bobterry99

Two points.

First, I've already stated that Peter's product is fine. I even recommended it with the caveat that the buyer not be bothered by the exorbitant cost and his lack of scruples. Second, there are exactly two copies of the software I have to offer running on member's PCs. I doubt either member wants to enter into this fray and risk suffering Peter's wrath.

The crux of this discussion is this: is Chinese software "crap", or is it an incredible value that will do everything the owner of a 2003 SL500 requires of it?

bobterry99

I thought of two ways that enable me to provide software without the hassle of using the post office, so instead of charging $20 for the software I can provide it for free.

If someone sends me a 120GB thumb drive I will return it with the SDS software installed. The thumb drive will be a backup of my Dell. When the member receives the drive they simply boot up their Dell off of the thumb drive with a blank 120GB hard drive installed. Following the prompts the SDS software will be written to the hard drive.

Another method would be to mail me the blank 120GB drive that will go into the Dell and include a padded envelope with the return postage prepaid. The envelope must be small enough to fit into a standard residential mailbox.

My preference is the thumb drive method.

EDIT: I want to check with MBWorld after the holidays to ensure I am not violating any terms of use with this offer. Pending that outcome, software will be available after the new year.
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JamesMitchell

Forum Members,

I have reported Bobterry99 and Rudeney to senior moderators for their abuse on this forum. I've detailed my findings in this post: https://mbworld.org/forums/sl-class-...-pmercury.html

I've had it with Bobterry99's and Rudeney's abusive comments to a number of our forum members in this thread. Bobterry99 continued his abusive behavior in the new thread I posted above. Their demeanor and writings are unbecoming of decent behavior on our forums. Moderators, please remove Bobterry99 and Rudeney from Mbworld for violations to Mbworld's rules.

Best,
James

ray0214

You are a vindictive idiot!! Rudeny has provided far more free tips, info etc than any other member in this forum. Until on mercury started this thing I have never seen him post anything negative. He has always been supportive.

ctravis595

did bro really just make a second account to like his own post? thats like high fiving yourself

ctravis595

what comes around goes around i guess, ive seen too many nasty comments from pmercury for this not to be a suitable response


im not really seeing the difference either. some may be thrilled with their $800 mercedes diagnostic setup from pmercury, but intellectual property is no joke and it seems you're taking a legal gamble here. we've all heard about the teenage kid or grandma who was heavily prosecuted for stealing $10 movies or $1 songs...i do not recommend toying with a company such as mercedes over fake $10k diagnostic setups... especially with someone who causes as much turbulence as pmercury. i would tread lightly. perhaps its only a matter of time until these fake versions stop working? or worse, law enforcement is knocking on the door

im glad im not the only one who noticed this...

bobterry99

Yes!

Pmercury boasts of a sterling reputation and cites the numerous "likes" he has received. His current total is 318. In the past week he gave 14 of them to himself with one of his now-banned accounts!

Did I mention he lacks sruples? {...Checking..} Yes, twice.
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bobterry99

The odds of pmercury being reinstated have gone from even money to a 15-1 long-shot.

bobterry99

{In response to a pmercury post which the moderator has since deleted.}

Peter, this is what the moderator wrote:

"The banning of the pmercury account was an Administrative response to 'Non Registered Vending' concerning his commercial avatar and link to a website offering services. It had nothing to do with favoring one argument over another as I have very little wiggle room when a URL links to a commercial looking entity offering services. Additionally, when I followed the link the first time I received a trojan virus warning on my end, I banned the account immediately.

"Since then he has spammed the forums with multiple accounts using IP changers to announce how to contact him, all violations of our Terms of Service...

As an aside, I found trojan viruses in two different programs I downloaded from your *******.com site.
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bobterry99

I think I got my software from a member of *******.com, though it might have been by way of a torrent. I do not know the provenance of the software, but I think it is very possible that my copy is in violation of copyright law. It follows that any copies I make are in violation as well, I suppose.

Mindful of this I don't know how I should go about making my software available to the forum. I welcome feedback either by PM or replies on this thread.

