SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Supercharged SLK55 VS Stock SL55
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Supercharged SLK55 VS Stock SL55
I would like to compare a Kleemann/Renntech supercharged SLK55 with an SL55. The base MSRP for SL55 is ~$120,000, the base MSRP for ~SLK55 is $62,000. This leaves the difference of around ~$60,000. Now, the Kleemann S8 package + Kleemann LSD will set you back around $25,000 installed. This way, we would've spent around $85,000. Here is the comparison:
Kleemann SLK55
Price: $85,000
HP: 580hp (~500whp)
1/4 mile: 11.7 (C2 design SLK55 S8)
Transmission: 7 speed
Weight: ~3,500lbs
SL55
Price: $120,000
HP: 500hp (~430whp)
1/4 mile: 12.5 (car and driver)
Transmission: 5 speed
Weight: ~4,300lbs
On paper, it is clear that Kleemann SLK55 is far superior. Nearly 1,000lbs lighter, 80 more hp, 7 speed transmission, better weight distribution, etc. Not to mention, there are no controversial ecu recalls that may decrease performance on the SLK55. So, can someone explain to me why you think SL55 is worth 30,000$ more? The only reason I can think of is SL55 gives you warranty, while supercharged SLK55 will have its warranty voided. However, I haven't heard one single complaint against kleemann superchargers, they have been tested to over 50,000 miles in the SLK55 /w 7 speed and no problems.
P.S. I clearly understand why SL600/65 is better than SLK55, however, lets keep to "supercharged V8 in SLK body VS supercharged V8 in SL body". Remember that V12's are way more expensive...
Kleemann SLK55
Price: $85,000
HP: 580hp (~500whp)
1/4 mile: 11.7 (C2 design SLK55 S8)
Transmission: 7 speed
Weight: ~3,500lbs
SL55
Price: $120,000
HP: 500hp (~430whp)
1/4 mile: 12.5 (car and driver)
Transmission: 5 speed
Weight: ~4,300lbs
On paper, it is clear that Kleemann SLK55 is far superior. Nearly 1,000lbs lighter, 80 more hp, 7 speed transmission, better weight distribution, etc. Not to mention, there are no controversial ecu recalls that may decrease performance on the SLK55. So, can someone explain to me why you think SL55 is worth 30,000$ more? The only reason I can think of is SL55 gives you warranty, while supercharged SLK55 will have its warranty voided. However, I haven't heard one single complaint against kleemann superchargers, they have been tested to over 50,000 miles in the SLK55 /w 7 speed and no problems.
P.S. I clearly understand why SL600/65 is better than SLK55, however, lets keep to "supercharged V8 in SLK body VS supercharged V8 in SL body". Remember that V12's are way more expensive...
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Does the SLK have the same brakes, suspension, Navagation System, etc. as the SL???? I dunno.
If it does, then there is merit in upgrading...........if not, well, then.......................go fish.
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Is the only difference between the two cars in Engine/Transmission????
Does the SLK have the same brakes, suspension, Navagation System, etc. as the SL???? I dunno.
If it does, then there is merit in upgrading...........if not, well, then.......................go fish.
Dave
Does the SLK have the same brakes, suspension, Navagation System, etc. as the SL???? I dunno.
If it does, then there is merit in upgrading...........if not, well, then.......................go fish.
Dave
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That and the voided warranty on an 85k ride, no thanks
If i wanted cheap power, i'd get a Z06...
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There is a video of the supercharged SLK55 running neck to neck with a Z06 on the highway. With the Kleemann SLK55 you get a car that is as fast as a Z06 and as luxurious as the SL55 for 85k... not a bad deal I think. The warranty argument is valid, however, a lot of people void their SL55 warranty anyway by changing pullies, ecu, etc.
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I would like to compare a Kleemann/Renntech supercharged SLK55 with an SL55. The base MSRP for SL55 is ~$120,000, the base MSRP for ~SLK55 is $62,000. This leaves the difference of around ~$60,000. Now, the Kleemann S8 package + Kleemann LSD will set you back around $25,000 installed. This way, we would've spent around $85,000. Here is the comparison:
Kleemann SLK55
Price: $85,000
HP: 580hp (~500whp)
1/4 mile: 11.7 (C2 design SLK55 S8)
Transmission: 7 speed
Weight: ~3,500lbs
SL55
Price: $120,000
HP: 500hp (~430whp)
1/4 mile: 12.5 (car and driver)
Transmission: 5 speed
Weight: ~4,300lbs
On paper, it is clear that Kleemann SLK55 is far superior. Nearly 1,000lbs lighter, 80 more hp, 7 speed transmission, better weight distribution, etc. Not to mention, there are no controversial ecu recalls that may decrease performance on the SLK55. So, can someone explain to me why you think SL55 is worth 30,000$ more? The only reason I can think of is SL55 gives you warranty, while supercharged SLK55 will have its warranty voided. However, I haven't heard one single complaint against kleemann superchargers, they have been tested to over 50,000 miles in the SLK55 /w 7 speed and no problems.
