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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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new sl63 vs used sl65

Hey - i'm new here, and to MB in general, and would really appreciate your expert opinions...

Not sure if i should purchase a brand new 2009 sl63, or go with a couple year-old sl65. I like the newly updated style, but continue to be drawn to the thought of owning the V12. I don't want to drop 200k on the new 65, either...

Pros? Cons?

Obviously you can't go wrong either way, but i'm having a tough time making a decision!

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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id buy a used 65, nothing like a v12?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by newmbnash
Hey - i'm new here, and to MB in general, and would really appreciate your expert opinions...

Not sure if i should purchase a brand new 2009 sl63, or go with a couple year-old sl65. I like the newly updated style, but continue to be drawn to the thought of owning the V12. I don't want to drop 200k on the new 65, either...

Pros? Cons?

Obviously you can't go wrong either way, but i'm having a tough time making a decision!

Thoughts?

Thanks!
Drive em both.

The obvious answer may not be so obvious after rolling in the cars
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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+1 to Juicee's advice...try to get a little more seat time in each.

The SL65 has huge amounts of torque--especially low in the power band--while the SL63 is slightly lighter with a higher revving V8 and a nifty dry clutch instead of a traditional torque converter in the transmission.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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Get the SL65 you then avoid the government mandated restyled frontend that ruined the design of the car. Plus the SL65 is the beast with the original good looks.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by newmbnash
Hey - i'm new here, and to MB in general, and would really appreciate your expert opinions...

Not sure if i should purchase a brand new 2009 sl63, or go with a couple year-old sl65. I like the newly updated style, but continue to be drawn to the thought of owning the V12. I don't want to drop 200k on the new 65, either...

Pros? Cons?

Obviously you can't go wrong either way, but i'm having a tough time making a decision!

Thoughts?

Thanks!
The new MCT tranny in the SL63 is a difficult choice to pass when considering a 65. Drive both-It's a hard decision.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Drive them both two great cars but different in the way they drive

SL65 is faster in drag race

SL63 is more of an athletic sports car with a great exhaust and awsome New MCT wet clutch 7 speed

I prefer the overall driving experiance of the SL63 but make no mistake the SL65 is a monster that delivers the power in a unique way.

You must drive them both its a night and day difference you will know what you like very fast

Let us know what you think, I have not driven a 2009 SL65 it might be tuned different from the 2005 to 2008 SL65

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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I got the opportunity to race my SL65 against an SL63 a few times. It was ugly, the SL63 was murdered by several bus lengths from a 60 on roll.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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60MPH and up the the Twin Turbo 65s are just monsters the TQ is insane

I think I would need full day in each car, maybe the massive TQ of the 65 would win me over the boy racer feel that I like so much in the SL55/SL63

No question if you want the faster car at higher speed the V12TT SL65 will win every time

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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ive raced a SL65 with my SL55 and too tell u the truth ..... he barely beat me.

go with a SL55 AMG and tune it with the xtra cash .buy a speedbike on the side also . thats wat i would do if i have the xtra money on the side too waste on machines.

SL63 i wasnt too happy with the new looks and driving it felt different.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by G_KATS
ive raced a SL65 with my SL55 and too tell u the truth ..... he barely beat me.
Somehow I find that hard to believe...
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by G_KATS
ive raced a SL65 with my SL55 and too tell u the truth ..... he barely beat me.

go with a SL55 AMG and tune it with the xtra cash .buy a speedbike on the side also . thats wat i would do if i have the xtra money on the side too waste on machines.

SL63 i wasnt too happy with the new looks and driving it felt different.
Everything you write is bull****.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Not bad advise G-Kats Iam still wondering if I should buy a 07 08 SL55 with 030 at a great price, the SL55 is great car with a very fun engine it kind of reminds me of 2 stroke engine in a good way compared to a refined 4 stroke

Throttle response and seat of your pants TQ is awsome in the SL55 I regret selling mine

G-Kats how long of test drive in the SL63 what did you not like compared to the SL55

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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thanks

Good thoughts - i appreciate 'em.

I test drove a 63 w/800mi and loved it. Gonna have to find a 65 to drive - haven't done so yet. No used ones on the lot at the dealership, and they mentioned over the weekend that they anticipate all of the '09s will be special order only - no stock inventory will ever be on hand...we'll see.

