SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Anyone Have Any New Info/Pics about SL Black Series?
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Anyone Have Any New Info/Pics about SL Black Series?
Anyone Have Any New Info/Pics about SL Black Series? Or the upcoming SLC? Haven't heard any good new news about them in a while. The photoshop pics of the SLC look terrible and can't possibly have any connection to what it will actually look like... and do any of us know for sure the stats/specs for the SL Black Series coming next year?
Engine? Trans? Brakes? Looks? Tire/Wheel Size?
Engine? Trans? Brakes? Looks? Tire/Wheel Size?
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Weird you would post this.
Just got this info on the net emailed to me. Doesn't seem to make sense though although these guys seem to think they have some solid info.
We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
?????an SL65 with a supercharged V8???? Doesn't make sense.
I think the current V12 will be tweaked to 670. Just my cents.
Full article here.
Just got this info on the net emailed to me. Doesn't seem to make sense though although these guys seem to think they have some solid info.
We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
?????an SL65 with a supercharged V8???? Doesn't make sense.
I think the current V12 will be tweaked to 670. Just my cents.
Full article here.
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Weird you would post this.
Just got this info on the net emailed to me. Doesn't seem to make sense though although these guys seem to think they have some solid info.
We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
?????an SL65 with a supercharged V8???? Doesn't make sense.
I think the current V12 will be tweaked to 670. Just my cents.
Full article here.
Just got this info on the net emailed to me. Doesn't seem to make sense though although these guys seem to think they have some solid info.
We've already been given a taste of what the next Mercedes SL will look like ahead of its official unveiling in Geneva this March and despite the previous spy shots, we were still in the dark about what would come after AMG worked its wizardry on Mercedes' new high-dollar coupe. CAR was able to get the exclusive details on the SL65, which is being built in cooperation with HWA, the same folks who develop vehicles for the DTM/German Touring Car Championship.
That means that prodigious power is only the tip of the iceberg. But to be specific, 670 hp and 737 lb.-ft. of torque will be squeezed from the supercharged V8, with torque being limited to 555 lb.-ft. in first and second gears to avoid all the oily bits from being strewn across the tarmac.
?????an SL65 with a supercharged V8???? Doesn't make sense.
I think the current V12 will be tweaked to 670. Just my cents.
Full article here.
Not sure how much the aging V12 TT weighs but I'm sure the new 6.2 weighs quite a bit less.
That said, I think it'll likely be the 6.2 with a blower, hence torque being limited to 555lb-ft for the 7 speed tranny...
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These leaked datapoints sound awesome....
A 4000lb coupe that has ?650hpish w/an advcd gearbox and the precise chassis for which Blk is now renowned (w/CLK63BS); AMG's brilliant exhaust notes; and AMG safety....and SL has body dimensions (length/ht/WB) almost identical to 997GT2...
Consider that 599 weighs 4000lbs; has longer WB and sits ?3-4" higher...and has Ferrari's rather primitive/laughable safety engineering....
And 997GT2 has a Luddite gearbox; turbo lag/nonlinearity issues; and an exhaust note that suggests PriusTurbo, not a sportscar....
SL Blk sounds like it will be a sales success if it retains daily-useability for yr-round commuting duty in CA; looking forward to SL Blk as my next car after another CL63 or SL63 in interim....
A 4000lb coupe that has ?650hpish w/an advcd gearbox and the precise chassis for which Blk is now renowned (w/CLK63BS); AMG's brilliant exhaust notes; and AMG safety....and SL has body dimensions (length/ht/WB) almost identical to 997GT2...
Consider that 599 weighs 4000lbs; has longer WB and sits ?3-4" higher...and has Ferrari's rather primitive/laughable safety engineering....
And 997GT2 has a Luddite gearbox; turbo lag/nonlinearity issues; and an exhaust note that suggests PriusTurbo, not a sportscar....
SL Blk sounds like it will be a sales success if it retains daily-useability for yr-round commuting duty in CA; looking forward to SL Blk as my next car after another CL63 or SL63 in interim....
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According to this article the engine is the 5.4L supercharged V8 from the SLR. I think they got their facts mixed up but who knows...
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...edes-SL-Black/
Still about 300lbs overweight.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...edes-SL-Black/
Still about 300lbs overweight.
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It would only make sense for this SL Black series to be based off of one of two possible top of the line powerplants. It can only make sense for it to be based either off of the 6.2 liter AMG V-8 or the 65's older design AMG V-12. Forced induction 6.2 liter lightweight V-8 sounds like common sense also, but its critical for us to atleast find out if that will be by a supercharger or twin-turbo's, cuz obviously that will make a big difference in terms of aftermarket tuning potential and bang for the buck. Also, what about price? It should be atleast over $200,000 dollars for sure, especially given the CLK Black Series' price point. Carbon ceramic brakes or not? What kinds of Aero tweaks? Will the suspension be changed out to include forged aluminum parts to cut weight? Light-weight race Seats? Hard-top mechanisms deleted or no? Carbon body panels for more weight savings or not? Tire/Wheel combination and widths? Titanium exhaust system? Still alot of big questions that need to be answered.
A tweaked/modified/uprated 65 V-12 would be awesome too though, especially if they can finally put in that rumored high-speed dual-clutch type trans they supposedly have been working on for several years now.
A tweaked/modified/uprated 65 V-12 would be awesome too though, especially if they can finally put in that rumored high-speed dual-clutch type trans they supposedly have been working on for several years now.
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2009 is the last year for the SLR. It is not selling well and it does not meet EU pedestrian safety standards.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ter/index.html
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ter/index.html
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According to this article the engine is the 5.4L supercharged V8 from the SLR. I think they got their facts mixed up but who knows...
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...edes-SL-Black/
Still about 300lbs overweight.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...edes-SL-Black/
Still about 300lbs overweight.
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2009 is the last year for the SLR. It is not selling well and it does not meet EU pedestrian safety standards.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ter/index.html
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ter/index.html
Which puzzles me. In the spyvids it sounds like a V8. But the 525hp would not set it apart enough from the SL63 AMG.
The plot thickens...
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I agree that there are a lot of questions to be answered. I hope it will be a track oriented car like the CLK with a removable roof of some type. I am on my dealer's list to get one, but it will have to be something special to displace my CLK BS.
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I'm guessing it's the tweaked 6.1L V12 TT engine from the standard 65 AMG's. The torque numbers are exactly the same, only difference is 66 more hp. If it's a different engine, I can't see why the exhaust note would be different in one of the youtube videos comparing with a regular model.
Onto the torque limiting in 1st and 2nd gear, I bet the reason they do it is because with the regular model, you can't get the car off the line cleanly, they limit it with this car so that you wouldn't transfer too much rubber from the wheels to the pavement. A little tweak in the ECU's boost map and a 2-stage boost controller would make this happens easily, a very smart move from AMG & HWA.
Onto the torque limiting in 1st and 2nd gear, I bet the reason they do it is because with the regular model, you can't get the car off the line cleanly, they limit it with this car so that you wouldn't transfer too much rubber from the wheels to the pavement. A little tweak in the ECU's boost map and a 2-stage boost controller would make this happens easily, a very smart move from AMG & HWA.
Last edited by 2MANYCARS; Feb 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM.