JamesMitchell

Ray,
C'mon, man - couldn't you come up with some type of stronger language to name call me? Don't worry, I'm not taking your name calling personally. I prefer to call a spade a spade. It's just business. Just like good business for Rudeney. I can tell there's quite a following of folks who have been helped by Rudeney's helpful posts. I'm not disagreeing with that. The premise of what I am disagreeing with is based on Rudeney's own words as to why pmercury was banned. But first, let's read Rudeney's own words as he details how he had (as of yesterday) a link in signature block that linked to his diagnostic and repair services business: "I see you (pmercury) have accused me of advertising on the forum. If you read the link in my signature, there is NOTHING there for sale..You have mentioned that I also "advertise" in my signature block. Yes, I do have a link in my signature block that is on my company website, Benzbits. If you go poking around on other pages on that site, you may discover that Benzbits is a part of a for-profit business...Now, having said all that, I have had several (maybe around 8-10) forum members contact me for help through my Benzbits business and come to see me here in Alabama. In all cases - even one who had recently joined and never even posted - I NEVER charged anything for my services." Okay, so Rudeney had forum members actually visit him at his shop in Alabama, but he "NEVER" charged anything for his services. He or his techs actually spend time with diagnostic equipment on forum members cars, and then when the services are complete Rodney simply doesn't charge anything? He also offers convertible top repair. My convertible top needs work. I should plan a trip to Alabama and get the mbworld free convertible top repair special. What specific services does he offer? They are here: http://benzbits.com/web/diagnostics.html and here: http://benzbits.com/web/repairs.html and here: http://benzbits.com/web/other.html

Now, there is a follow on post by Rudeney that details the two reasons why pmercury was banned: "One, he was being very argumentative and making unsubstantiated claims that his version of the SDS software was better. Second, he was clearly violating forum rules by advertising for-profit services without paying to be a forum sponsor." But wait, he's never made any money by having the benzbits.com link in his signature... Yeah, right. With 10,600+ posts with the benzbits.com link in the signature and not being an approved vendor, Rudeney has also violated the mbworld rules that he accused pmercury of violating. Just calling a spade a spade. But what do I know? You haven't seen me around the R230 forum before. Well, I'm just a person who has driven my 2007 Mercedes for the past 195K miles since new. I've contributed to the X164 forum in the past. But now that I have a new to me SL55, I think I'll stick around here for a while. Thanks again, Ray, for the name calling. The truth only hurts if it should.

Best,
James

PrecisionEngine

I don't have much to say besides that this forum has removed a valuable contributor for a violation of the rules which he is not the only one guilty of. There are plenty of forum members who have received monetary benefit without being vendors. People come to this forum for help diagnosing their vehicles or enhancing their vehicles performance. These vehicles are a very niche market, which benefit from folks who are deeply in touch with their inner workings. Folks like PMercury, Rudney, and many more leave a paper trail of their hard work and info behind. That information alone, brings thousands of others to this forum which are then bombarded by direct and indirect advertising of all different sorts. Therefore, banning folks like PMercury is only going to decrease the amount of traffic in this forum. the less the traffic, the less will be purchased, until the forum no longer exists.

Folks like PMercury and Rudney, if they make any monetary gain, are not in the business of selling auto services. Their fees, if any, are most likely to cover some of their overhead expenses when helping others. How many times has someone requested a part verification because they didnt want to pay the annual subscription cost? Someone paid for that subscription, like PMercury. Who then provides the information to the forum for free. I help dozens of people every year fixing their cars. I never ask for money, but I do ask them to cover my shop supplies like, anti-seize, rags, etc. What is so different of PMercury or Rudney of accepting some funds to cover their expenses?

Removing folks like Pmercury or Rudney is only going to reduce the amount of information shared on a platform which already starving for attention.

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year.

JamesMitchell

Very well said! I can't agree more with your thoughts. I don't want to see Rudeney banned, as I also disagree with Pmercury being banned for many of the reasons you mentioned. But, as a newbie to the R230 forum, I found it extraordinarily contradictory that the very person (Rudeney) who supported Pmercury's banning, has also engaged in promoting his for-profit Mercedes business for many, many years. In reality, both Pmercury and Rudeney should be allowed to exist on this Mbworld forum for the benefit of thousands of MB owners. Personal jabs and/or name calling aside, I sincerely appreciate all who contribute to this forum. Owning a Mercedes is a journey - not a destination. Happy Holidays to all!

Best,
James

speedlimit

Thread is closed.

It's unbelievable that something so simple as a discussion of scanning tools devolved into this mess. Any additional threads on this topic will be removed without comment.

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