SL-Class (R231) 2013 on: Discussion on the SL550

SL/R231: dash bubble

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 05-14-2021, 10:36 AM
  #26  
Member
 
KeithS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 94
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
2015 SL550
Originally Posted by hornethandler
Just trying to understand how this could happen. Is it possible that cleaning/conditioning products could have seeped through the leather and loosened the glue underneath?

I used mink oil paste yesterday and applied it as recommended on warm leather. It immediately turned liquid and seeped deep into the pores of the leather.
Where I live, in Orlando FL, I know the heat and humidity play a big role in this dash issue. I'm trying everything I can before I start poking holes and inserting glue under the leather. If I have to do the steam method a couple times a year to temporarily resolve, I'd rather go that route for now if It's working.
Old 05-14-2021, 10:43 AM
  #27  
Member
 
hornethandler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 201
Received 113 Likes on 75 Posts
2019 SL450; 2023 M850i
Originally Posted by KeithS
Where I live, in Orlando FL, I know the heat and humidity play a big role in this dash issue. I'm trying everything I can before I start poking holes and inserting glue under the leather. If I have to do the steam method a couple times a year to temporarily resolve, I'd rather go that route for now if It's working.
Have you previously applied cleaning/conditioning products?
Old 05-14-2021, 11:31 AM
  #28  
Member
 
KeithS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 94
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
2015 SL550
No. Nothing else to that area to get the bubble down besides water and a hair dryer. I clean the entire dash occasionally and dust but that's it.
Old 03-17-2022, 04:30 PM
  #29  
DCF
Newbie
 
DCF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southwest FL
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
13 SL63, 07 SL550, 16 Escalade, 11 C70
My SL63 has bubbles in the Designo Leather Dash Pad and I was thinking I would have to take the dash pad out and replace it. I was skeptical of the 'steam process' but though I would give it a try. To my surprise, it worked and was relatively easy to do. I hope it lasts. Thanks very much to KiethS for sharing the process. Below are before and after pictures (the bubble on the right by the windshield was removed by the same process after I took the after picture).

The following 2 users liked this post by DCF:
crconsulting (03-21-2022), KeithS (03-17-2022)
Old 10-03-2022, 05:18 PM
  #30  
Super Member

 
as.thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 654
Received 202 Likes on 166 Posts
2016 S550C4, 2005 SL500
Originally Posted by DCF
My SL63 has bubbles in the Designo Leather Dash Pad and I was thinking I would have to take the dash pad out and replace it. I was skeptical of the 'steam process' but though I would give it a try. To my surprise, it worked and was relatively easy to do. I hope it lasts. Thanks very much to KiethS for sharing the process. Below are before and after pictures (the bubble on the right by the windshield was removed by the same process after I took the after picture).

Could you describe the "Steam Process" that you used. My S550 has developed some similar bubbles that I would like to correct. Many thanks!
Old 10-03-2022, 08:31 PM
  #31  
Member
 
KeithS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 94
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
2015 SL550
Basically took a smooth wet/damp sponge, wet the area that has the bubble, let it sit there for a minute, blotted it dry with a towel, than took a hair dryer to it on high heat going back and forth around the area. Also smoothed it out with my hand and roller while it was hot.
Old 10-04-2022, 12:35 AM
  #32  
Super Member

 
as.thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 654
Received 202 Likes on 166 Posts
2016 S550C4, 2005 SL500
Originally Posted by KeithS
Basically took a smooth wet/damp sponge, wet the area that has the bubble, let it sit there for a minute, blotted it dry with a towel, than took a hair dryer to it on high heat going back and forth around the area. Also smoothed it out with my hand and roller while it was hot.
Many thanks!!! I will try that. Did the fix last or did the bubbles ever return?
Old 10-04-2022, 07:49 AM
  #33  
Member
 
KeithS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 94
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
2015 SL550
Yes. Depending on your heat/humidity situation, they can come back every now and again.
Old 10-04-2022, 11:19 AM
  #34  
Super Member
 
ThatsMyDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In the minds of others rent free.
Posts: 948
Received 196 Likes on 128 Posts
SL 400
Well that sucks. I am in Maryland and I was just saying to myself last month that I am going to start using my trucks window sun reflector in the Sl window.(its fits if folded in some) I use it at home when my SL is parked and I am driving my SUV, but I never use it while out and about in the SL. Just never thought about it. Not worried for the rest of this year since Fall has started, but next year it is in my window whenever I am at work and the Sl is parked for 13 hours.

Good luck on the fix....

Originally Posted by crobb65
All of a sudden I have a bubble in the leather dash in front of the instrument cluster. Car is always garaged but this is Florida. I'm assuming this is heat related but am hesitant to take this one to the dealership. Anyone else had this issue?
If so, what was the fix and the cost?
Old 07-26-2023, 07:05 PM
  #35  
Newbie
 
Joe Schmoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
gt-c
Originally Posted by DCF
My SL63 has bubbles in the Designo Leather Dash Pad and I was thinking I would have to take the dash pad out and replace it. I was skeptical of the 'steam process' but though I would give it a try. To my surprise, it worked and was relatively easy to do. I hope it lasts. Thanks very much to KiethS for sharing the process. Below are before and after pictures (the bubble on the right by the windshield was removed by the same process after I took the after picture).

