SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Breaking news....new SL WITH SLR NOSE COMING
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Needs updating...
Hi,
I agree the design of the present SL is lovely however I do think the insides need to be updated. Nowadays Mercedes - especially at the SL price range are competing against more and more cars and so they need to keep improving. I have read about some of the electronic things that will be available for the new S e.g. infra red night vision, and I look forward to have a new SL in 3-4 years with lots of new toys. As for the outside...i am sure it can be improved a little - although the new SLK/SLR nose...i am still not sure...
I agree the design of the present SL is lovely however I do think the insides need to be updated. Nowadays Mercedes - especially at the SL price range are competing against more and more cars and so they need to keep improving. I have read about some of the electronic things that will be available for the new S e.g. infra red night vision, and I look forward to have a new SL in 3-4 years with lots of new toys. As for the outside...i am sure it can be improved a little - although the new SLK/SLR nose...i am still not sure...
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Originally Posted by C43AMG
Just as I figured you would...you failed at being called out.Your "opinion" is one thing , facts are another.Sit on the sidelines please and comment only on facts you are qualified to speak about.
Please move on, there is nothing to see here.
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The SL is essentially unchanged since it was first introduced in 2001 (MY 2002), so 2007 would be a sensible time to sharpen the design, move to the new engines and a few other minor changes to carry it through to the all new SL. The new S-Class, love it or hate it (hate it personally), hints at some of the stuff we'll find in the next SL.
The whole nose thing is meant to ape Mercedes-Benz involvement in Formula 1 which, as we know, has been pretty lack-lustre so why advertise your failures?
The SLR is also proof positive that you cannot design a super-car by committee, it needs flair and single-mindedness which is what the Enzo, Zonda and Carrera GT are all about. McLaren could have done it - as they did with the F1 - but Mercedes could not bear the compromises required to make the car special. Result? Disappointing sales and it's difficult to imagine Mercedes selling anywhere near the 3500 (7 years, 500/year) they planned. Even Porsche have seen fit to lower the Carrera GT production numbers to 1250 to make sure they can sell every one they make before the line shuts down next year and most people would say the Carrera GT is a more capable car than the SLR.
The whole nose thing is meant to ape Mercedes-Benz involvement in Formula 1 which, as we know, has been pretty lack-lustre so why advertise your failures?
The SLR is also proof positive that you cannot design a super-car by committee, it needs flair and single-mindedness which is what the Enzo, Zonda and Carrera GT are all about. McLaren could have done it - as they did with the F1 - but Mercedes could not bear the compromises required to make the car special. Result? Disappointing sales and it's difficult to imagine Mercedes selling anywhere near the 3500 (7 years, 500/year) they planned. Even Porsche have seen fit to lower the Carrera GT production numbers to 1250 to make sure they can sell every one they make before the line shuts down next year and most people would say the Carrera GT is a more capable car than the SLR.
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Originally Posted by sprins
Take my word for it: The new C-Class will be more likely to have the SLR style nose than any 'new' SL. Perhaps something to retrofit on your C43?
Please move on, there is nothing to see here.
Please move on, there is nothing to see here.
Its ok C43 let Sprins just babble on with his opinion.
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Originally Posted by 55fanatic
wow well that is as bout as worthless a statement as I have heard here on MBworld...
Its ok C43 let Sprins just babble on with his opinion.
Its ok C43 let Sprins just babble on with his opinion.
This facelift will come after some 5 years, and after that the car will last another 5 years (total SL lifetime will be around 10 years, not much less, maybe more). After having seen the direction of design (ML, S, CL spyshots) it will be highly unlikely we will see an SLR nose anywhere, except in C43s imagination.
So yes, this is my opinion. But I base it on more than some unconfirmed statement on a 'quality' site like Autospies.
Besides all this babbling, one glance at this thing is proof enough for me (and probably anyone with a wee bit of taste):
But then again, that *really* is just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by sprins
Well excuse me. My babbling is as much proof as that statement on Autospies. I don't know if you know anything about product development at Mercedes. The 'update' or 'facelift' that is underway for the SL will include new engines, and (as always with midlife facelifts @ Mercedes) minor cosmetic changes to exterior and/or interior that will limit to the plastic. No sheetmetal changes.
