SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: BMW M6 vs SL55 AMG (Video) !
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They are not for everybody, that's for sure. The guy I raced in Sweden was an ex-E60 M5 owner too. His wife wasn't comfortable with the SMG and what she perceived to be as a lot of power. He bought an SL65 AMG and she drives it without complaint.
I enjoy the neck snapping shifts myself. I can't get enough of it, but for some--it's unacceptable. That's cool.
BTW, The Merc guy I met is very classy and friendly. We became friends even though we were competing against each other. I wish we could all enjoy our love of cars, send congrats to the victors, sympathy to the losers, and share drinks without having to resort to the typical "Yea, I smoked that POS (insert car you hate here)!"
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Thats we should to compare or with SL63
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNzuI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNzuI...eature=related
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the sl55 is slower than the m5 and the m6. i've driven extensively the sl55 and sl65 and i've owned an m5. this has been my experience from both sides of the fence.
from a dig the sl55 is even or even faster than the m5/m6 to about 60-80. once above that speed the big m cars start to pull. around town the sl55 is faster just because it takes the driver out of the equation while the peaky m5/m6 engine requires some finesse out of the hole..
speaking of higher speed pull the m5 actually is about even (maybe a smidge slower) with the sl65 at triple digit speeds... and the sl65 is noticeably faster than the sl55 at said speeds.
it is a less-known truth that at speeds 350 tq spread wide all the way to 8250 rpms and 7 gears maybe faster than 700 tq spread wide to 6000 rpms and 5 gears...
alex
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from a dig the sl55 is even or even faster than the m5/m6 to about 60-80. once above that speed the big m cars start to pull. around town the sl55 is faster just because it takes the driver out of the equation while the peaky m5/m6 engine requires some finesse out of the hole..
speaking of higher speed pull the m5 actually is about even (maybe a smidge slower) with the sl65 at triple digit speeds... and the sl65 is noticeably faster than the sl55 at said speeds.
it is a less-known truth that at speeds 350 tq spread wide all the way to 8250 rpms and 7 gears maybe faster than 700 tq spread wide to 6000 rpms and 5 gears...
alex
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Congrats for the most cogent statement in this thread.
I did not purchase my SL55 to whip everyone's ***. I bought it in order to be transported in style, comfort and speed, while knowing that I have the goods to tangle with anything on the street and - while perhaps not winning - certainly not being embarassed.
I did not purchase my SL55 to whip everyone's ***. I bought it in order to be transported in style, comfort and speed, while knowing that I have the goods to tangle with anything on the street and - while perhaps not winning - certainly not being embarassed.
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the sl55 is slower than the m5 and the m6. i've driven extensively the sl55 and sl65 and i've owned an m5. this has been my experience from both sides of the fence.
from a dig the sl55 is even or even faster than the m5/m6 to about 60-80. once above that speed the big m cars start to pull. around town the sl55 is faster just because it takes the driver out of the equation while the peaky m5/m6 engine requires some finesse out of the hole..
speaking of higher speed pull the m5 actually is about even (maybe a smidge slower) with the sl65 at triple digit speeds... and the sl65 is noticeably faster than the sl55 at said speeds.
it is a less-known truth that at speeds 350 tq spread wide all the way to 8250 rpms and 7 gears maybe faster than 700 tq spread wide to 6000 rpms and 5 gears...
alex
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from a dig the sl55 is even or even faster than the m5/m6 to about 60-80. once above that speed the big m cars start to pull. around town the sl55 is faster just because it takes the driver out of the equation while the peaky m5/m6 engine requires some finesse out of the hole..
speaking of higher speed pull the m5 actually is about even (maybe a smidge slower) with the sl65 at triple digit speeds... and the sl65 is noticeably faster than the sl55 at said speeds.
it is a less-known truth that at speeds 350 tq spread wide all the way to 8250 rpms and 7 gears maybe faster than 700 tq spread wide to 6000 rpms and 5 gears...
alex
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the sl55 is slower than the m5 and the m6. i've driven extensively the sl55 and sl65 and i've owned an m5. this has been my experience from both sides of the fence.
from a dig the sl55 is even or even faster than the m5/m6 to about 60-80. once above that speed the big m cars start to pull. around town the sl55 is faster just because it takes the driver out of the equation while the peaky m5/m6 engine requires some finesse out of the hole..
speaking of higher speed pull the m5 actually is about even (maybe a smidge slower) with the sl65 at triple digit speeds... and the sl65 is noticeably faster than the sl55 at said speeds.
it is a less-known truth that at speeds 350 tq spread wide all the way to 8250 rpms and 7 gears maybe faster than 700 tq spread wide to 6000 rpms and 5 gears...
alex
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from a dig the sl55 is even or even faster than the m5/m6 to about 60-80. once above that speed the big m cars start to pull. around town the sl55 is faster just because it takes the driver out of the equation while the peaky m5/m6 engine requires some finesse out of the hole..
