SL/R230: Cayman S vs. SL600 (RENNTECH)
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Cayman S vs. SL600 (RENNTECH)
Not knowing much about Porshce autos, performance wise how would the two do against eachother.
Porsche Cayman S vs. SL600 Renntech.
Porsche Cayman S vs. SL600 Renntech.
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Beats us in the twisties (lighter on its feet), we destroy it in the straights.
Highway driving we win.
On large tracks with long straights ala Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans we will most likely win.
On ultra-tight auto-x style tracks, we will most likely lose.
Highway driving we win.
On large tracks with long straights ala Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans we will most likely win.
On ultra-tight auto-x style tracks, we will most likely lose.
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Originally Posted by StephenK
Not knowing much about Porshce autos, performance wise how would the two do against eachother.
Porsche Cayman S vs. SL600 Renntech.
Porsche Cayman S vs. SL600 Renntech.
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2005 SL600 Designo, Graphite Gray, Panorama Roof
Yeah, whatever.
But the Cayman will still always look like a feminine Hygiene product.
Joking aside, I haven't driven one yet, so I'm not in a position to comment.
The assesments I've read above would seem logical: straightline, an SL600 stock or modded should be able to best the Cayman. However, mod the Cayman (once the aftermarket pipeline is filled), it may be a better match.
In the twisties, the Cayman should run away from any SL, I don't care who mods it.
But the Cayman will still always look like a feminine Hygiene product.
Joking aside, I haven't driven one yet, so I'm not in a position to comment.
The assesments I've read above would seem logical: straightline, an SL600 stock or modded should be able to best the Cayman. However, mod the Cayman (once the aftermarket pipeline is filled), it may be a better match.
In the twisties, the Cayman should run away from any SL, I don't care who mods it.
05-08-2006, 09:35 PM
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Personally I thought it was a nice looking ride. I was suprised at the price, I thought it would have been more based on the looks.
05-13-2006, 09:43 AM
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I think the Cayman is a good looking car, but very different from an SL in what it sets out to do. An SLK is a better comparison.
Porsche have a problem in that many people are saying the Cayman is as good to drive, maybe better than a 911 and Porsche have an interest in maintaining blue sky between the two.
Porsche have a problem in that many people are saying the Cayman is as good to drive, maybe better than a 911 and Porsche have an interest in maintaining blue sky between the two.
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Originally Posted by blueSL
I think the Cayman is a good looking car, but very different from an SL in what it sets out to do. An SLK is a better comparison.
Porsche have a problem in that many people are saying the Cayman is as good to drive, maybe better than a 911 and Porsche have an interest in maintaining blue sky between the two.
Porsche have a problem in that many people are saying the Cayman is as good to drive, maybe better than a 911 and Porsche have an interest in maintaining blue sky between the two.
Not sure I understand their model strategy or maybe I am just tired of cars that look so similar for the last 30 years. How about a nice performance sedan? They certainly have the knowledge...
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05-13-2006, 12:13 PM
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That (a high performance sedan) is coming - the Panamera in I think, 2009. Should give the BMW M5 and various Mercedes AMG models something to think about.
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That (a high performance sedan) is coming - the Panamera in I think, 2009. Should give the BMW M5 and various Mercedes AMG models something to think about.
Like I said before, I guess I am just tired of the same design which is more like a neverending facelift. Hoping to see a new look for a change.
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That (a high performance sedan) is coming - the Panamera in I think, 2009. Should give the BMW M5 and various Mercedes AMG models something to think about.
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I know about that one but don't consider this a real sedan; more like a 911/Cayman with four doors.
Like I said before, I guess I am just tired of the same design which is more like a neverending facelift. Hoping to see a new look for a change.
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Like I said before, I guess I am just tired of the same design which is more like a neverending facelift. Hoping to see a new look for a change.
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I'd rather have automakers keep a very distinct brand identity and, when appropriate, display a lineage in their cars from one generation to the next.
That being said, I'm not against change -- I just happen to think Porsche found a good balance of change vs. heritage over a long period of time. With the 996 gone and the 997 here, may that tradition continue...
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Originally Posted by blueSL
I think the Cayman is a good looking car, but very different from an SL in what it sets out to do. An SLK is a better comparison.
Even when the respective Porsche and MB cars are better matched, to some extent it will come down to your preference for handling vs. torque and "communication" back to the driver vs. refinement.
