SL/R232: 3 weeks with my my new SL
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So, I totally "get" your affection for the GTC.
However, also to be fair, I looked and found the invoice for my 2016 AMG GTS Edition 1, which I bought in May of 2015.
the invoice was for $ 144 k plus tax - so just over $ 150 k in total, and that did not include Carbon Ceramic Brakes or the High End Audio. which roughly add about $ 14 k.
So, the 2022 SL 63 cost $ 207 which would make this a $ 49 k ( 31% ) increase in cost after 7 years, equating to about 4.5 % annualized - I don't think that is totally obscene.
However, also to be fair, I looked and found the invoice for my 2016 AMG GTS Edition 1, which I bought in May of 2015.
the invoice was for $ 144 k plus tax - so just over $ 150 k in total, and that did not include Carbon Ceramic Brakes or the High End Audio. which roughly add about $ 14 k.
So, the 2022 SL 63 cost $ 207 which would make this a $ 49 k ( 31% ) increase in cost after 7 years, equating to about 4.5 % annualized - I don't think that is totally obscene.
One thing worth mentioning is that the early GTS models were ridiculously stiff; something they fixed couple years later. The GTC are very compliant and nice to ride in comparison.
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SL's have always been very pricey, nothing has really changed. The 2019 AMG SL 63 (R231) was roughly, $155k, a 2003 AMG SL 55 (R230) was $118k. With inflation these numbers match up to the new SL 63.
In my opinion I'd pick the 55 and option it with the proper goodies, its already more than fast enough, plus I just love seeing the return of the 55 nomenclature.
In my opinion I'd pick the 55 and option it with the proper goodies, its already more than fast enough, plus I just love seeing the return of the 55 nomenclature.
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To be clear, there will be a new AMG GT- the SL63 is not it! The SL63 is growing on me; but not enough positives to warrant a change from my GTC, which I doubt I will ever sell.
The price is also a head-scratcher, even in this time of high inflation. It’s almost 100% more than the brand new fully loaded 2019 GTC I purchased!!!
The price is also a head-scratcher, even in this time of high inflation. It’s almost 100% more than the brand new fully loaded 2019 GTC I purchased!!!
this discussion already proves that Mercedes made a big mistake by doing this........trying to merge 3 models or at least attract 3 target groups with one car (in a convertible and a coupe version with 2 different names). Most former SL drivers don't like it, S cabrio/coupe drivers will not make the jump (certainly I will not) and AMG GT (Roadster) driver find it too heavy, etc..
Let's see how this evolves, but overhere many new SLs are available below list and stocks are growing and growing.....
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You know that the upcoming AMG GT is a SL63 Coupé on the same platform, etc? It is just Mercedes badge marketing to re-use the SL label on a very much improved AMG GT Roadster.
this discussion already proves that Mercedes made a big mistake by doing this........trying to merge 3 models or at least attract 3 target groups with one car (in a convertible and a coupe version with 2 different names). Most former SL drivers don't like it, S cabrio/coupe drivers will not make the jump (certainly I will not) and AMG GT (Roadster) driver find it too heavy, etc..
Let's see how this evolves, but overhere many new SLs are available below list and stocks are growing and growing.....
this discussion already proves that Mercedes made a big mistake by doing this........trying to merge 3 models or at least attract 3 target groups with one car (in a convertible and a coupe version with 2 different names). Most former SL drivers don't like it, S cabrio/coupe drivers will not make the jump (certainly I will not) and AMG GT (Roadster) driver find it too heavy, etc..
Let's see how this evolves, but overhere many new SLs are available below list and stocks are growing and growing.....
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More than 250 for sale now: https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/s...&sb=rel&vc=Car
Of which about 80 new, and the rest with a few thousand kilometers. SL43 starts at Euro 130K, new ones for Euro 160K, SL63 starts at Euro 180K, new ones for Euro 220K.
Of which about 80 new, and the rest with a few thousand kilometers. SL43 starts at Euro 130K, new ones for Euro 160K, SL63 starts at Euro 180K, new ones for Euro 220K.
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You know that the upcoming AMG GT is a SL63 Coupé on the same platform, etc? It is just Mercedes badge marketing to re-use the SL label on a very much improved AMG GT Roadster.
this discussion already proves that Mercedes made a big mistake by doing this........trying to merge 3 models or at least attract 3 target groups with one car (in a convertible and a coupe version with 2 different names). Most former SL drivers don't like it, S cabrio/coupe drivers will not make the jump (certainly I will not) and AMG GT (Roadster) driver find it too heavy, etc..