speaking of higher speed pull the m5 actually is about even (maybe a smidge slower) with the sl65 at triple digit speeds... and the sl65 is noticeably faster than the sl55 at said speeds.
it is a less-known truth that at speeds 350 tq spread wide all the way to 8250 rpms and 7 gears maybe faster than 700 tq spread wide to 6000 rpms and 5 gears...
alex
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i have not driven a modded m5 as power moded m5s are few and far apart, so i dont know how it will fare. the m folks have done an excellent job to begin with so there is not much extra power to be had. supposedly dinan has some serious power upgrades for the m5/m6, but i have never driven one not to mention raced anybody to know the outcome.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1p1IkfE5mw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzf7mjG_Gv4
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Actually there is plenty of power to be had thruough modifications on this platform, and many people have performed these mods. A stock M is coming in at around 410-415 HP at the wheels. The modded ones are coming in at 460-470 at the wheels, thats a huge gain for a naturally aspirated setup and good for 3-4 mph in trap speed. Heres a very healty example of a highly modified M, the M5 of DarrenDallas makes 485rwhp and just recently raced an SL65 from a roll. I guess what I am getting at is that a stock M5 will be no where close to an SL65 from a roll as you outlined above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1p1IkfE5mw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzf7mjG_Gv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1p1IkfE5mw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzf7mjG_Gv4
21-22% loss??
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sound 8 troll
Sorry SL55 MKB you have said the wrong thing, and now they are calling you a troll or worse. You have insulted the precious AMG name . Your post was good and explains that AMG or not you can't always win. All the pansies
that think bling is more important than facts will knock your driving skills.
They all have tunnel vision, more power will always win, they never consider
power to weight, handling qualities and numerous other things that make one car quicker than another. I love my SL55, it's a great coupe and a convertible
but I know there are quicker cars, the trouble with most AMG owners is
they wouldn't admit getting beat let alone posting it, they don't want to be
called a ....TROLL.
that think bling is more important than facts will knock your driving skills.
They all have tunnel vision, more power will always win, they never consider
power to weight, handling qualities and numerous other things that make one car quicker than another. I love my SL55, it's a great coupe and a convertible
but I know there are quicker cars, the trouble with most AMG owners is
they wouldn't admit getting beat let alone posting it, they don't want to be
called a ....TROLL.
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read my post more carefully.
the seriously moded for power m5/m6s are few and far apart. you need serious hardware (headers, cams, full exhaust, etc.) to get 30-40hp more at the wheels- a ecu reflash gets you _nothing_ as opposed on the sl where it gets you a lot (how strong is your tranny?)
regarding the m5/m6 being faster. never said it. read my post carefully (again). i said that at triple digit speeds the m5/m6 will stick around.
i have driven all four cars (m5/6 and sl55/65) and i have done impromptu and organized highway pulls up to some serious speeds. i am not imagining when i am telling you that you might be surprised at what is happening at higher speeds.
also check the net. there are videos. there is a video (if i remember correctly) from the m5 board where sl65 and m5 were racing on a runway. the sl65 could not pull away at high speeds.
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the seriously moded for power m5/m6s are few and far apart. you need serious hardware (headers, cams, full exhaust, etc.) to get 30-40hp more at the wheels- a ecu reflash gets you _nothing_ as opposed on the sl where it gets you a lot (how strong is your tranny?)
regarding the m5/m6 being faster. never said it. read my post carefully (again). i said that at triple digit speeds the m5/m6 will stick around.
i have driven all four cars (m5/6 and sl55/65) and i have done impromptu and organized highway pulls up to some serious speeds. i am not imagining when i am telling you that you might be surprised at what is happening at higher speeds.
also check the net. there are videos. there is a video (if i remember correctly) from the m5 board where sl65 and m5 were racing on a runway. the sl65 could not pull away at high speeds.
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Sorry SL55 MKB you have said the wrong thing, and now they are calling you a troll or worse. You have insulted the precious AMG name . Your post was good and explains that AMG or not you can't always win. All the pansies
that think bling is more important than facts will knock your driving skills.
They all have tunnel vision, more power will always win, they never consider
power to weight, handling qualities and numerous other things that make one car quicker than another. I love my SL55, it's a great coupe and a convertible
but I know there are quicker cars, the trouble with most AMG owners is
they wouldn't admit getting beat let alone posting it, they don't want to be
called a ....TROLL.
that think bling is more important than facts will knock your driving skills.
They all have tunnel vision, more power will always win, they never consider
power to weight, handling qualities and numerous other things that make one car quicker than another. I love my SL55, it's a great coupe and a convertible
but I know there are quicker cars, the trouble with most AMG owners is
they wouldn't admit getting beat let alone posting it, they don't want to be
called a ....TROLL.
He claims an M3 beat an SL55
.....and before you go on with any AMG fanboi BS just check my signature
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sound 8 facts right
sorry don't smoke.
