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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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Hard Gear Shift Anyone?

I just bought a 2013 SL550 with less than 55K miles. I live in Southern California, and the morning temperature is around high 30s to low 40s. That being said, when I first drive the car every morning or after sitting for a while, I feel the gear shifting, mainly when it gears down. There is no bad noise or anything, just hard shifts. After driving for a few minutes, the gear shifts smoothly up and down. It seems like the tranny fluid needs time to warm up and circulate throughout the transmission. Thinking maybe it needs a transmission fluid change, I took the car to a shop and had it serviced, but it's still the same. Is anyone else noticing this on their car? I don't mind it, but I'm just concerned that it's hurting the transmission every morning.
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eguru888
I just bought a 2013 SL550 with less than 55K miles. I live in Southern California, and the morning temperature is around high 30s to low 40s. That being said, when I first drive the car every morning or after sitting for a while, I feel the gear shifting, mainly when it gears down. There is no bad noise or anything, just hard shifts. After driving for a few minutes, the gear shifts smoothly up and down. It seems like the tranny fluid needs time to warm up and circulate throughout the transmission. Thinking maybe it needs a transmission fluid change, I took the car to a shop and had it serviced, but it's still the same. Is anyone else noticing this on their car? I don't mind it, but I'm just concerned that it's hurting the transmission every morning.
Changed the transmission fluid? Consider getting them to reset the adaptation using XENTRY, also if I recalled correctly, you need (?) recommend to use XENTRY and follow the steps when doing the transmission fluid, the level and temperature when filling all matters.
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Originally Posted by eguru888
I just bought a 2013 SL550 with less than 55K miles. I live in Southern California, and the morning temperature is around high 30s to low 40s. That being said, when I first drive the car every morning or after sitting for a while, I feel the gear shifting, mainly when it gears down. There is no bad noise or anything, just hard shifts. After driving for a few minutes, the gear shifts smoothly up and down. It seems like the tranny fluid needs time to warm up and circulate throughout the transmission. Thinking maybe it needs a transmission fluid change, I took the car to a shop and had it serviced, but it's still the same. Is anyone else noticing this on their car? I don't mind it, but I'm just concerned that it's hurting the transmission every morning.
the Mercedes gear box holds the gears longer on a first cold start because it is warming itself up to operating temperature. it is pretty normal for the 7G gearbox to shift pretty junk when it is warming up. even with new fluids and valve body and all of that stuff replaced (don’t ask me how i know). end of the day don’t worry about it too much . now if your gearbox is shifting hard while it is fully warmed up then that is definitely cause for concern
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 08:31 AM
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the Mercedes gear box holds the gears longer on a first cold start because it is warming itself up to operating temperature. it is pretty normal for the 7G gearbox to shift pretty junk when it is warming up. even with new fluids and valve body and all of that stuff replaced (don’t ask me how i know). end of the day don’t worry about it too much . now if your gearbox is shifting hard while it is fully warmed up then that is definitely cause for concern
I agree. My 1-2 shift when cold is sometimes a little rough. I've started sitting still in Park until the idle drops after a cold start to make sure the tranny fluid is circulating.

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I agree. My 1-2 shift when cold is sometimes a little rough. I've started sitting still in Park for a couple minutes after a cold start to make sure the tranny fluid is circulating.
It is advised NOT to sit idle on startup for more than about 30 seconds. During that time, you will run rich and may contaminate the engine oil with excess fuel. Best to start driving after about 30 seconds or when the idle drops from initial start.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by eguru888
I took the car to a shop and had it serviced, but it's still the same.
Check your invoice and make sure they used ATF-134FE (blue) fluid.
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It is advised NOT to sit idle on startup for more than about 30 seconds. During that time, you will run rich and may contaminate the engine oil with excess fuel. Best to start driving after about 30 seconds or when the idle drops from initial start.
That's probably closer to what I do. I just wait until the idle speed decreases to under 1k rpms.

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That's probably closer to what I do. I just wait until the idle speed decrease to under 1k rpms.
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It is advised NOT to sit idle on startup for more than about 30 seconds. During that time, you will run rich and may contaminate the engine oil with excess fuel. Best to start driving after about 30 seconds or when the idle drops from initial start.
I put my car into gear right after I start it. I then let it idle in gear, on backroads for 2 minutes to let my turbochargers get up to speed. Then I allow the rpm to rise above idle only enough to allow a gear change{~1100rpm}. I keep that pace for about 10 minutes, until the engine oil is up to minimum temperature at about 160deg(F). Then I drive normally until my transmission temperature rises to minimum temperature of about 120deg(F). That takes at least 20 minutes. From then on, if I need performance, I use it.
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Sorry, but how do you know what is the transmission temperature ?
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I have a selectable display on my steering wheel dashboard display(R232)
It is the first or second option in a list of about 10 display selections.
3 temperatures are displayed.
On top is an icon of intermeshing gears, that displays transmission oil temperature.
The middle readout has an icon that looks like a genie lamp(oil spout) and it displays engine oil temperature.
The bottom readout is coolant temperature.
The R231 probably has a similar display, I just haven’t seen it.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 02:40 PM
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Ok, so yours is a R232, I doubt we, the R231 owners, have the same but I may be wrong......somebody could correct me.....
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Ok, so yours is a R232, I doubt we, the R231 owners, have the same but I may be wrong......somebody could correct me.....
I believe you are correct. The R232 is quite different and a lot less reliable. LOL
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tx170754
Sorry, but how do you know what is the transmission temperature ?
It might be only on amg models, forum member JettaRed had his non amg programmed to display it in the cluster though. I wonder if it is also available on the engine data menu in the R231.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 04:05 PM
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Image source from forum member JettaRed: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6859711424.png
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Here is how engine data menu look like https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...SMZZgBDtCJ_w&s
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Yet another alternative is a obd scanner, something like Launch CReader that reads MB modules specifically the TCU will show transmission temperatures.
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
It is advised NOT to sit idle on startup for more than about 30 seconds. During that time, you will run rich and may contaminate the engine oil with excess fuel. Best to start driving after about 30 seconds or when the idle drops from initial start.
This is good advice which remote starters don't take into account of sadly.
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Originally Posted by Bigmak42
the Mercedes gear box holds the gears longer on a first cold start because it is warming itself up to operating temperature. it is pretty normal for the 7G gearbox to shift pretty junk when it is warming up. even with new fluids and valve body and all of that stuff replaced (don’t ask me how i know). end of the day don’t worry about it too much . now if your gearbox is shifting hard while it is fully warmed up then that is definitely cause for concern
I guess that is true in a sense, I had a 7G before, it purposely slip for example or something similar to that to help warm up the fluid. not sure if slight newer models (year?)like 7G+ have the same behaviour.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
Check your invoice and make sure they used ATF-134FE (blue) fluid.
Good advice. Another important thing to keep in mind as it is low friction fluid vs regular.
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Sorry, but how do you know what is the transmission temperature ?
I had ​​​​​​@BenzNinja add it to my IC.

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Here is how engine data menu look like https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...SMZZgBDtCJ_w&s
But it's so tiny!
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
But it's so tiny!
You mean the image ?
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