SL/R231: Non-OEM brake pads and Warranty
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Assuming the rotors are covered by the OEM warranty and I am not sure they are, I suspect if you put aftermarket pads on and then have issues with your rotors you will be SOL. It shouldn't affect other parts of the car. Google Magnusson-Moss Act.
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I agree. Once I put the ceramic pads on my car, I feel as though I pretty much kissed warranty coverage on my brakes good-bye.
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It depends... The Pads and rotors are consumable parts and are only covered if something pre-maturely happens to them (uneven wear, grooves, warping, scarring). There is a risk that one has to pay for rotors is they have installed aftermarket pads.
That said, even under warranty you have to pay for replacement due to wear. SL rotors are cheap anyway unless it's a SL63/65
The brake system itself will remain under full warranty even with aftermarket brake pads. I know that as we had some warranty work done on our SL600 which had Akebono pads for years.
Anyone at the service department knows that MB pads are not the best and the biggest dust producers you can find on any brand. Most aftermarket pads are a step up in terms quality and not frowned upon.
That said, even under warranty you have to pay for replacement due to wear. SL rotors are cheap anyway unless it's a SL63/65
The brake system itself will remain under full warranty even with aftermarket brake pads. I know that as we had some warranty work done on our SL600 which had Akebono pads for years.
Anyone at the service department knows that MB pads are not the best and the biggest dust producers you can find on any brand. Most aftermarket pads are a step up in terms quality and not frowned upon.
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OK based on above I'm planning to change pads.
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Please advise pad #s to use and confirm please that they will be OK for my 2018 Sl550.
THANKS, Steve
Streamliner
Please advise pad #s to use and confirm please that they will be OK for my 2018 Sl550.
THANKS, Steve
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It depends... The Pads and rotors are consumable parts and are only covered if something pre-maturely happens to them (uneven wear, grooves, warping, scarring). There is a risk that one has to pay for rotors is they have installed aftermarket pads.
That said, even under warranty you have to pay for replacement due to wear. SL rotors are cheap anyway unless it's a SL63/65
The brake system itself will remain under full warranty even with aftermarket brake pads. I know that as we had some warranty work done on our SL600 which had Akebono pads for years.
Anyone at the service department knows that MB pads are not the best and the biggest dust producers you can find on any brand. Most aftermarket pads are a step up in terms quality and not frowned upon.
That said, even under warranty you have to pay for replacement due to wear. SL rotors are cheap anyway unless it's a SL63/65
The brake system itself will remain under full warranty even with aftermarket brake pads. I know that as we had some warranty work done on our SL600 which had Akebono pads for years.
Anyone at the service department knows that MB pads are not the best and the biggest dust producers you can find on any brand. Most aftermarket pads are a step up in terms quality and not frowned upon.
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My SL400 has the AMG sport package. Does that mean it has the larger AMG brakes? I am shopping for pads and want to buy the right ones. Thanks.
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Just checked and on my 2018 SL550 I have drilled rotors F&R
Rear rotors look to be smaller dia than the fronts though.
Per Streamliner's advice I'm going to call Porterfield for advice.
Curious though if Streamliners 2019 SL450 has drilled rotors F&R??
Rear rotors look to be smaller dia than the fronts though.
Per Streamliner's advice I'm going to call Porterfield for advice.
Curious though if Streamliners 2019 SL450 has drilled rotors F&R??
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When I first put the new pads on, I still had the original wheels on the car. The difference was substantial, in the amount of brake dust seen. I feel that the new pads cut it down by half, if I had to take a guess.
With these new, polished aluminum wheels, I feel that the reduction in brake dust is not enough. Mind you, I am a nut about clean wheels and I want these new wheels to always look pristine. So, to accomplish this, it would appear that I need to bite the bullet and do the whole smash, with the AMG CCB System. According to our friend, Wolfman and others here who have the CCB, there is ZERO brake dust. “Zero” is my favorite number when it comes to brake dust. So today, I visited a shop that seems to really be on top of such a project, as they have done several CCB retrofits. I believe that I am going to take the plunge!
Might anyone here want to purchase my Porterfield Ceramic brake pads—with less than 400 miles on them— in a week or two?
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OK sure now you are going to pull me into a CCB upgrade
Please let us know all the details (AMG PNs, will you be buying from MB or who, parts cost and install cost ect)
Are there any downsides to CCB (other than the obvious cost), rotor life, pad life ect much better than OEM ?, need to change brake fluid and if so to what??
