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Old 07-28-2021, 01:09 PM
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There was a interesting piece on our local news last week about the huge vacuum ships in the Pacific Ocean recovering lithium rocks/nodules from the ocean floor. No one knows the impact on ocean life being sucked through the hoses or millions of tons of ocean bed mud being pumped back into the water at the surface.
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Have no fear. My 22 year old grand daughter who is on the Dean’s List in College assures me that electric cars have no carbon foot print because they use no fossil fuels. The gullibility of some of the younger folks is insane.....
And on course to get MUCH worse, with all the nonsense being spouted everywhere, Washington DC being the epicenter.
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As far as energy production the future is here now using small fusion reactors with off peak storage that can/will be funded by new public offerings coming out of:
natriumpower.com, terra power.com and others that can have plants running by or B4 2025 but, will need regulatory approval that will likely be OK'd once the dummy's in Washington realize nuclear power is the only real answer. These new reactor designs are much safer, much less waste etc etc.

PROBLEM is "the grid" and to get this done will require massive "INFRASTRUCTURE"....IMHO if an infrastructure bill is passed it should be heavy with major grid construction but, the dummies in charge of us don't have a clue it seems as all that is talked about is roads, mass transit act...I hear nothing about the "grid" and grid/infrastructure security

Longer term (but, not too far away) is FUSION that is now becoming a reality.....take a look at cfs.energy (spin off out of MIT)....all the fuel needed is one cup of H2O to provide power needs of a family for 1 yr

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I would love to see fusion work but it has been the ever out of reach holy grail for so long I doubt some little start-up is going to change all of that.
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Originally Posted by rmorin49
The environmental "cost" of EVs may prove to be greater than vehicles with clean ICEs. The environmental issues associated with the manufacture and recycling/disposal of EV batteries has yet to be determined but I assure you it's not trivial.
Don't disagree with the environmental impact of EV manufacturing. The environmental costs of fossil fuels is now well established (it's existential). Until we have sufficient sustainable energy it's a matter of picking your poison.

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Want to correct my post of 7/28 above.

In my haste to post I noted the "the future is here now" with fusion and listed a few companies but, I meant to say fission is here now in smaller plants with energy storage capacity.....These Cos are for real and offer smaller footprints, safer sodium vs water primary loops AND storage.....look at the links.

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FUSION (the holy grail) is on the horizon....see the link to new offspring of MIT (others too are really close)

All the above great BUT, my big concern is how to we handle the POWER GRID question if we move to all electric???

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