SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: SL55AMG Kleeman Upgrade
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Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R 230) and CLK 55 (W 209)
Originally posted by IanPooley
this is offtopic but ok
The ultimate tuner ist weineck. Watch out for the Weineck Cobra This car kills everything!
this is offtopic but ok
The ultimate tuner ist weineck. Watch out for the Weineck Cobra
This car kills everything!
http://www.weineck-power.de/
0-200 km/h (~130 mph) in 6,5 seconds...
...and no Kompressor
Ronald
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If you want to upgrade your SL55 AMG the only safe solution is to take the K8 kit from Brabus. Ok, it only produces 550 hp but you will find all the warranty that you need and they will upgrade all the parts that need it (gearbox and all the others...). Choosing Kleeman will offer you more power but more risk to. Just ask to your local MB dealer to see who's the best between Brabus and Kleeman.
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Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R 230) and CLK 55 (W 209)
Originally posted by Paul Le Corre
If you want to upgrade your SL55 AMG the only safe solution is to take the K8 kit from Brabus. Ok, it only produces 550 hp but you will find all the warranty that you need and they will upgrade all the parts that need it (gearbox and all the others...). Choosing Kleeman will offer you more power but more risk to. Just ask to your local MB dealer to see who's the best between Brabus and Kleeman.
If you want to upgrade your SL55 AMG the only safe solution is to take the K8 kit from Brabus. Ok, it only produces 550 hp but you will find all the warranty that you need and they will upgrade all the parts that need it (gearbox and all the others...). Choosing Kleeman will offer you more power but more risk to. Just ask to your local MB dealer to see who's the best between Brabus and Kleeman.
Basically, they're all the same: Race catalytic converters and an increase of Kompressor pressure.
Ronald
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I don't only speak about the warranty of the tuner, which is obvious regarding at the price of the kit but the way MB will see your engine kit if you have a problem with your car. You can buy your Brabus parts at your local MB dealer (that's the case in france), I'm pretty sure you can't with other tuners. That's the best proof for me that MB recognize the Brabus work.
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Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R 230) and CLK 55 (W 209)
Originally posted by Paul Le Corre
I don't only speak about the warranty of the tuner, which is obvious regarding at the price of the kit but the way MB will see your engine kit if you have a problem with your car. You can buy your Brabus parts at your local MB dealer (that's the case in france), I'm pretty sure you can't with other tuners. That's the best proof for me that MB recognize the Brabus work.
I don't only speak about the warranty of the tuner, which is obvious regarding at the price of the kit but the way MB will see your engine kit if you have a problem with your car. You can buy your Brabus parts at your local MB dealer (that's the case in france), I'm pretty sure you can't with other tuners. That's the best proof for me that MB recognize the Brabus work.
Ronald
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Originally posted by Paul Le Corre
If you want to upgrade your SL55 AMG the only safe solution is to take the K8 kit from Brabus. Ok, it only produces 550 hp but you will find all the warranty that you need and they will upgrade all the parts that need it (gearbox and all the others...). Choosing Kleeman will offer you more power but more risk to. Just ask to your local MB dealer to see who's the best between Brabus and Kleeman.
If you want to upgrade your SL55 AMG the only safe solution is to take the K8 kit from Brabus. Ok, it only produces 550 hp but you will find all the warranty that you need and they will upgrade all the parts that need it (gearbox and all the others...). Choosing Kleeman will offer you more power but more risk to. Just ask to your local MB dealer to see who's the best between Brabus and Kleeman.
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Originally posted by IanPooley
Hey folks,
you can send your car to the AMG manufaktur too if you want more power.
Hey folks,
you can send your car to the AMG manufaktur too if you want more power.
This is exactly right. One consideration I have on my order is to have the car sent directly to AMG for tuning. They are very expensive (well, probably brabus-expensive), however the car will be fully warrantied and certified by AMG, for service and use by any authorized MB dealership / service center.
It may be an option, however there is, as far as I can tell, no standardization regarding upgrades, etc. It's especially hard for those of us on this side of the pond to discover things. Perhaps someone closer can help?
--Dan
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ML400cdi and SL55amg
First of all, Hi to everybody.
Probably I'don't understand well as You what is the problem.
When You talk about Kleeman, You consider the upgrade on SL basic version.
I ask to Kleemann an upgrade for my sl last october receiving this details:
"Thank you for your interest in KLEEMANN. We have a compressor kit end of
November for the SL 55 Amg. The Compressor we will be using is under
production.
We can then offer you for your SL 55 AMG 640 HP and 835 NM.
This will then be the fastet SL series ever.
