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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Johnson IC pump upgrade, CM30 or CM90?

I have a 2005 S65 AMG. Now it’s time to get rid of the stock Bosch pump and upgrade to a Johnson pump.

I have read a lot of these pumps and there seems to be a lot of people that now uses the Johnson pump. Some people have used the CM30 and some have used the CM90.

What is best to do? Should I go with CM30 or CM90? How much extra work does it require to exchange the stock pump? Are the Johnson pumps just bolt on or do I need some extra parts to make the pump fit? I have read somewhere that the CM90 requires extra work to make it fit, but it is worth the extra job? Are there noticeable performance gains with the CM90 compared to the CM30?

FYI I have also plans on an ECU upgrade.

Thanks in advance.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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I guess you use the CM30? Do you think there are any noticeable performance gains with the CM90 compared to the CM30?
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Anyone else with experience of the CM30 or CM90?
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Anyone else with experience of the CM30 or CM90?
Suggest you try searching the W211 E55 forum for CM30 CM90. There was some discussion on this topic a while back.

If I recall correctly, consensus was the CM30 was easier to fit but views diverged as to which pump provided superior cooling. Some guys felt the CM90 flow rate was too great to allow the heat exchanger to do its job properly and the CM30 would do better. Not everyone agreed.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by jmf003
Suggest you try searching the W211 E55 forum for CM30 CM90. There was some discussion on this topic a while back.

If I recall correctly, consensus was the CM30 was easier to fit but views diverged as to which pump provided superior cooling. Some guys felt the CM90 flow rate was too great to allow the heat exchanger to do its job properly and the CM30 would do better. Not everyone agreed.

Hope that helps.
Thanks for the information!
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