P.S. I clearly understand why SL600/65 is better than SLK55, however, lets keep to "supercharged V8 in SLK body VS supercharged V8 in SL body". Remember that V12's are way more expensive...
Kleemann SLK55
Price: $85,000
HP: 580hp (~500whp)
1/4 mile: 11.7 (C2 design SLK55 S8)
Transmission: 7 speed
Weight: ~3,500lbs
SL55
Price: $120,000
HP: 500hp (~430whp)
1/4 mile: 12.5 (car and driver)
Transmission: 5 speed
Weight: ~4,300lbs
On paper, it is clear that Kleemann SLK55 is far superior. Nearly 1,000lbs lighter, 80 more hp, 7 speed transmission, better weight distribution, etc. Not to mention, there are no controversial ecu recalls that may decrease performance on the SLK55. So, can someone explain to me why you think SL55 is worth 30,000$ more? The only reason I can think of is SL55 gives you warranty, while supercharged SLK55 will have its warranty voided. However, I haven't heard one single complaint against kleemann superchargers, they have been tested to over 50,000 miles in the SLK55 /w 7 speed and no problems.
P.S. I clearly understand why SL600/65 is better than SLK55, however, lets keep to "supercharged V8 in SLK body VS supercharged V8 in SL body". Remember that V12's are way more expensive...
.........kleemann supercharged fully loaded C55 is faster, lighter and much less expensive than an S55. My point is that you can go on with this analysis for ever. SL55 is worth more because of its intrinsic value. The blue book value, trade-in value or retail or whole value for the SL55 is more. The Kleemann s/c adds no value to your car. The SLK55 with the Kleemann s/c is not worth more on the open market than a stock SLK55.
.........people might prefer and thus give more value to the SL55 because other subjective reasons. Some might prefer the more muscular look of the SL55 compared to the girlie look of the sLK55. Some might prefer the prestige of the SL55 and thus give it more value. Bottom line, buy the car you like and enjoy it. There WILL BE another car better, faster, more expensive than yours. They WILL even be other cars slower than yours that others will like much more than yours.
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the kleemann c55 beat the lambo murcielago in quarter mile drag.unbelieveable. 
a little question to you guys, if the SL has all the "muscular looks", why it appears as the top 10 gayest car in the web?
a little question to you guys, if the SL has all the "muscular looks", why it appears as the top 10 gayest car in the web?
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That is easy,
The car exherts enough Charisma to suggest a Giant Streamlined Dick Slicing Thru The Air.............that would appeal to a gay person, imo.
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Ted, you can compare the C55 with E55, but certainly not S55 since its a whole different car for a different purpose. Furthermore SLK55 is much closer to the SL55 than C55 is to E55 in terms of useability and purpose. Both are 2-seat hardtop roadsters with nearly the same interior room and comfort levels. E55 (or S55), on the other hand, is far more comfortable and offers much more back seat room that C55 (can seat 5 in E55, unlike 4 in the C55).
And as far as performance goes, even Mercedes knows how close the SLK55 is to SL55, why else would they claim 0-60 for SLK55 as 4.8 and SL55 as 4.4, when in reality, both achieve 4.3 seconds? How can you compare this to C55 VS E55 VS S55 situation? Does C55 post the same 0-60 times as E55 stock? I think not. Now imagine what SLK55 can do with a supercharger! We're talking easy sub 4sec and mid 11's all day long, while also providing all the same features as SL55. All for way less cash.
And as far as performance goes, even Mercedes knows how close the SLK55 is to SL55, why else would they claim 0-60 for SLK55 as 4.8 and SL55 as 4.4, when in reality, both achieve 4.3 seconds? How can you compare this to C55 VS E55 VS S55 situation? Does C55 post the same 0-60 times as E55 stock? I think not. Now imagine what SLK55 can do with a supercharger! We're talking easy sub 4sec and mid 11's all day long, while also providing all the same features as SL55. All for way less cash.
