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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 05:47 PM
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I had my sales associate check with the VPC to confirm that there was nothing further affecting my car’s release (no repair work, no software updates, no stop sale, etc). The EPA cert is done. It is really MB that is holding back on 2023 MSRP for the window sticker to release the car. I believe that there is no price increase for 2023. With the 2022s on dealer lots, my suspicion is that MB is holding back the 2023 SLs a bit longer for dealers to move the 2022s with the recent Conquest program and the special finance rates and lease rates for the 2022 SLs.

When I got one of the first Porsche Taycans in the US several years ago, my car was held for 6 weeks in Rhode Island for the EPA cert for the Monroney label. No label, no release.
The same happened to me with my panamera when it was redone in 2017/18 and the EPA wouldnt release the car for almost 2 months; Porsche gave me compensation/discount for those two months. Maybe, MB will give you something for your wait
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 06:46 PM
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The same happened to me with my panamera when it was redone in 2017/18 and the EPA wouldnt release the car for almost 2 months; Porsche gave me compensation/discount for those two months. Maybe, MB will give you something for your wait
Yeah, right. Wouldn't hold your breath for that. Mine arrived today. We'll see how MB mismanages it.
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wem
I had my sales associate check with the VPC to confirm that there was nothing further affecting my car’s release (no repair work, no software updates, no stop sale, etc). The EPA cert is done. It is really MB that is holding back on 2023 MSRP for the window sticker to release the car. I believe that there is no price increase for 2023. With the 2022s on dealer lots, my suspicion is that MB is holding back the 2023 SLs a bit longer for dealers to move the 2022s with the recent Conquest program and the special finance rates and lease rates for the 2022 SLs.

When I got one of the first Porsche Taycans in the US several years ago, my car was held for 6 weeks in Rhode Island for the EPA cert for the Monroney label. No label, no release.
It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference between waiting for an EPA certification and MB not establishing MSRP. Anyway, good luck with the car. As opposed to most around here, I'm very happy with mine, although not with my timing of the purchase. Had I waited two weeks I could have taken advantage of the Conquest cash (I had a 2022 Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet) and the favorable finance rates.
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 08:46 PM
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Maybe the ‘22’s are sitting on lots because buyers have found out that you can no longer transfer leases and don’t want to get stuck if theirs turns out to be an electrical nightmare. One of my local dealers just got a black/black SL55 in and the buyer decided not to take it after waiting several months. They also have a red/black SL55 that only has 345 miles on it. Story is the buyer ordered it and then decided he wanted an SUV after taking delivery. I wonder if the fact that it has problems with the top not working properly had anything to do with it?
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by drgek
It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference between waiting for an EPA certification and MB not establishing MSRP. Anyway, good luck with the car. As opposed to most around here, I'm very happy with mine, although not with my timing of the purchase. Had I waited two weeks I could have taken advantage of the Conquest cash (I had a 2022 Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet) and the favorable finance rates.
Curious to know the reasons why you got rid of your 911? I am starting to get bored with my C2, eventually sell it, and get an SL55 once my E Class lease is up. IMO, the 992 is the most capable 911 but missing some of that "theater" of the older 911s that I think I would get with the M177 V8.
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 05:46 PM
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Curious to know the reasons why you got rid of your 911? I am starting to get bored with my C2, eventually sell it, and get an SL55 once my E Class lease is up. IMO, the 992 is the most capable 911 but missing some of that "theater" of the older 911s that I think I would get with the M177 V8.
When it comes to cars I have the attention span of a gnat. In the space of 29 years my “toys” have included 8 Ferraris, 7 911s, a couple of Maseratis, 3 Aston’s, an Audi R8, Jaguar F-Type, and a Lamborghini Diablo. A flare of a systemic inflammatory disease made getting in and out of the 911 quite painful, so I sold it (thinking I was though with sports cars) against the advice of a friend who runs a Ferrari service department. The car had developed some rattles and a battery issue. He told me I’d buy a new car in 6 months.

