SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Kleemann Questions
11-19-2005, 12:37 PM
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Kleemann Questions
I have the Kleemann Supercharger so I should know the answers already - but... does anyone know if the HP figures are accurate? It claims 525 HP with the ECU upgrade. Let me tell you why I ask. First I have the charger installed and the HP figures seem generous. WHen I first got the charger installed it was alot faster than the stock SL500 (obv.) but certainly didn't feel like 525 - now wait. The car wasn't even broken in yet so I gave it a chance. I was humiliated by my brothers Viper - it was sad that was the first beating - next was an ancient 911 which off the line sounded normal but the ungodly roar of turbo blow off valves still rings in my head - next was the worst of all - ready... A Dodge Neon SRT - I could not catch this guy it was ridiculous - I wanted to tie a chain around the car and use it as an anchor. I was on a mission from there - I wrote Kleemann and started asking question - like WTF is going on here? Well they had an immediate answer - seems like some of the kits were shipped with the wrong pulley - the car was only making 4lbs of boost. This really pissed me off because - the answer to the question was immediate which means they knew about it and just basically kept it a secret. Flash forward - new pulley - new car - woah - since then - I have smoked all sorts of cars - including a CL55 and an SL55 - at about 120 in both cases I passed both like they were in reverse. IS this possible - how can the 500 engine make more HP than the 55 engine when the 55 engine stock makes more HP and the blower setups are basically the same? Is it the gearing of the 7 speed tranny? I mean I'm glad of course - but I just don't get it. The only other mod to the engine is the Brabus 4 pipe - which I don't think does anything for HP. BTW the only time I was trounced since was after HOT IMPort nights A.C. when the show was over hundreds of us descended on the Garden State - it was awesome - we did over 100 the whole way - anyway a Lexus SC 400 passed me at like 140 like I was standing still - what the hell was in that thing? 
11-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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how can the 500 engine make more HP than the 55 engine when the 55 engine stock makes more HP and the blower setups are basically the same?
11-19-2005, 06:47 PM
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Not sure on the kleeman ? but the SC 400 you saw probably was actually a 300 with a turbo kit.. Check this website and see if this is who passed you. www.turbolexus.com
Last I heard he dynoed at 765hp and that was 3or 4 years ago!!
There are even more of these around now, easy supra turbo engine swap and bam you have a 11 second car.
The 400's don't have as much potential as the 300's. Don't sleep on the IS300's that are turboed, same deal Supra power on tap.
Last I heard he dynoed at 765hp and that was 3or 4 years ago!!
There are even more of these around now, easy supra turbo engine swap and bam you have a 11 second car.
The 400's don't have as much potential as the 300's. Don't sleep on the IS300's that are turboed, same deal Supra power on tap.
11-19-2005, 07:23 PM
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IS this possible - how can the 500 engine make more HP than the 55 engine when the 55 engine stock makes more HP and the blower setups are basically the same?
...........as to the loss of power you experienced before. I know I sound like a nag, but time and time again, I see this happen. YOU MUST HAVE YOUR CAR DYNOED BEFORE AND AFTER EACH ENGINE MOD. Otherwise, you have no idea what is going on. Yes, I know for certain that Kleemann is aware that some of their s/c's do not make the expected HP. In mine, the fix was the use of a smaller s/c pulley. I am not saying they are dishonest, since getting a before and after dyno will identify the problem.
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11-19-2005, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GAME OVER
A Dodge Neon SRT - I could not catch this guy it was ridiculous - I wanted to tie a chain around the car and use it as an anchor. I was on a mission from there
11-23-2005, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.............the mercedes V8K's have lower compression pistons with compression ratio of 9:1 and are running 14psi of boost. Your SL500 probably has 10:1 compression and with the Kleemann s/c it is somewhere at 8lbs of boost. So the two set ups are not exactly the same.
...........as to the loss of power you experienced before. I know I sound like a nag, but time and time again, I see this happen. YOU MUST HAVE YOUR CAR DYNOED BEFORE AND AFTER EACH ENGINE MOD. Otherwise, you have no idea what is going on. Yes, I know for certain that Kleemann is aware that some of their s/c's do not make the expected HP. In mine, the fix was the use of a smaller s/c pulley. I am not saying they are dishonest, since getting a before and after dyno will identify the problem.
Ted
...........as to the loss of power you experienced before. I know I sound like a nag, but time and time again, I see this happen. YOU MUST HAVE YOUR CAR DYNOED BEFORE AND AFTER EACH ENGINE MOD. Otherwise, you have no idea what is going on. Yes, I know for certain that Kleemann is aware that some of their s/c's do not make the expected HP. In mine, the fix was the use of a smaller s/c pulley. I am not saying they are dishonest, since getting a before and after dyno will identify the problem.
Ted
You just opened a whole new range of flood gates for me.
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