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There is a video of the supercharged SLK55 running neck to neck with a Z06 on the highway. With the Kleemann SLK55 you get a car that is as fast as a Z06 and as luxurious as the SL55 for 85k... not a bad deal I think. The warranty argument is valid, however, a lot of people void their SL55 warranty anyway by changing pullies, ecu, etc.
Also, ECU flashing doesn't void warranty iirc...
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P.S. And pulley/ecu does void your warranty. Mercedes could care less if you blow up your engine due to higher boost from pulley/ecu or an aftermarket kompressor, you're screwed either way. Changing ECU without pulley makes no sense, and 99% of people who flash ECU do pulley as well.
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agreed...its just not for me, too small for my taste....i'd buy an SL550 over an SLK55...thats just me...i value looks more than power in this case...if i want a beast id just get a 4door AMG sleeper 
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And your 120,00$ SL55 gets whooped by a $75,000 Z06 like its standing still (nevermind, you have an SL500, which gets whooped by just about anything). At least SLK55 can compete with Z06 and is only slightly more expensive. Not to mention that SLK55 is a hardtop roadster with an interior that is as good as an SL55 and the Z06 is just a cheap corvette with a big engine.
P.S. And pulley/ecu does void your warranty. Mercedes could care less if you blow up your engine due to higher boost from pulley/ecu or an aftermarket kompressor, you're screwed either way. Changing ECU without pulley makes no sense, and 99% of people who flash ECU do pulley as well.
P.S. And pulley/ecu does void your warranty. Mercedes could care less if you blow up your engine due to higher boost from pulley/ecu or an aftermarket kompressor, you're screwed either way. Changing ECU without pulley makes no sense, and 99% of people who flash ECU do pulley as well.
........if you want an SLK55, then get one. Don't try to justify it to others, because not everyone is as enamored with it as you are. An SLK55 with a Kleemann s/c is faster than an Gallardo, but many prefer a Gallardo and will pay more for it. Many people likewise prefer the SL55. Infact the SLK55 with a Kleemann s/c is probably as fast as an SLR..........well, you get the point.
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........if you want an SLK55, then get one. Don't try to justify it to others, because not everyone is as enamored with it as you are. An SLK55 with a Kleemann s/c is faster than an Gallardo, but many prefer a Gallardo and will pay more for it. Many people likewise prefer the SL55. Infact the SLK55 with a Kleemann s/c is probably as fast as an SLR..........well, you get the point.
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Of course not, but If I can have a faster car that offers the same exact features, the same quality, and is cheaper, I'll take it. Not to mention the fact that I like to take my cars to the drag strip once in a while...
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You don't get the same features. The Air-scarf doesn't exist on the R230. The slower roof is on the R171. The R230 is a much bigger car (at least seems like it anyways).
You're talking about two different classes here, you can compare them, but to try to justify the SLK55 whooping around the SL55 is kinda foolish because the arguement isn't worth anything.
It's like the owner of a C55 talking smack about the S55. What purpose does it have except to stroke ego's? In the end of the day, the S-Class (parallel this to the SL) is a larger car, and to some eyes more comfortable. You just have to find the car that's right for you at any given time.
You're talking about two different classes here, you can compare them, but to try to justify the SLK55 whooping around the SL55 is kinda foolish because the arguement isn't worth anything.
It's like the owner of a C55 talking smack about the S55. What purpose does it have except to stroke ego's? In the end of the day, the S-Class (parallel this to the SL) is a larger car, and to some eyes more comfortable. You just have to find the car that's right for you at any given time.
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The SL 55 AMG is the easiest car to drive fast on the street............in real-world terms/situations............that I have ever driven........much less owned.
Power is effortless.
Car's Driver input/fedbaCK is superb.
Rado works..........
140-150 is like 80 in my Supercharged Ford F-150 Pick-Up.........and that truck will run 140MPH up top.........(Procharger-10 lbs. boost) and is well tuned..........
But, a Haywagon of a Truck is not a Race-Car and my Ford is a Haywagon at 130 or more.....................the AMG is pure adrenelin on wheels.........130 is warm-up speed, IMO............
Input????????
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But that's me. If the cars seem nearly identical to you in terms of form, feature, and function then the SLK is the right choice for you. Go buy one, mod the heck out of it, and report your results back here.