I plan on keeping the car so maybe the CCB upgrade will work for me
THANKS !
Steve
Please let us know all the details (AMG PNs, will you be buying from MB or who, parts cost and install cost ect)
Are there any downsides to CCB (other than the obvious cost), rotor life, pad life ect much better than OEM ?, need to change brake fluid and if so to what??
I plan on keeping the car so maybe the CCB upgrade will work for me
THANKS !
Steve
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OK sure now you are going to pull me into a CCB upgrade
Please let us know all the details (AMG PNs, will you be buying from MB or who, parts cost and install cost ect)
Are there any downsides to CCB (other than the obvious cost), rotor life, pad life ect much better than OEM ?, need to change brake fluid and if so to what??
I plan on keeping the car so maybe the CCB upgrade will work for me
THANKS !
Steve
Please let us know all the details (AMG PNs, will you be buying from MB or who, parts cost and install cost ect)
Are there any downsides to CCB (other than the obvious cost), rotor life, pad life ect much better than OEM ?, need to change brake fluid and if so to what??
I plan on keeping the car so maybe the CCB upgrade will work for me
THANKS !
Steve
The cost is enormous, probably around $15K. As I understand it, the CCB work great, there is ZERO dust, they look great, IMO, and when used in normal street driving, can last 100,000 miles or more. They weigh way less than standard brakes, reducing the unsprung weight substantially. You will need to check clearances on the front, as the rotors are huge and will not fit behind some 19” wheels. I’m still shopping around, looking for a great deal. A fellow with an S63 Coupe, had the dealer do the upgrade. Check it out here: https://mbworld.org/forums/s63-amg-4...pgrades-2.html
It was like almost $23K! I need a way better deal before I pull the trigger.
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CCB retrofits are sticker-shock inducing and not for the faint of heart
As mentioned before, there is no brake dust but the wheels will get dirty just like the car will from the usual dust and street dirt. Just FYI.
Given the significant price, I suggest a good amount of personal testing as these brakes grip different and are designed for strong braking. They can be grippy and should undergo a proper bedding (burnishing) procedure once installed.
Streamliner, just like with the SL65 I would recommend finding a new or used local SL63 with CCB's to take for an extended test drive that allows you to go for a variety of stopping situations.
As mentioned before, there is no brake dust but the wheels will get dirty just like the car will from the usual dust and street dirt. Just FYI.
Given the significant price, I suggest a good amount of personal testing as these brakes grip different and are designed for strong braking. They can be grippy and should undergo a proper bedding (burnishing) procedure once installed.
Streamliner, just like with the SL65 I would recommend finding a new or used local SL63 with CCB's to take for an extended test drive that allows you to go for a variety of stopping situations.
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The cost is enormous, probably around $15K. As I understand it, the CCB work great, there is ZERO dust, they look great, IMO, and when used in normal street driving, can last 100,000 miles or more. They weigh way less than standard brakes, reducing the unsprung weight substantially. You will need to check clearances on the front, as the rotors are huge and will not fit behind some 19” wheels. I’m still shopping around, looking for a great deal. A fellow with an S63 Coupe, had the dealer do the upgrade. Check it out here: https://mbworld.org/forums/s63-amg-4...pgrades-2.html
It was like almost $23K! I need a way better deal before I pull the trigger.
It was like almost $23K! I need a way better deal before I pull the trigger.
Just following up on this thread to post quick pic of a dirty wheel
Having had some heavy rains, road construction and not being washed for a couple of weeks with about 500 miles of driving this is how a dirty CCB wheel looks.
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That’s incredible! My ceramic pads have cut down the dust by at least 50% and the dust appears to be of a lighter color, but it is still unacceptable. Too bad MB will not offer the CCB option across the board on their higher end cars. I would have ordered it on my S & SL in a heartbeat.
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I have had my '18 SL 550's paint and wheels to include the barrels of the rims coated with ceramic by Opti-Pro Plus. Opti-Pro Glass was applied to all glass and lenses. Since then, there is certainly less brake dust, and the brake dust that does collect is much easier to remove, as it does not stick as well to the wheels. I could not be more satisfied with the entire car's added protection and ease to clean. My '15 Z71 Silverado LTZ and '14 E 350 Cab were also ceramic coated. Loads of protection with ease of maintenance!
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