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4Matic on a SL? These things are going to rip 0-60 times!
Well, maybe the 63 and 73 versions, but speaking as a current owner of a CLS53 and an SL550 and past owner of a CLS63S and GTS, there is nothing like the sound and torque from a twin turbo V8.
Well, maybe the 63 and 73 versions, but speaking as a current owner of a CLS53 and an SL550 and past owner of a CLS63S and GTS, there is nothing like the sound and torque from a twin turbo V8.
The auto industry has gone crazy with torque and 0-60 times that it has become ridiculous.
I use the Renntech program in my ‘19 SL550 and even with Summer tires installed keeping the rear wheels from spinning at under 30 mph is impossible. I understand that all wheel drive will prevent some of this but 99% of SL owners will never come close to using the HP. If MB would spend the time and engineering on other improvements and accessories rather than raw speed the SL would be a larger seller.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by slk55er
Well, maybe the 63 and 73 versions, but speaking as a current owner of a CLS53 and an SL550 and past owner of a CLS63S and GTS, there is nothing like the sound and torque from a twin turbo V8.
..............AND, if somebody wants that, the AMG GT line is waiting for them. However, many folks out there who have been SL drivers for years, are looking for smooth, comfortable, quiet motoring—I know I am. All six of the SL’s I owned prior to the R231’s had those qualities. ALL of those models were relatively more successful than the 231’s. WHY build yet another “rocket sled?” There are way too many of those already, while smooth, comfortable and quiet cars are a rarity, pretty much only available from Bentley and Rolls-Royce. Oh well.
This showed up on the MB SL Class FaceBook page tonight. Stay tuned:
So, once again, the 43 will be the one to get . 4-Matic should be an option, or at least delete-able. Lots of folks will have no use for all wheel drive. I thought the SLINO lost its folding hard top because they were so concerned with reducing useless weight to improve emissions and fuel economy. Now they're going to saddle most of them with 4-Matic? I understand that some models will work better with AWD, but nearly the entire range? Seriously?
Last edited by Dr. Manhattan; May 20, 2020 at 11:31 AM.
Hmm. I'd go for a 53 vs. a 43 because the 53 (as in my CLS53) has the electric turbocharger in addition to the flywheel/motor and other features. I posted an extensive comparison of the two versions and current Formula 1 technology at:
And here is a good summary posted by "Petee1997" :
Both cars have the EQ boost electric motor. The 53 has a electric super charger to offset the the dead spot from the turbo spooling up. The car is also tuned to higher HP. The transmission also has a speed shift function that acts like a dual clutch. The suspension is AMG tuned also. I think the brakes are also different. The Canadian model has nappa leather with the designo finish showing AMG insignia on the backrest as standard equipment.
If you load up the 450, it's not a big leap to go up to the AMG model because there is more standard equipment in the AMG. Either way, both cars are excellent but expect the AMG to have a stiffer ride even in the comfort setting. Mine has the AMG driver's package which gives you performance exhaust(pops and burbs) and the race mode for track performance and drag strip timing. Because the car comes with higher speed tires the electronic speed setting is higher.
The auto industry has gone crazy with torque and 0-60 times that it has become ridiculous.
I use the Renntech program in my ‘19 SL550 and even with Summer tires installed keeping the rear wheels from spinning at under 30 mph is impossible. I understand that all wheel drive will prevent some of this but 99% of SL owners will never come close to using the HP. If MB would spend the time and engineering on other improvements and accessories rather than raw speed the SL would be a larger seller.
Your SL must be crazy fast if you ever got traction. Even if we all had a track it would be almost impossible to use all the power lol. I cannot even floor a CLK or CL without wheelspin. The 0-60 times are basically now for bragging right.
So, once again, the 43 will be the one to get . 4-Matic should be an option, or at least delete-able. Lots of folks will have no use for all wheel drive. I thought the SLINO lost its folding hard top because they were so concerned with reducing useless weight to improve emissions and fuel economy. Now they're going to saddle most of them with 4-Matic? I understand that some models will work better with AWD, but nearly the entire range? Seriously?