06-05-2006, 02:30 PM
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I agree with you about the early 996s, they looked very awkward with their long snouts but I think they got back on track with the 996TT. It is a sensational car, much more involving to drive than my SL55 and I expect the 997TT will continue the trend, though the purists are saying the 997 GT3 is the true driver's car, and I do not doubt them for an instant. Here in the UK, overtaking ability is key to making progress on undivided highways and a car with the TT's performance allows you to dismiss a line of a dozen cars following a truck in a single safe overtaking manoeuvre.
If I did track work, which I don't apart from the odd flirtation with the Nurburgring, the GT3 would be my choice. As my daily driver, the 997TT will do it nicely.
If I did track work, which I don't apart from the odd flirtation with the Nurburgring, the GT3 would be my choice. As my daily driver, the 997TT will do it nicely.
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Originally Posted by blueSL
I agree with you about the early 996s, they looked very awkward with their long snouts but I think they got back on track with the 996TT. It is a sensational car, much more involving to drive than my SL55 and I expect the 997TT will continue the trend, though the purists are saying the 997 GT3 is the true driver's car, and I do not doubt them for an instant. Here in the UK, overtaking ability is key to making progress on undivided highways and a car with the TT's performance allows you to dismiss a line of a dozen cars following a truck in a single safe overtaking manoeuvre.
If I did track work, which I don't apart from the odd flirtation with the Nurburgring, the GT3 would be my choice. As my daily driver, the 997TT will do it nicely.
If I did track work, which I don't apart from the odd flirtation with the Nurburgring, the GT3 would be my choice. As my daily driver, the 997TT will do it nicely.
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I agree with you about the early 996s, they looked very awkward with their long snouts but I think they got back on track with the 996TT. It is a sensational car
996 in general hasn't depreciated very well, from what I've seen. Too many of them around ... and they don't get much love from the purists (the looks, air- vs. water-cooled, too "civilized" etc etc).
Originally Posted by blueSL
It is a sensational car, much more involving to drive than my SL55 and I expect the 997TT will continue the trend, though the purists are saying the 997 GT3 is the true driver's car, and I do not doubt them for an instant.
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Sounds right. And the 997TT might be a better comparison for the SL600 Renntech.
Even when the respective Porsche and MB cars are better matched, to some extent it will come down to your preference for handling vs. torque and "communication" back to the driver vs. refinement.
Even when the respective Porsche and MB cars are better matched, to some extent it will come down to your preference for handling vs. torque and "communication" back to the driver vs. refinement.
06-12-2006, 08:56 PM
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Personally I thought it was a nice looking ride. I was suprised at the price, I thought it would have been more based on the looks.
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
Ditto. A TechArt 997TT would pretty much kill the Renntech SL600, twisties and in straights, sorry.
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Originally Posted by Juice it
Twisties yes, straights benz is faster.
Cubic capacity: 3.600 cm°
Performance: 442 kW / 600 hp at rpm 5.800 1/min
Max. torque: 850 Nm at rpm 4.600 1/min
Compression Ratio: 9,4:1
...........which will most likely shave more time off while still keeping the car lightweight.
So I stand with the Turbo still being faster off the straight line. Even with all that power, a Renntech SL600 is still heavier.
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Originally Posted by Dvinn
All Steve wants to know is how a Cayman compares to his SL. 
take a nice sunny day near the beach in a cayman (without a top down feature) driving along the coast...
need i say more?
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
A 997TT with the factory VTG can do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. A TechArt turbocharger installed in place of VTG has:
Cubic capacity: 3.600 cm°
Performance: 442 kW / 600 hp at rpm 5.800 1/min
Max. torque: 850 Nm at rpm 4.600 1/min
Compression Ratio: 9,4:1
...........which will most likely shave more time off while still keeping the car lightweight.
So I stand with the Turbo still being faster off the straight line. Even with all that power, a Renntech SL600 is still heavier.
Cubic capacity: 3.600 cm°
Performance: 442 kW / 600 hp at rpm 5.800 1/min
Max. torque: 850 Nm at rpm 4.600 1/min
Compression Ratio: 9,4:1
...........which will most likely shave more time off while still keeping the car lightweight.
So I stand with the Turbo still being faster off the straight line. Even with all that power, a Renntech SL600 is still heavier.
