a car that would be unlikely seen on the road. Something subtle, with a nice punch to it, but rare in the area at the same time. M3's are all over. Every now and then I will see a Porsche 911. Now the CLK55: less power but very light for quick off the line runs. I did not go for it because I truly cannot compare the look between the R129 and the CLK. Fine looking car, but I love the R129 lines - hell, why else would I have chosen it.

Impressions: It's a great car. Not the best out there, but certainly near unbeatable for the money and overall package. It represents a era where MB was about build quality, something which the new SL's lack to it. Don't get me wrong, the R230's are sheer stunning, but the quality is not true Mercedes Benz. I have driven faster cars, but none with such highway capabilites and smooth solid feel (an SL65 will fill the gap). The SL has even surprised me a few times, the most being when I beat out a lighter C5 Vette on the highway back in December.

Now, in order to make it perfect, I need a 1000 lb weight reduction, rebuilt M120 with forged internals and a centrifugal supercharger. Wald bodywork, ceramic coated headers, and custom Flowmaster exhaust. As for the interior, SLK AMG seats with lots of suede trim and CF panels. Then, it would be perfect!

HLG

 

ok right, so if one were to compare other cars to the PAYING price they got their R129. then it would be a good deal. and my rebuttle to anyone that thinks i am a spoiled brat because i drive an all MIGHTY SL, is that it cost about the same as a new HONDA/TOYOTA.

so yea, for 15-30K the SL is a good choice car.

Mark

 

Mark, young SL drivers such as you and myself are in no way spoiled, we just have good taste in cars and opted for something different than a 350Z.

 

Hey tipds, how you doin'. Don't get me wrong I love the R129 SL600, I drive one. But the truth is, it's not the best car ever and it's not the most exciting car ever. To be honest the car bores me. In the begining the car was exilarating, but now it's just ehhh with the occasional whoa! With that said I still love the car and I can barely imagine parting with it, but there are soooo many other cars that tingle my senses more. At times I prefer driving a swapped Civic over the SL600. Maybe it's also because I love Hondas also and have owned several with more to come. I know several cheap little Hondas that will spank SL600s all day. In fact, I am still in the planning/dreaming stages of building my beast of a Honda for chump change. The SL600s 13.6 1/4 mile is just average to my desires/expectations. The R129 is a fantastic car with adequate luxuries and performance, but defintely not on the top of my list. But you are correct, the SL600 is defintely a car worth the change they are selling for these days.

 

sorry, i'm not into the debates but if anyone can get headers for 129 300sl 24 pls drop me a line @ robin6565@hotmail.com