Rear wheel drive cars are going the way of the Dodo bird as well. Strangely enough AWD doesn't add a lot of weight (less than 100lbs). I expect the new SL to weigh as much as a 911 Turbo when all is done.
The SLINO seems to resonate with many of you, it will be likely quite the opposite; becoming more like the original SL...
Rear wheel drive cars are going the way of the Dodo bird as well. Strangely enough AWD doesn't add a lot of weight (less than 100lbs). I expect the new SL to weigh as much as a 911 Turbo when all is done.
The SLINO seems to resonate with many of you, it will be likely quite the opposite; becoming more like the original SL...
AWD adds 110 lbs to a 911, and Porsche is very worried about weight...
AWD adds 110 lbs to a 911, and Porsche is very worried about weight...
Sooo... what is your point?
That adding front wheel drive to a rear engine may add more weight than adding it to a mid-front engine?
You appear impressed that Porsche is so concerned about weight when the AMG GT that the new SL will be sharing a platform with already weighs less than the 911 TT cab...
“...............a return of the legendary SL73.” Since when has an MB 73 anything been legendary?
Of course the SL73 has been legendary. The car itself was known to people knowing AMG's but the engine is famous as it became the foundation of every Pagani Zonda and up...
So should I expect the new 73 series to be a mild hybrid based on a 4-liter V8 with a 48-volt flywheel motor, dual exhaust-driven turbochargers and EQ Plus 48-volt compressors similar to my 3-liter 6-cylinder 53 series? Seems like that would be consistent with MB's model numbering these days. The "e" adds an interesting twist -- perhaps a pure electric.
(I corrected this -- the turbochargers are traditional exhaust-driven. The accessories like PS, AC, etc. operate at 48 volts with no accessory belt at the front of the engine.)
Call it what they want, but that first rendering is not an SL -- it is a GT as far as I'm concerned. A wolf in wolf's clothing. Give me something unique and classy. Thanks but I'll keep my current SL. If I want a GT, I'll get a GT.
I'm looking forward to the SL55. My current SL won't hook up on launches even with wider, higher performance tires. Hopefully the 4matic + will help. A limited slip diff is a must as well.
I'm looking forward to the SL55. My current SL won't hook up on launches even with wider, higher performance tires. Hopefully the 4matic + will help. A limited slip diff is a must as well.
LSD is default on the GT's. Mechanical on the low-end, electronic on bigger models or with the DPP (Dynamic Performance Package). Same with electronic engine mounts. The GT models have surprisingly little wheel spin due to the weight of the transaxle but nothing beats AWD. I assume that some models will have selectable rearwheel drive for classic oversteering or drifting
LSD is default on the GT's. Mechanical on the low-end, electronic on bigger models or with the DPP (Dynamic Performance Package). Same with electronic engine mounts. The GT models have surprisingly little wheel spin due to the weight of the transaxle but nothing beats AWD. I assume that some models will have selectable rearwheel drive for classic oversteering or drifting
I've driven a GTC and the e-diff makes a MASSIVE difference. If the SL55 has selectable RWD and the GTC diff, I'm sold!
I was looking at my online copy of Motor Trend last night, and they state that the new SL will have a folding hard top...and then they include the latest renderings of the soft top model...
I was looking at my online copy of Motor Trend last night, and they state that the new SL will have a folding hard top...and then they include the latest renderings of the soft top model...
This is the first I've heard of the folding hard top. That could be a game changer, even with the 2+2 factor.
I was looking at my online copy of Motor Trend last night, and they state that the new SL will have a folding hard top...and then they include the latest renderings of the soft top model...
I saw that too, but pretty sure it was simply a misprint!...
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Dr. Manhattan
I was looking at my online copy of Motor Trend last night, and they state that the new SL will have a folding hard top...and then they include the latest renderings of the soft top model...
Motor Trend has never been highest compression cylinder in the engine block of car magazines.
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. 4-Matic should be an option, or at least delete-able. Lots of folks will have no use for all wheel drive. I thought the SLINO lost its folding hard top because they were so concerned with reducing useless weight to improve emissions and fuel economy. Now they're going to saddle most of them with 4-Matic? I understand that some models will work better with AWD, but nearly the entire range? Seriously? 
