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SL/R230: Findings variant coding tweaks annoying throttle delay, and adaptation.

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Findings variant coding tweaks annoying throttle delay, and adaptation.

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https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ml#post7852605

[QUOTE=Funkwagen;6680996]EDIT: Important, but for diesel w204s, M276 engines and models in general 2013+ , the lastschlagdaempfung parameter may already be disabled.

#1 (Lastschlagdaempfung) This is the most important one. This parameter seems to be the main culprit for the inconsistent feeling throttle response and sluggishness, and I believe it causes the wonky throttle body adaptations which I find so awful. Disabling it has removed most, if not all delay in throttle input. It is referred to as "load-reversal damping" in Vediamo (german), but it is the "Throttle Change Damping" parameter in Xentry. I changed this parameter about a month after the others, and it definitely had the most significant impact on throttle response, and now the throttle is very consistent in performance. I believe this parameter is more directly related to the actual throttle body than the gas pedal, unlike the next parameter.

#2 (Pedalkennlinie) This is the pedal curve parameter. My car had KLD4 as default. You can play with this, and possibly leave it at KLD4. However, I changed it to KLD2. From what I understand, KLD2 is meant for cars with a manual transmission, and as such, I'd expect the pedal curve to be the most "natural" feeling to the driver. In contrast, I believe KLD4 is more responsive, but "jumpier" (more erratic in terms of throttle input). Combining KLD4 with disabling the throttle change damping parameter may be undesirable in terms of comfort/consistency.

#3 (Momentenbegrenzung) This is the torque limit parameter. The main effect I've observed from disabling this is that the car doesn't reduce throttle/torque as much while cornering anymore, and the car seems to accelerate slightly faster from a standstill than before. May not be necessary to fix throttle delay, but I find it favourable.

#4 (Momentenerhoehung Getriebe) *This may already be set to the MSG option* This parameter is supplementary to #3. Like MrScott describes in his video, it allows the engine ECU to monitor torque output and send it to the transmission, but keeps it within safe/comfortable limits. I find this parameter to improve gear shifts very slightly; torque input and acceleration remains very steady throughout gear shifts. I believe it very slightly improves acceleration, even compared to only having the torque limiter disabled. Do not change this to the GSG setting. Doing so resulted in some very uncomfortable shifting. I'm not sure if there'd be a long term effect on the gearbox here, so just don't as a precaution. The option highlighted in black is the default setting - the ECU is not allowed to increase torque to the gearbox depending on measurement.


With all these parameters changed, I have my car performing the way I'd like it to. It's performance remains far more consistent, there's significantly less throttle lag, and it does actually accelerate faster (I've measured), but only very slightly. Starting off in C mode on an incline also no longer feels like as much of a strain. Now, all of this being said, if you have the tools and such to do this yourself, or know someone who can, you do so at your own risk. I've driven over 10,000km already without any negative effects of this, but I just don't want to be responsible if anything goes wrong. I can't imagine anything would, though. If you are willing to do this yourself, please be aware that there are many ecu parameters that are difficult to understand, and modifying them at all could potentially cause irreversible damage. I do not recommend making adjustments to any other unknown parameters without thoroughly researching their function and/or purpose.
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I stumbled over this thread after changing those setting my self. I was looking for something else, but this thread confirms my findings as well.
I can confirm that the above setting do work on my SL as well, and that the advantages are the same. In my car I had to disable # 1+3, #4 was already enabled. Did not touch #2
Drove with the above changes for 3 day's, and established a baseline. ( subjective ).
Further I found a setting called " Fahrdynamikpaket" translates into " Driving Dynamic Package" I have not been able to find any description on what it does, So I enable in order to find out what happen. My subjective opinion is as follows.
It works only in sport mode.
It stiffens the suspension.
The car seems to leans more into corners.
Throttle seems even more responsive, and so do up and downshifts.
Steering changes ratio, and becomes more direct, and tougher at higher speeds, is my feeling.
The fun factor has increased.
Based on the above, it might be a predecessor to "Dynamic", without any manual settings possible.



This is taken in simulation mode, did not think of doing it life.

I am not sure if this works with other ME97, but in theory it should, both on V6 and V8 engines. ( M272/273 ). Of cause everything that has to do with suspension requires either Airmatic or ABC I believe. Transmission wise, it has to be an automatic.


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