I assume the 65 isn't completely without handling & athleticism, however, right?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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I've been test driving the SL63 and SL55 a few times (there aren't any SL65's around), and I haven't been able to make up my mind yet- I like them both in different ways; they each have their strengths and weaknesses compared to each other in my opinion. I wish I could take what I like best about each and put it into one car.
Don't listen to dealers saying there aren't going to be any SL63's on hand. My dealer was telling me the same thing and now they have 3 (one w 030) sitting on the lot, one of which has been there a couple weeks.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Wait....there is no post in a thread comparing a new 63 to an "old" 65, by a certain member...let's just call him W$H...that compares the technology to a cell phone?!?!? This must be a sign of the apocolypse.....

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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u should consider a used 360 or 997 turbo..
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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as for the SL63 test drive ..... i actually got to mess with it for about half hour. I felt a big difference in steering , very easy to turn the car . Take off was more quicker but less powerful (not as jerky) the sound didnt suite the car @ all . I didnt like the feel of the new seats for some reason and the steeringwheel looks like BMW made it . As for the drive, it was grippy but didnt feel like an SL . ide say more Mustangish , just as light too. it just didnt feel heavy @ all. I wouldnt grab one if i had the money to waste .

My opinion ..... dont bother ! when dealer walked me over to all the SLz parked outside i couldnt tell which one was the 63 from behind . it was Parked with 03z rite up too 09z .it didnt even give me that shock feeling . it still looks the same pretty much.

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by G_KATS
ive raced a SL65 with my SL55 and too tell u the truth ..... he barely beat me.

go with a SL55 AMG and tune it with the xtra cash .buy a speedbike on the side also . thats wat i would do if i have the xtra money on the side too waste on machines.

SL63 i wasnt too happy with the new looks and driving it felt different.
Your youthful inexperience again is showing.
You obviously have never driven an SL65 either.

Hey Mods.
Time to teach this guy a lesson with his potty mouth.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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one of the consequences of heavily depreciating semi-exotic cars... you get the wannabe riff raff
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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one of the consequences of heavily depreciating semi-exotic cars... you get the wannabe riff raff
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by G_KATS
ive raced a SL65 with my SL55 and too tell u the truth ..... he barely beat me.

go with a SL55 AMG and tune it with the xtra cash .buy a speedbike on the side also . thats wat i would do if i have the xtra money on the side too waste on machines.

SL63 i wasnt too happy with the new looks and driving it felt different.
Something is very wrong with the SL65 you raced. I raced our 03 55 against our 05 65 the first day we picked up the 65. We raced multiple times from a 60 punch and everytime it was like the 55 wasn't trying to race. I drive the 55 alot, so I know it's running correctly and as fast as any other stock 55...I also think the 55 is more fun to drive and gives a better overall viseral experience. I do recommend driving both as much as can to aid in your decision but for me it's a no brainer...the SL63 030 or used SL55 030.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by newmbnash
Hey - i'm new here, and to MB in general, and would really appreciate your expert opinions...

Not sure if i should purchase a brand new 2009 sl63, or go with a couple year-old sl65. I like the newly updated style, but continue to be drawn to the thought of owning the V12. I don't want to drop 200k on the new 65, either...

Pros? Cons?

Obviously you can't go wrong either way, but i'm having a tough time making a decision!

Thoughts?

Thanks!
It just depends do you like wasting money and how much of it do you want to waste. Everyone knows these car's take a hugh hit on depreication. Now with you knowing this and if you don't care I would buy a new SL63. If it was me I would buy a CPO 65 and call it a day.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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decision time...

Alright, I think i'm sold on a 2007 sl65 CPO w/low miles...it's already taken the hit on the chunk of the short-term depreciation, but still getting the raw power of the biturbo. Perhaps the ego in me wants the 65 over the 63, also - oh well. Silver on silver with carbon fiber trim. Now i just sit and wait...and start learning more about potential upgrades and mods. Anyone have recent $$ figures for comparison before i have to negotiate price?

What would you recommend for a premium stereo experience? I don't think the standard MB sound package is going to cut it.

From experience, what are the other top additions/changes i should consider making? I'm not looking to completely pimp this out, nor will i be racing every other wannabe on the street...just subtle upgrades to round out my soon-to-be new ride.

Thanks!
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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I HAVE 2005 SL65 BLK/BLK WITH 20K ON IT IT HAD A 193000 WINDOW WHEN IT WAS NEW!!! IT IS ON E-BAY AS WE SPEAK,IT IS A CPO CAR WITH WARRENTEE UNTIL 2010 OR 100000 MILES,IT ALSO HAS RENNTECH STAGE 3 ON THE CAR,IT HAS 700HP AND 900FT OF TORQUE,THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING ON THE ROAD THAT COMPARES TO THIS CAR!!! ALSO HAS RENNTECH WHEELS AND LOWING MODULE!!!

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