How are your repairs holding up DCF and Steve? I wonder if all MB dash glues can be reenergized with heat?
The following users liked this post:
Streamliner (07-26-2023)
Old 07-26-2023, 07:08 PM
  #36  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Streamliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
Posts: 7,263
Received 3,570 Likes on 2,040 Posts
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe
How are your repairs holding up DCF and Steve? I wonder if all MB dash glues can be reenergized with heat?
EXCELLENT! Nice job. Nobody wants to pull a dash pad. Congratulations!
Old 08-07-2023, 04:13 PM
  #37  
Newbie
 
Joe Schmoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
gt-c
Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe
How are your repairs holding up DCF and Steve? I wonder if all MB dash glues can be reenergized with heat?
Anyone know?
Old 08-08-2023, 02:53 AM
  #38  
Junior Member
 
paulmr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2013 Mercedes Benz SL 65 AMG
Hi there

Did it do the trick?

Thanks Paul
Old 08-08-2023, 12:18 PM
  #39  
Member
 
Bitbytr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 124
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
'13 SL550 Mars Red, Designo White interior, B and O sound
Originally Posted by as.thompson
Could you describe the "Steam Process" that you used. My S550 has developed some similar bubbles that I would like to correct. Many thanks!
Sadly, my Designo dash is irreparable after it was removed and fixed two years ago (stretched and now tears appearing). Anyone actually know the cost to replace or, the part numbers or how to find them? Thanks... :-(
Old 08-08-2023, 01:32 PM
  #40  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rmorin49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 1,376
Received 422 Likes on 312 Posts
2015 SL400; 2019 X5M40i
A MB dealer can help you but I would try to find a reputable interior shop and see if they can help you. Good luck. Leather dashes can be a real PIA. I've had issues with several BMWs and now avoid them unless you never park outdoors.
The following users liked this post:
Bitbytr (08-10-2023)
Old 05-20-2024, 10:33 AM
  #41  
Member
 
jmattioni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia area
Posts: 221
Received 59 Likes on 48 Posts
2014 SL65 AMG, 2018 S560
FWIW I was able to do a reasonably decent repair on my SL65. It had bubbles in front of the instrument cluster and also on passenger side near the speaker grill. It's definitely worth trying the heat gun and/or steam first, but this will likely work only on small bubbles. Beyond that you have to pull the loose portion of the leather and re-glue it with a neoprene-based contact cement.

I had to glue since the bubbles were fairly large. In my case the bubbles were near an edge, so I lifted the forward edge (at the windshield) from the frame and carefully pulled the leather back at the bubble. Since the leather is loose it should pull up fairly easily. Pull it back until you feel resistance where the leather is still tightly bound. You want to lift all the loose leather. Be careful not to crease the leather at the back edge because that's hard to get out afterwards. For the bubbles near the speaker grill, remove the speaker grill first so you can get to the edges under the grill. This whole process would have been way easier if the windshield was out, but I didn't want to get into that (even though my windshield is cracked and needs to be replaced).

Let me stress that this is a difficult job, mainly because of the windshield. I had to put a large mirror on the hood of the car so I could see under the leather as I glued it. You have to be very careful with the glue, so it doesn't get on the surface of the leather.

The results turned out fairly well though not perfect and it continues to hold after a year. Some photos attached.

Driver side bubbles

Driver side after repair. The cluster hood also had a bubble at the front and that was repaired also. The leather seems to have shrunk on the hood, so I wasn't able to stretch it all the way forward to the edge of the hood. But it's not very noticeable.

Driver side after repair

Passenger side bubbles

Passenger side after repair

Passenger side after repair. Not perfect but way better.

There's foam under the leather.

Pulled back and ready for glue.

Here's the glue I used. It's rated to 150 degF. They have a version that specifically mentions leather, but it has a lower temp rating. This is contact cement. You coat both sides, let it set up a few minutes then roll the leather back in place while pulling gently on the edge to keep it taut. There's no re-positioning with this stuff, you'd have to start over.
The following 3 users liked this post by jmattioni:
crconsulting (05-20-2024), hornethandler (05-20-2024), Streamliner (05-20-2024)
Old 05-20-2024, 10:42 AM
  #42  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Streamliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
Posts: 7,263
Received 3,570 Likes on 2,040 Posts
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Looks like a great job! Congratulations!
Old 05-20-2024, 11:15 AM
  #43  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rmorin49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 1,376
Received 422 Likes on 312 Posts
2015 SL400; 2019 X5M40i
Nice work. These leather dashes can be a real pain. Ask me how I know having owned a couple BMWs with leather dashes. I use a windshield screen if I have to park outdoors especially in hot weather. I do think this helps prevent or at lease delay the lifting of the leather.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: SL/R231: dash bubble



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:49 PM.