This facelift will come after some 5 years, and after that the car will last another 5 years (total SL lifetime will be around 10 years, not much less, maybe more). After having seen the direction of design (ML, S, CL spyshots) it will be highly unlikely we will see an SLR nose anywhere, except in C43s imagination.
So yes, this is my opinion. But I base it on more than some unconfirmed statement on a 'quality' site like Autospies.
Besides all this babbling, one glance at this thing is proof enough for me (and probably anyone with a wee bit of taste):
But then again, that *really* is just my opinion.
This facelift will come after some 5 years, and after that the car will last another 5 years (total SL lifetime will be around 10 years, not much less, maybe more). After having seen the direction of design (ML, S, CL spyshots) it will be highly unlikely we will see an SLR nose anywhere, except in C43s imagination.
So yes, this is my opinion. But I base it on more than some unconfirmed statement on a 'quality' site like Autospies.
Besides all this babbling, one glance at this thing is proof enough for me (and probably anyone with a wee bit of taste):
But then again, that *really* is just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=sprins]it will be highly unlikely we will see an SLR nose anywhere, except in C43s imagination.QUOTE]
So you're back-tracking on your "cold day in hell" statement. :v
So you're back-tracking on your "cold day in hell" statement. :v
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Originally Posted by sprins
Well excuse me. My babbling is as much proof as that statement on Autospies. I don't know if you know anything about product development at Mercedes. The 'update' or 'facelift' that is underway for the SL will include new engines, and (as always with midlife facelifts @ Mercedes) minor cosmetic changes to exterior and/or interior that will limit to the plastic. No sheetmetal changes.
This facelift will come after some 5 years, and after that the car will last another 5 years (total SL lifetime will be around 10 years, not much less, maybe more). After having seen the direction of design (ML, S, CL spyshots) it will be highly unlikely we will see an SLR nose anywhere, except in C43s imagination.
So yes, this is my opinion. But I base it on more than some unconfirmed statement on a 'quality' site like Autospies.
Besides all this babbling, one glance at this thing is proof enough for me (and probably anyone with a wee bit of taste):
But then again, that *really* is just my opinion.
This facelift will come after some 5 years, and after that the car will last another 5 years (total SL lifetime will be around 10 years, not much less, maybe more). After having seen the direction of design (ML, S, CL spyshots) it will be highly unlikely we will see an SLR nose anywhere, except in C43s imagination.
So yes, this is my opinion. But I base it on more than some unconfirmed statement on a 'quality' site like Autospies.
Besides all this babbling, one glance at this thing is proof enough for me (and probably anyone with a wee bit of taste):
But then again, that *really* is just my opinion.
But as C43 already stated When this question was brought up to Rob Allan, his response was that next spring we will NOT see an F1 style nose on the SL but in future(2 or 3 years) it is very probable you will see an SL with a front inspired by the current F1 nose(not the exact SLR/SLK) nose.
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the picture above is nothing more then a current SL with a SLR hood... Of course MB would certainly do more to integrate it in to the lines of the car
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Originally Posted by C43AMG
...please sit on the sidelines and speak on topics that you are qualified to talk about.
Anyway, we'll eventually see who's right, until then I stand by my statement: When hell freezes over. Say hello to Rob from me.
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Originally Posted by AMG&AMG
ok, the SL might have the SLR nose (might) but why the C class ? LOL
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another place to buy those hood. personally don't think it looks that good...
another place to buy those hood. personally don't think it looks that good...
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Originally Posted by ian55amg
Putting the SLKs hood on the Sl will hurt sales... Who wants to spend a 100k on car that looks like the cheap girls model?
[/QUOTE]iam55amg , you are the man ! nice non-fiction joke... LOL
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one has to realize they only made 4 new bodies in the past 50 years to the sl.. unlike the other models of benzes.. they seem to keep the sl body style out for longer than any other cars out there in the world.. averaging 12.5 years each body style..... so i wouldn't expect any major changes on the sl.. since it's only been out for 3 years now.. especially a new front end...
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Before seeing the picture, I would have guessed that the SLR nose would have looked better than the current one. The hood seems to take something away from the car. Maybe it's because the SLR is not as good looking as the SL although it is a completely superior vehicle with the exotic look. 
