SL/R231: You Can Kiss Your Need For Speed Good Bye....
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That speed limiting by external forces will only be the beginning of a decline in my freedoms. Next will be control over where one can drive, and what days and what hours etc. Also if driving somewhere is not deemed necessary by someone else the vehicle can be disabled. 1984 scenario. Someone else is already determining that I will not be driving a ICE in the future.
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That speed limiting by external forces will only be the beginning of a decline in my freedoms. Next will be control over where one can drive, and what days and what hours etc. Also if driving somewhere is not deemed necessary by someone else the vehicle can be disabled. 1984 scenario. Someone else is already determining that I will not be driving a ICE in the future.
You definitely have read too many sci-fi novels
None of this will occur in the foreseeable future (unless you live in China where cameras with face recognition already automatically send tickets to the drivers). Same with ICE engines; hundreds of millions of cars will not just go away. What you cannot control is when companies decide not to bother with ICE engines or even with cars instead of trucks. Ooops. I guess that already happened - only by American companies no less
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That speed limiting by external forces will only be the beginning of a decline in my freedoms. Next will be control over where one can drive, and what days and what hours etc. Also if driving somewhere is not deemed necessary by someone else the vehicle can be disabled. 1984 scenario. Someone else is already determining that I will not be driving a ICE in the future.
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Computer hackers from half way around the planet have in the past entered the systems of some of the largest corporations on the globe and have shut down vital resources and stolen information. Does anyone think they will not eventually hack car control systems and control them also? I just believe all this new technology for the sake of technology has gone too far.
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Computer hackers from half way around the planet have in the past entered the systems of some of the largest corporations on the globe and have shut down vital resources and stolen information. Does anyone think they will not eventually hack car control systems and control them also? I just believe all this new technology for the sake of technology has gone too far.
Strangely enough, the US has been the most invasive when it comes to lack of privacy and people seem to have zero issues with it. In-car blackboxes, however primitive, have been a staple in US cars for decades (unlike Europe) and people seem to be happy to plug a ODB2 plug from the insurance companies to save a few bucks of their policies. They don't recognize that these devices profile driver behaviors (speed, acceleration, steering, braking behaviors) and travel habits (locations, distance, location-types, time of day/night) and this becomes part of an overall risk profile that carries into other types of insurances.
I bet you rather than some evil force taking over your car, the same people will be happy to have the insurance limit the speed of the car for another 10% off
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Zero issues? This is 100% incorrect. I think plenty of people in the US have serious issues with lack of privacy but there isn't anything we can really do about it unless we rid ourselves of all tech, which would be nearly impossible. I know Europe has imposed stricter laws regulating Google and the likes, but not sure how much more protective it is there.
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That speed limiting by external forces will only be the beginning of a decline in my freedoms. Next will be control over where one can drive, and what days and what hours etc. Also if driving somewhere is not deemed necessary by someone else the vehicle can be disabled. 1984 scenario. Someone else is already determining that I will not be driving a ICE in the future.
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Zero issues? This is 100% incorrect. I think plenty of people in the US have serious issues with lack of privacy but there isn't anything we can really do about it unless we rid ourselves of all tech, which would be nearly impossible. I know Europe has imposed stricter laws regulating Google and the likes, but not sure how much more protective it is there.
Sometimes it is easy to speak in absolutes like zero or 100% but either will be incorrect.That said, there are many in the US that hold their privacy in the high regards and are distrustful, yet they jump on Alexa, Google Voice or the aforementioned OBD2 devices and become nothing but a data source. This is a much bigger issue than some hacker trying to take over a car...
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It will become a issue eventually when a 16 year old shuts down a few thousand cars on a city freeway at rush hour. 😊
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