SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: SL55 ECU and Pulley Upgrade Results
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03-03-2006, 10:16 AM
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04 575, 04 Cayenne Turbo, just bught SL55
My car was donce last Friday.
Oliver told me it would take about 2 to 300 miles before the programming sets in but I can tell this much right away, the car has changed. I have spent alot of money over the years moded cars and very felt so much of a difference for the money spent. I did the ECU and the pully (the pully made a bigger difference than I thought it would), and I am very pleased.
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04 575, 04 Cayenne Turbo, just bught SL55
I have not had the car checked yet. There seems to be a jerking going from 2nd to 3rd that I need to talk to Oliver about. Oliver told me it takes a few hundred miles before everything settles in. I am going to call him today.
03-23-2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnut
I have not had the car checked yet. There seems to be a jerking going from 2nd to 3rd that I need to talk to Oliver about. Oliver told me it takes a few hundred miles before everything settles in. I am going to call him today.
sounds like this program SUCKS!! It is maybe a program designed for Europe or high octane fuel?...
Does Speed Tuning offer you a Money Back Guarantee? once I heard that evosport gives u a 2 week trial, I could hardley refuse
03-31-2006, 06:23 PM
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fast cars and faster motorcycles ..
Carnut,
so what happened regarding the jerking and the discussion with oliver.. ? we are still waiting to hear..
IngenereAMG,
specifically, what motor mods have you performed. no pulley?
OCAMG,
latest thoughts??
thanks,
JR
so what happened regarding the jerking and the discussion with oliver.. ? we are still waiting to hear..
IngenereAMG,
specifically, what motor mods have you performed. no pulley?
OCAMG,
latest thoughts??
thanks,
JR
03-31-2006, 08:36 PM
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I don't get why an ecu mod would take a few hundred miles to kick in. It seems to me that since it is a computer parameter change it should be instantaneous. Anyone know the answer to this?
04-01-2006, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JR.
Carnut,
IngenereAMG,
specifically, what motor mods have you performed. no pulley?
OCAMG,
latest thoughts??
thanks,
JR
IngenereAMG,
specifically, what motor mods have you performed. no pulley?
OCAMG,
latest thoughts??
thanks,
JR
04-01-2006, 07:10 PM
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Having a ECU upgraded will void the warranty? i have a '03 SL55 that was CPO by MB. please advice
Thanks!
Thanks!
But if your rim breaks in half due to a manufacturing defect, I think you'll be okay
The dealership has to prove that the modification resulted in the part failure.
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IngenereAMG,
besides removing the speedlimiter, did the speedtuning ecu flash make any difference to the drivability (fun) of the car..?..
besides removing the speedlimiter, did the speedtuning ecu flash make any difference to the drivability (fun) of the car..?..
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04 575, 04 Cayenne Turbo, just bught SL55
I'm afraid I have not heard back from Oliver, left him a message with my cell number. After what I read here this was not what I exppected. The bucking only occurs when I am in manual mode and pushing the car hard (which is the way I drive it unless my wife is in the car) and I am not pleased with this at all. The car is more responsive, but I'd rather have it the way it was than with the bucking I am getting now. If any of you know Oliver, please ask if to call me back. Even though all I do all day is count my trust fund money I can loose count if I have to think about this bucking to much.
04-03-2006, 10:44 AM
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Sounds like you are getting fuel shut-off as the ECU is goofy. I assume you are not getting this at High RPM? If you are, are you bouncing off the RPM rev limiter?
I tuned once and we raised the RPM rev limiter, but infact it lowered it. Once you hit the RPM rev limiter the ECU shuts the fuel off.
It could be a million things.
I tuned once and we raised the RPM rev limiter, but infact it lowered it. Once you hit the RPM rev limiter the ECU shuts the fuel off.
It could be a million things.
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04 575, 04 Cayenne Turbo, just bught SL55
Not at high revs, thought about the fuel shut off, but I would think that would happen even if I was not in manual mode.
