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SL/R231: Keeping roof half open (service position)

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Old 04-16-2020 | 06:18 PM
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The official part number would be A0009893660, but may be dearer depending on your location. Discussion of using it on rubber seals and/or pivot points can be found via googling “mercedes krytox” or places like this.

As personal opinion, I do not think it is strictly necessary outside 2 scenarios: Either the roof/window seals have issues, or you are planning to keep the car for a very long time and it is simply preventative maintenance.

Edit: One warning note. I actually have one of the M-B bottles myself, and it comes with a rather thick multi-language warning label with bold red lettering explaining that it can NOT be cleaned off completely. It warns you to be careful when applying it as it may affect the reliability of future painting or bonding work, and any tools including cloths used with it are "contaminated" and are to be disposed of instead of washed.
For reference, this is the M-B warning label:





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Old 04-16-2020 | 06:30 PM
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I've ordered some Krytox GP-105 to treat the rubber seals (very expensive stuff but apparently what MB use)..
For a long time I've used the clear Super Lube pictured... on my former SLK55's retractable hardtop and many sunroof tracks. It is available from AutoZone, O'Reilly, etc. I intend to us it on my SL550 seals as well. It seems like a good alternative to more expensive lubricants.


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Old 04-17-2020 | 02:22 AM
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Old 04-17-2020 | 02:58 AM
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Old 04-17-2020 | 03:00 AM
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For reference, this is the M-B warning label:


Be a problem getting rid of my fingertips.

Other than sticking like baby $h1t to a blanket, it is completely safe to use and is used in the food industry.

Old 04-17-2020 | 02:40 PM
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Is this something that is included in any of the recommended services?
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Old 04-17-2020 | 03:09 PM
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Is this something that is included in any of the recommended services?
Don't know, don't care. Don't want a mechanic that "don't care" Don't want a roof that leaks.
Old 10-02-2020 | 01:26 PM
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Regarding the roof mechanism being held open, could you not open the roof to the required position then turn off the battery isolator in the engine compartment. And would silicone spray or grease work on the seals etc.
Old 10-02-2020 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bay Leaf
Regarding the roof mechanism being held open, could you not open the roof to the required position then turn off the battery isolator in the engine compartment. And would silicone spray or grease work on the seals etc.
The roof will eventually fall one way or the other. It is heavy and if a body part gets trapped you could be in trouble. Kryrox is teh recommended product but most use Gummi Pflege because Krytox (whihd is what I believe MB use) is very expensive. AFAIK silicone gets sticky and collects dust and Gummi Pflege dries out.

I didn't know there was a battery isolator but it would make no difference. I understand the system is hydraulic....
Old 10-02-2020 | 03:33 PM
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Rory is correct. I know from personal experience on an SLK 172 that the roof depressurises without warning and folds down. You don't want fingers to be anywhere near the mechanism if that happens!
I'm guessing its much the same for a 231 SL.
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Old 10-03-2020 | 12:39 PM
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Yes I understand what your saying. I forgot that it was hydraulic, I've only had the car just over a month so I'm learning all the time.
Old 10-04-2020 | 09:23 AM
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The small battery located under the front hood is the start only battery. You'll see how small it is.
The rear battery located under the trunk lining is, as stated, for all the auxiliary components.
I an not sure if the MB has this option, however, on my Bentley, if the start battery dies, you can use the auxiliary battery to start the vehicle by holding the key in the ignition to the left, holding it, then start the vehicle as you normally would.
Old 10-05-2020 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by josephdonofrio
The small battery located under the front hood is the start only battery. You'll see how small it is.
The rear battery located under the trunk lining is, as stated, for all the auxiliary components.
I an not sure if the MB has this option, however, on my Bentley, if the start battery dies, you can use the auxiliary battery to start the vehicle by holding the key in the ignition to the left, holding it, then start the vehicle as you normally would.
I believe it is that other way around. The small battery will not deliver enough CCA. The cranking batteries are usually pretty big so that it can deliver the power to crank a cold engine. The Varta web site shows the small battery as the auxiliary......

Not sure which model you have but I believe that the auxiliary battery is behind the right seat in all R231s




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Old 10-14-2020 | 01:38 PM
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Going back a few post's I can understand the logic of leaving the engine running whilst having the roof open halfway,which keeps the hydraulic pressure constant. As I said in one of my post's I thought the mechanism was purely electrical. We live and learn.
Old 10-20-2020 | 08:06 AM
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Is this something that is included in any of the recommended services?
I was wondering the same thing.
Old 10-30-2020 | 02:04 PM
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Out of curiosity I opened my roof half way and left the engine running whilst I cleaned the seals. I watched a video the other day and the guy said to be careful because the roof will start to close after seven minutes even with the engine running. However whilst doing the seals I heard a bleep/bleeps and a message saying that the roof will start to close, but it didn't it stayed put the whole time till I closed it. So there is some conflicting information out there.
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Originally Posted by Bay Leaf
Out of curiosity I opened my roof half way and left the engine running whilst I cleaned the seals. I watched a video the other day and the guy said to be careful because the roof will start to close after seven minutes even with the engine running. However whilst doing the seals I heard a bleep/bleeps and a message saying that the roof will start to close, but it didn't it stayed put the whole time till I closed it. So there is some conflicting information out there.
Regardless or irregardless of the information out there just remember that this is a piece of machinery and you can do some huge damage to your hands by not being careful.
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I lowered my roof halfway, left the engine running and quickly treated my seals with this stuff:
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Old 10-31-2020 | 01:48 PM
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Yes I totally agree, safety is paramount. I was just pointing out the fact that the roof doesn't close automatically.

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