And get your facts right it was an M6 vs a SL55AMG.
I think the M6 would pinch it, Iv'e seen 4.2 to 60 a M6
The Sl55 is around 4.6 If the SL600 came with AMG styling you can tune
the engine very easily then you'd wop an M6.
And get your facts right it was an M6 vs a SL55AMG.
I think the M6 would pinch it, Iv'e seen 4.2 to 60 a M6
The Sl55 is around 4.6 If the SL600 came with AMG styling you can tune
the engine very easily then you'd wop an M6.
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From: Frederick, MD
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Bmw M3 Vs Sl55 Amg
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Look what i found...a race between a ///M3 with only 360 hp against my 55k engine with 500hp...I think we MB owners shouldnt dream alot..What will the new ///M3 do to my SL .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1rYrv-oXY
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This is just nuts. I feel like I am having de ja vu, and that's not my wife's name.
Again, we have the usual trolls around trying to say the AMG's sucks, the M's are so much better, M's are faster, blah, blah, blah.
To the OP, and Sound 8: Why in the hell are you guys coming on a MB forum and stating these claims? For what purpose? It would make more sense if you posted your findings and videos (which are all suspect at best) on a Bimmer board. You can boast and get it on with the Bimmer heads. Get outta here already.
Now on another point, you guys either are:
1. Trolling
2. Lying
3. Bimmer fans trying to get jollies here on MB
4. Really suck at driving
5. Idiots for spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on cars, and then come here to bash them.
Say 5 to yourself. It sounds really stupid when you say it out loud.
Guys, I would not even entertain this trash and these trolls must be stomped. Don't even argue with them, IMO.
Remember: From a distance in a argument you cannot tell the fool for the valid person. Enough said, mods/admins shut em down.
Again, we have the usual trolls around trying to say the AMG's sucks, the M's are so much better, M's are faster, blah, blah, blah.
To the OP, and Sound 8: Why in the hell are you guys coming on a MB forum and stating these claims? For what purpose? It would make more sense if you posted your findings and videos (which are all suspect at best) on a Bimmer board. You can boast and get it on with the Bimmer heads. Get outta here already.
Now on another point, you guys either are:
1. Trolling
2. Lying
3. Bimmer fans trying to get jollies here on MB
4. Really suck at driving
5. Idiots for spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on cars, and then come here to bash them.
Say 5 to yourself. It sounds really stupid when you say it out loud.
Guys, I would not even entertain this trash and these trolls must be stomped. Don't even argue with them, IMO.
Remember: From a distance in a argument you cannot tell the fool for the valid person. Enough said, mods/admins shut em down.
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sound 8 bigben 320e
You owe me an apology, read AMG not that fast.
You have a big mouth and a narrow mind, and anybody
who does not toe the AMG line is an idiot to you.
Discussion to you is trolling, grow up.
You have a big mouth and a narrow mind, and anybody
who does not toe the AMG line is an idiot to you.
Discussion to you is trolling, grow up.
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I of course read you post AMG not that fast, and you flamed pretty bad and not by myself. The point you don't get is this (and this is why you are well received by anyone here): MBWorld is a forum to talk about the cars we love, MB's. This is not a bash and trash forum of MB's, and sure you can post facts and we can have an intelligent conversation. As of yet, I have not seen this from you. All your posts are sketchy, suspect, and misleading at best.
Learn to follow a discussion, and don't add things in I did not state here.
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sound 8 pace car
I got call the other day, there was an F1 race local and the pace car
was broken, could you come with your SL55 and be the pace car.
Yes ! I said. On the way to the circuit I blew away an M6 and a M5 having a race, and just before I got there I polished of a Ferrari 430.
When I got on the circuit I was told to slow down as the F1 cars couldn't
stay with me. On the way home I left a Veyron for dead.
bigben 320e,is this what you want to hear, or can we have a sensible discussion on how fast or slow our cars are, apart from the practicle side.
And please a little less ...do you wanna be in my gang......I know let's get him banned attitude. As mature Merc owner and car fanatic, I hope
to bring something to this forum, replies not insults. I'm sorry if it sounds
like I'm bashing MB, but I'm not, however as good as the cars are the sales
and service in this country sucks. That's bashing.
was broken, could you come with your SL55 and be the pace car.
Yes ! I said. On the way to the circuit I blew away an M6 and a M5 having a race, and just before I got there I polished of a Ferrari 430.
When I got on the circuit I was told to slow down as the F1 cars couldn't
stay with me. On the way home I left a Veyron for dead.
bigben 320e,is this what you want to hear, or can we have a sensible discussion on how fast or slow our cars are, apart from the practicle side.
And please a little less ...do you wanna be in my gang......I know let's get him banned attitude. As mature Merc owner and car fanatic, I hope
to bring something to this forum, replies not insults. I'm sorry if it sounds
like I'm bashing MB, but I'm not, however as good as the cars are the sales
and service in this country sucks. That's bashing.