Let's see how this evolves, but overhere many new SLs are available below list and stocks are growing and growing.....
this discussion already proves that Mercedes made a big mistake by doing this........trying to merge 3 models or at least attract 3 target groups with one car (in a convertible and a coupe version with 2 different names). Most former SL drivers don't like it, S cabrio/coupe drivers will not make the jump (certainly I will not) and AMG GT (Roadster) driver find it too heavy, etc..
Let's see how this evolves, but overhere many new SLs are available below list and stocks are growing and growing.....
The S cabriolet was great, but it just didn't sell - so it made sense to kill it.
Most buyers of the GT and SL don't really care about the bespoke chassis of the GT (although I count myself out of that group) -- and I think AMG will make the new GT unique with very different driving characteristics than the new SL. We will see!
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It's far from "proven" that they made a mistake. Platform sharing is the norm in the industry. The Boxster and 911 share the same platform, after all.
The S cabriolet was great, but it just didn't sell - so it made sense to kill it.
Most buyers of the GT and SL don't really care about the bespoke chassis of the GT (although I count myself out of that group) -- and I think AMG will make the new GT unique with very different driving characteristics than the new SL. We will see!
The S cabriolet was great, but it just didn't sell - so it made sense to kill it.
Most buyers of the GT and SL don't really care about the bespoke chassis of the GT (although I count myself out of that group) -- and I think AMG will make the new GT unique with very different driving characteristics than the new SL. We will see!
They were simply not profitable (profitable or profitable enough to engage in any future R&D).
Also, the new AMG GT isn't going to be anything like the SL according to AMG. It's supposed to be a hardcore sports car although I have trouble seeing that with these weight gains...
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SL's have always been very pricey, nothing has really changed. The 2019 AMG SL 63 (R231) was roughly, $155k, a 2003 AMG SL 55 (R230) was $118k. With inflation these numbers match up to the new SL 63.
In my opinion I'd pick the 55 and option it with the proper goodies, its already more than fast enough, plus I just love seeing the return of the 55 nomenclature.
In my opinion I'd pick the 55 and option it with the proper goodies, its already more than fast enough, plus I just love seeing the return of the 55 nomenclature.
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It is interesting that we see so little about the SL55, technically. If it's anything like the AMG GT vs GTS, a simple tune can equalize the SL55 - SL63 (model-specific options notwithstanding). Price-wise if seems to be the better deal and barely more than what we paid in 2002 ($123k sticker).
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It is interesting that we see so little about the SL55, technically. If it's anything like the AMG GT vs GTS, a simple tune can equalize the SL55 - SL63 (model-specific options notwithstanding). Price-wise if seems to be the better deal and barely more than what we paid in 2002 ($123k sticker).
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FWIW - priced a 911 GTS 4 Cabriolet with similar options to how I would spec an SL63. 911 was about $10K less - so about the same price. Makes sense.
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So, I totally "get" your affection for the GTC.
However, also to be fair, I looked and found the invoice for my 2016 AMG GTS Edition 1, which I bought in May of 2015.
the invoice was for $ 144 k plus tax - so just over $ 150 k in total, and that did not include Carbon Ceramic Brakes or the High End Audio. which roughly add about $ 14 k.
So, the 2022 SL 63 cost $ 207 which would make this a $ 49 k ( 31% ) increase in cost after 7 years, equating to about 4.5 % annualized - I don't think that is totally obscene.
However, also to be fair, I looked and found the invoice for my 2016 AMG GTS Edition 1, which I bought in May of 2015.
the invoice was for $ 144 k plus tax - so just over $ 150 k in total, and that did not include Carbon Ceramic Brakes or the High End Audio. which roughly add about $ 14 k.
So, the 2022 SL 63 cost $ 207 which would make this a $ 49 k ( 31% ) increase in cost after 7 years, equating to about 4.5 % annualized - I don't think that is totally obscene.
In 2018 the GTC cost $147K + $11K for the cabriolet, so $158K (in the US).
The SL63 starts at $178K.
That's only 3% per year. I know there are more options available on the SL; but still base price to base price, that's reasonable.
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Another note on this, the key fob has always worked well on controlling the top other than when the controller was bad. But, I think the dashboard button approach works reliably well.
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SL owners can buy a S-Class leather airbag if desired. We ended up buying one as well for our GTC...
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AMG's are horrible with Airbag covers. Their most expensive models ($330k) still just have the cheap plastic/rubber ones although the lesser GLE/GLS 63 models have it. None of the SL's have it either.
SL owners can buy a S-Class leather airbag if desired. We ended up buying one as well for our GTC...
SL owners can buy a S-Class leather airbag if desired. We ended up buying one as well for our GTC...
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