SL/R230: 2006 Sl
01-12-2005, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blueSL
I think it's unlikely, it's only new cars which have to have the new pedestrian protection; sheet metal changes are very expensive and I can't think of a Mercedes in the recent past where such radical changes have been made.
A stricter set of regulations is set for 2010, which means Mercedes is already planning for those new models that will be released in the next few years. The R230 will be at the end of its lifecycle then, so a new model will be released before these regulations go into effect.
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01-12-2005, 05:20 PM
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You're wrong, actually. The new regulations do indeed apply from 1 October 2005 but only to new designs or re-designed cars, not to new cars made to existing designs. That applies in 2012 so all new cars will have to meet the regulations from this date.
The issue is that extensive changes to an existing design will count as a re-design and therefore fall into the net of the regulations from 1 October. That's why I think the existing SL design will remain until the next generation comes along.
However, the new breed of European designs which supposedly meet the regulations is not encouraging from an aesthetic point of view. Rear and mid-engined cars have an advantage because the fronts can be made pedestrian-friendly without fear of your unfortunate pedestrian impacting your supercharged V8.
The issue is that extensive changes to an existing design will count as a re-design and therefore fall into the net of the regulations from 1 October. That's why I think the existing SL design will remain until the next generation comes along.
However, the new breed of European designs which supposedly meet the regulations is not encouraging from an aesthetic point of view. Rear and mid-engined cars have an advantage because the fronts can be made pedestrian-friendly without fear of your unfortunate pedestrian impacting your supercharged V8.
01-12-2005, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blueSL
You're wrong, actually. The new regulations do indeed apply from 1 October 2005 but only to new designs or re-designed cars, not to new cars made to existing designs. That applies in 2012 so all new cars will have to meet the regulations from this date.
The issue is that extensive changes to an existing design will count as a re-design and therefore fall into the net of the regulations from 1 October. That's why I think the existing SL design will remain until the next generation comes along.
However, the new breed of European designs which supposedly meet the regulations is not encouraging from an aesthetic point of view. Rear and mid-engined cars have an advantage because the fronts can be made pedestrian-friendly without fear of your unfortunate pedestrian impacting your supercharged V8.
The issue is that extensive changes to an existing design will count as a re-design and therefore fall into the net of the regulations from 1 October. That's why I think the existing SL design will remain until the next generation comes along.
However, the new breed of European designs which supposedly meet the regulations is not encouraging from an aesthetic point of view. Rear and mid-engined cars have an advantage because the fronts can be made pedestrian-friendly without fear of your unfortunate pedestrian impacting your supercharged V8.
01-12-2005, 10:15 PM
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I agree, it's to protect the kid chasing a football and running out into the road from behind a parked car in residential areas where actually the children should be taught road safety.
01-13-2005, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by blueSL
I agree, it's to protect the kid chasing a football and running out into the road from behind a parked car in residential areas where actually the children should be taught road safety.
It is a shame that some folks are not being responsible about their kids and want to impose laws on us for their lack of responsibility.
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01-13-2005, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by blueSL
You're wrong, actually. The new regulations do indeed apply from 1 October 2005 but only to new designs or re-designed cars, not to new cars made to existing designs. That applies in 2012 so all new cars will have to meet the regulations from this date.
The issue is that extensive changes to an existing design will count as a re-design and therefore fall into the net of the regulations from 1 October. That's why I think the existing SL design will remain until the next generation comes along.
However, the new breed of European designs which supposedly meet the regulations is not encouraging from an aesthetic point of view. Rear and mid-engined cars have an advantage because the fronts can be made pedestrian-friendly without fear of your unfortunate pedestrian impacting your supercharged V8.
The issue is that extensive changes to an existing design will count as a re-design and therefore fall into the net of the regulations from 1 October. That's why I think the existing SL design will remain until the next generation comes along.
However, the new breed of European designs which supposedly meet the regulations is not encouraging from an aesthetic point of view. Rear and mid-engined cars have an advantage because the fronts can be made pedestrian-friendly without fear of your unfortunate pedestrian impacting your supercharged V8.
(Examples of major changes to sheetmetal relatively late in a Mercedes' lifecycle: W124 E-class, 1993-1994 US model years; W210, 2000-2002 US model years.)
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p.s. you might learn from this that it's OK to be wrong and admit it, instead of getting huffy... oh never mind.