He was wrong. It was 6 days. This stupidity cost me 10K in sales tax credit on a trade in. As an aside, this forum seems to be heavily populated by those who have very strong negative opinions about the new SL. It brought me back to owning a Mercedes, something I hadn’t done in 30 years. I would never have considered the old SL but I really like the R232. While not as sharp edged as a 911, it’s more suited to my usage patterns.
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by drgek
As an aside, this forum seems to be heavily populated by those who have very strong negative opinions about the new SL. It brought me back to owning a Mercedes, something I hadn’t done in 30 years. I would never have considered the old SL but I really like the R232. While not as sharp edged as a 911, it’s more suited to my usage patterns.
Same with me. The last MB I owned was in 2005. I would not have considered the old SL. As far as I'm concerned, if my new car has issues it has a warranty. If the issues aren't resolved, I will lemon law the car (I did that very successfully many years ago with a Jag I owned). Despite all the issues mentioned on the forum, I am excited to own my new SL until the time that I get the itch again for another toy.
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 02:52 PM
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I just heard from a senior mb rep that the 2023 is delayed to sale out the 2022. Mine was produced end of Jan and has not shipped.

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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAM
I just heard from a senior mb rep that the 2023 is delayed to sale out the 2022. Mine was produced end of Jan and has not shipped.
They are plenty already at the port waiting for final homolagation at which point the monroney label will be printed. I suspect they will be released by the end of the month.
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 11:51 AM
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My sales associate sent a text this morning. Still no update on the date when MB will release my 2023 SL for delivery. It better arrive soon. With the downtime I’m spending more money on my garage. I’m installing a car lift, redoing the doors, new openers, new cabinets and storage racks.
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wem
My sales associate sent a text this morning. Still no update on the date when MB will release my 2023 SL for delivery. It better arrive soon. With the downtime I’m spending more money on my garage. I’m installing a car lift, redoing the doors, new openers, new cabinets and storage racks.
😂 so am I. Cleaning, repainting, new door openers, and getting new floor. I think it will be 1 to 3 months before they release which is very unfortunate for us that have ordered.
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mkraft3003
They are plenty already at the port waiting for final homolagation at which point the monroney label will be printed. I suspect they will be released by the end of the month.
Just because they are at the port doesn’t mean they will be release any time soon.
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Originally Posted by BLAM
Just because they are at the port doesn’t mean they will be release any time soon.
Nor does it mean that they are intentionally delaying the release. They are in business to make money and when they have customer (2023) cars already sold they wouldn’t delay selling those to sell off old 2022 models. Mercedes, and other brands, routinely have new models released while they have plenty of old stock. The people I’ve spoken to have said they should be released by the end of the month if not a little past that. Guess time will tell.
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 05:42 PM
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Just because they are at the port doesn’t mean they will be release any time soon.
My sales guy says cars will be released end of March to first week of April. I am not holding my breath. I understand inventory management objectives while 22s are on the lots but do not understand letting a back order sit in port. I don’t think that customer will bite on a one sitting in the lot while his order is sitting in a port. They just just don’t think they want to bother managing the back orders because they don’t care.
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I guess there is an upside to everything. The lease on one of my other cars ends on May 15th, so if my new SL isn't delivered before April 15th, I'm not making double car payments.
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Originally Posted by wem
My sales associate sent a text this morning. Still no update on the date when MB will release my 2023 SL for delivery. It better arrive soon. With the downtime I’m spending more money on my garage. I’m installing a car lift, redoing the doors, new openers, new cabinets and storage racks.
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😂 so am I. Cleaning, repainting, new door openers, and getting new floor. I think it will be 1 to 3 months before they release which is very unfortunate for us that have ordered.