QUOTE=gregc]Sounds like you are getting fuel shut-off as the ECU is goofy. I assume you are not getting this at High RPM? If you are, are you bouncing off the RPM rev limiter?
I tuned once and we raised the RPM rev limiter, but infact it lowered it. Once you hit the RPM rev limiter the ECU shuts the fuel off.
It could be a million things.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=gregc]Sounds like you are getting fuel shut-off as the ECU is goofy. I assume you are not getting this at High RPM? If you are, are you bouncing off the RPM rev limiter?
I tuned once and we raised the RPM rev limiter, but infact it lowered it. Once you hit the RPM rev limiter the ECU shuts the fuel off.
It could be a million things.[/QUOTE]
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Carnut, I'm sad to hear about your experience. I just wish you would have searched this forum for feedback on Speedtuningusa and Oliver.
I've posted a few times about my experience and Oliver's lack of ability to deliver any type of tune for an AMG car.
You bought a SL55 AMG...don't skimp. Oliver's tunes don't work. Go with Kleemann or Renntech.
Please search this forum and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Regards,
Darren
I've posted a few times about my experience and Oliver's lack of ability to deliver any type of tune for an AMG car.
You bought a SL55 AMG...don't skimp. Oliver's tunes don't work. Go with Kleemann or Renntech.
Please search this forum and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Regards,
Darren
09-15-2006, 02:34 PM
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I did an ECU upgrade for my CLK500 from SpeedTuning. No problems, more torque, no speed limiter. My tranny was always a little jerky, but its been getting worse. I don't know if it is because of the ECU or not, I just think the 7gtronic isn't the toughest and most solid tranny.
Ingenere, thats amazing that you were able to hit that speed. It shows that AMG has truely made an amazing performance vehicle.
Ingenere, thats amazing that you were able to hit that speed. It shows that AMG has truely made an amazing performance vehicle.
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Abstract from www.evosport.com / www.powerchipgroup.com
http://www.powerchipgroup.com/faq/fa...tion.asp?id=75
Q: Is the Powerchip effective as soon as it is installed, or does it take time to 'learn'?
A: Almost all late model (post 1996) European cars are fitted with either Bosch Motronic or Siemens electronic control units. These ECU's are the most sophisticated in the world.
These control units must conform to the government regulations for OBDII diagnostics. Part of the regulations require that the car measures the feedback from the air fuel ratio's using the oxygen sensors. The values as a result of the feedback are then stored in maps called 'long term fuel trim' and 'short term fuel trim'. These results are held in 'volatile' memory, and are lost when the software or chip is changed, or when power to the ECU is lost when the battery is drained or disconnected.
In addition to the fuel values above, the ignition is also monitored by the ECU, and the car has the ability to 'adapt' to changes in fuel quality by building a 'maximum allowable' ignition advance. Again, this data is stored in maps that are 'zeroed' back to neutral when the car is programmed with new software or the battery is disconnected.
In addition, the idle speed is also adaptive. The car stores the values to make idle speed adjustments in a map. Again, this information is lost when the software is installed.
The values that are stored in these maps take time to build, and they need to build these maps over different loads, and different RPM's. In the case of the idle maps, it requires both cold starts and hot starts to build.
Maximum power will not be achieved until the ignition and fuel maps are 'rebuilt' from driving, and this generally takes at least 5 hours of varied driving.
Cars that have significant modifications will require more time to learn, and will improve in performance after the car has fully adapted. Examples of modifications that have a significant effect on adaptation are modified air intakes and sports exhausts, especially headers and extractors.
//
George
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Abstract from www.evosport.com / www.powerchipgroup.com
http://www.powerchipgroup.com/faq/fa...tion.asp?id=75
Q: Is the Powerchip effective as soon as it is installed, or does it take time to 'learn'?
A: Almost all late model (post 1996) European cars are fitted with either Bosch Motronic or Siemens electronic control units. These ECU's are the most sophisticated in the world.