Curious what brand of cabinets you’re both going with? I’m in the midst of redoing my garage as well and can’t seem to find a decent quality 18” deep metal cabinet in White that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Quote for custom Baldhead cabinets came in at $60k with floor and slatwall. Cabinets alone were north if $50k
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I am using a company called Garage Living
https://go.garageliving.com/atlanta?...SAAEgLj6fD_BwE

I'm still in the process of deciding on what I will do now vs later. As you discovered the costs can quickly go up. The flooring was quoted at $4200. Two of the GL Signature cabinets (28" wide) were $3600. Three pieces of slat wall with some hooks and hangers was $1200.

At present, I will have an 8000 lb extra height car lift installed (capable of fitting a SUV underneath - but more often the SL will be underneath). The rails on both doors of my 3 car garage will be raised to accommodate the new lift, and I will have the option to install another lift in the future in the other double bay. I will have two new Liftmaster wall mounted openers installed, and some heavy duty storage racks installed. As far as cabinets, I am looking at some lower cost options. I need some tool cabinets to organize and store my tools that I currently have in a number of different places. I will probably purchase and install the slat wall myself. I am also looking to upgrade the air conditioning unit I installed in the garage last year.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 01:21 AM
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I had a 4 car garage but walled in 1 of the bay to covert into a home gym. My 3 car garage has wall to wall cabinets. Cabinets are all from Home Depot which I’ve sprayed it dark gray. They look very nice but was very inexpensive. The epoxy floor 1st quote was $3480 and I was able to find another reputable contractor for $2600. The floor is scheduled for the 17th of April. I will take and share pictures of the cabinets tomorrow and post them.
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 10:06 PM
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Today marks 4 weeks since my 2023 SL55 arrived at the VPC in Brunswick, Georgia. Still no idea when it will be released by MB.
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 10:13 PM
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Today marks 4 weeks since my 2023 SL55 arrived at the VPC in Brunswick, Georgia. Still no idea when it will be released by MB.
Two weeks for me. Dealer claims not to know any reason for delay. Crazy.
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So, we are currently in South Florida where SL's are very popular.

I decided to call a major MB dealer and asked about the 2023 SL's. The sales person said that currently they are still receiving 2022's but they are expecting 2023's sometime in the " near future". However, he already said that when the 2023 cars arrive they once again will be sold with a substantial surcharge above MSRP.
They were selling 2022 at MSRP and would make the special MB incentive available to customers.
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 11:45 PM
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My production date was January 27. I’m pretty sure it won’t ship until they release the 2023s that are sitting at Brunswick. This is an extremely volatile time for the car industry; hope MB doesn’t screw this up and loose more costumers.
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My production date was January 27. I’m pretty sure it won’t ship until they release the 2023s that are sitting at Brunswick. This is an extremely volatile time for the car industry; hope MB doesn’t screw this up and loose more costumers.
Just curious, have you had any news on the delivery of your MT23 SL
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Mine is still being held at MB VPC Brunswick, Georgia. 6 weeks since it was off loaded from the boat.
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This really is quite unbelievable, and must be directly related to the mountain of unsold 2022's

I just took a quick look at Autotrader. There are 400+ new SL63 and 150+ new SL55 for sale nationwide.

This is really quite a lot given the fact that you really can't find any high end cars of other premium brands. Coming to think of it, I wonder if they count as "sales" cars delivered to dealers, if that is the case the would include many of the cars languishing at the dealers in the moment.
Try finding a Porsche Cabriolet - you will wait years and pay a premium. Something really went wrong somewhere and now they are sitting on this pile of cars.

I took a quick look also at Mercedes Benz published USA sales charts. They sold 2021 SL's in the 3rd and 4th quarter. I don't know how this compares to previous years as they only publish comparisons to 2021 when they really did not sell SL's anymore.

I think they really got the deliveries all assed up - if they had started delivery in the second quarter - they height of convertible season, none of this would have happened. Somebody really should get fired.

Now what to do, folks who buy this kind of vehicle really don't want to buy a new 1 year old car and whatever little "special discount" you can squeeze out of them really does not compensate for getting a one year old car.

This is all quite a dilemma and folks like you with brand new 2023'2 sitting at the centers are bearing the brunt.

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