These control units must conform to the government regulations for OBDII diagnostics. Part of the regulations require that the car measures the feedback from the air fuel ratio's using the oxygen sensors. The values as a result of the feedback are then stored in maps called 'long term fuel trim' and 'short term fuel trim'. These results are held in 'volatile' memory, and are lost when the software or chip is changed, or when power to the ECU is lost when the battery is drained or disconnected.
In addition to the fuel values above, the ignition is also monitored by the ECU, and the car has the ability to 'adapt' to changes in fuel quality by building a 'maximum allowable' ignition advance. Again, this data is stored in maps that are 'zeroed' back to neutral when the car is programmed with new software or the battery is disconnected.
In addition, the idle speed is also adaptive. The car stores the values to make idle speed adjustments in a map. Again, this information is lost when the software is installed.
The values that are stored in these maps take time to build, and they need to build these maps over different loads, and different RPM's. In the case of the idle maps, it requires both cold starts and hot starts to build.
Maximum power will not be achieved until the ignition and fuel maps are 'rebuilt' from driving, and this generally takes at least 5 hours of varied driving.
Cars that have significant modifications will require more time to learn, and will improve in performance after the car has fully adapted. Examples of modifications that have a significant effect on adaptation are modified air intakes and sports exhausts, especially headers and extractors.
//
George
I have an 03 that I was going 13.2 all last week and then I got a set of mikey s and went straight in the 12s like 12.40 at 114mph and then I gotba eurocharged ECU flash and a pully just 1step smaller from stock just adds 2psi went 12.00 and 116mph on a very hot day 100 degrees so I know I can go in the 11s on a cool night I have video just ask I will show the world
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http://www.powerchipgroup.com/faq/fa...tion.asp?id=75
Q: Is the Powerchip effective as soon as it is installed, or does it take time to 'learn'?
A: Almost all late model (post 1996) European cars are fitted with either Bosch Motronic or Siemens electronic control units. These ECU's are the most sophisticated in the world.
These control units must conform to the government regulations for OBDII diagnostics. Part of the regulations require that the car measures the feedback from the air fuel ratio's using the oxygen sensors. The values as a result of the feedback are then stored in maps called 'long term fuel trim' and 'short term fuel trim'. These results are held in 'volatile' memory, and are lost when the software or chip is changed, or when power to the ECU is lost when the battery is drained or disconnected.
In addition to the fuel values above, the ignition is also monitored by the ECU, and the car has the ability to 'adapt' to changes in fuel quality by building a 'maximum allowable' ignition advance. Again, this data is stored in maps that are 'zeroed' back to neutral when the car is programmed with new software or the battery is disconnected.
In addition, the idle speed is also adaptive. The car stores the values to make idle speed adjustments in a map. Again, this information is lost when the software is installed.
The values that are stored in these maps take time to build, and they need to build these maps over different loads, and different RPM's. In the case of the idle maps, it requires both cold starts and hot starts to build.
Maximum power will not be achieved until the ignition and fuel maps are 'rebuilt' from driving, and this generally takes at least 5 hours of varied driving.
Cars that have significant modifications will require more time to learn, and will improve in performance after the car has fully adapted. Examples of modifications that have a significant effect on adaptation are modified air intakes and sports exhausts, especially headers and extractors.
//
George
I have an 03 that I was going 13.2 all last week and then I got a set of mikey s and went straight in the 12s like 12.40 at 114mph and then I gotba eurocharged ECU flash and a pully just 1step smaller from stock just adds 2psi went 12.00 and 116mph on a very hot day 100 degrees so I know I can go in the 11s on a cool night I have video just ask I will show the world
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05-19-2017, 08:02 PM
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My 2006 E55 has ONLY an 84mm pulley and tune from EC. The stock 100-160km time is 5.0 sec. My E55 now does this interval in 4.5sec. Huge difference in feel, tires break loose very easily now. Only good for a run or two before heat soak slows things down considerably. For every day use this is the best performance gain for the money.