We have testet it and it is definitely true!
We are also on the Essen Motorshow in November and December, where
You are very welcome on our stand.
The KLEEMANN Compressor modification will cost about 25.000 €"
If the problem is rear axel, Ronald told that AMG "grant" a upgrade on torque just up to 15%.
So if we consider that SL55 has 700 NM with a plus of 15% we reach 805 NM quite close to tha torque declare by Kleemann.
If the problem is warranty I imagine that if somebody have some problem with his tuning car, every tuner probably discharge his responsability to You and Your wrong "drive mode".
If the problem is the money, I'm agree to everybody, cause 25.000 € or $ are really too much for a car that, unfortunately, is overpassed directly by mercedes with the new model (SL65 or SL600)!!
Actually I'm looking to a soft tuning (changing some parts in engine directly from my tuner). When finish I'll send You all the details. Cost of the operations no more than 2.500 € for 50 CV certify.
Bye
Andrea
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Probably I'don't understand well as You what is the problem.
When You talk about Kleeman, You consider the upgrade on SL basic version.
I ask to Kleemann an upgrade for my sl last october receiving this details:
"Thank you for your interest in KLEEMANN. We have a compressor kit end of
November for the SL 55 Amg. The Compressor we will be using is under
production.
We can then offer you for your SL 55 AMG 640 HP and 835 NM.
This will then be the fastet SL series ever.
We have testet it and it is definitely true!
We are also on the Essen Motorshow in November and December, where
You are very welcome on our stand.
The KLEEMANN Compressor modification will cost about 25.000 €"
If the problem is rear axel, Ronald told that AMG "grant" a upgrade on torque just up to 15%.
So if we consider that SL55 has 700 NM with a plus of 15% we reach 805 NM quite close to tha torque declare by Kleemann.
If the problem is warranty I imagine that if somebody have some problem with his tuning car, every tuner probably discharge his responsability to You and Your wrong "drive mode".
If the problem is the money, I'm agree to everybody, cause 25.000 € or $ are really too much for a car that, unfortunately, is overpassed directly by mercedes with the new model (SL65 or SL600)!!
Actually I'm looking to a soft tuning (changing some parts in engine directly from my tuner). When finish I'll send You all the details. Cost of the operations no more than 2.500 € for 50 CV certify.
Bye
Andrea
engineer
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Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R 230) and CLK 55 (W 209)
Originally posted by IanPooley
Hey folks,
you can send your car to the AMG manufaktur too if you want more power.
Hey folks,
you can send your car to the AMG manufaktur too if you want more power.
Ronald
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ML400cdi and SL55amg
Hi, Ronald, this is correct, AMG only delimit your car:
"We will remove the speed limit at 250 km/h and change it to 300 km/h.
Kind regards,
Mercedes-AMG GmbH"
This for 2.150 € plus VAT (17,5%).
or change wheel:
"Front axle:
2 AMG-rims 8,5J x 19H2 ET25
Style IV, multi-piece, à EUR 1.080, € 2.160,
2 Tyres 255/35 ZR19 96 Y Extra Load
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A à EUR 380 € 760,
Rear axle:
2 AMG-rims 10J x 19H2 ET28
Style IV, multi-piece, à EUR 1.120, € 2.240,
2 Tyres 285/30 ZR19 98 Y Extra Load
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A à EUR 510, € 1.020,
4 x mounting and balancing à EUR 26,25 € 105,
Modification of the wheel arches € 260,
Extra charge for vehicles with MB code 475 € 490,
1 set lockable wheel bolts € 45,
Modification-time: approx. 1 day after agreed and appointment."
In my last post, under the signature, I wrote engineer, it's not true, sorry.
"We will remove the speed limit at 250 km/h and change it to 300 km/h.
Kind regards,
Mercedes-AMG GmbH"
This for 2.150 € plus VAT (17,5%).
or change wheel:
"Front axle:
2 AMG-rims 8,5J x 19H2 ET25
Style IV, multi-piece, à EUR 1.080, € 2.160,
2 Tyres 255/35 ZR19 96 Y Extra Load
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A à EUR 380 € 760,
Rear axle:
2 AMG-rims 10J x 19H2 ET28
Style IV, multi-piece, à EUR 1.120, € 2.240,
2 Tyres 285/30 ZR19 98 Y Extra Load
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A à EUR 510, € 1.020,
4 x mounting and balancing à EUR 26,25 € 105,
Modification of the wheel arches € 260,
Extra charge for vehicles with MB code 475 € 490,
1 set lockable wheel bolts € 45,
Modification-time: approx. 1 day after agreed and appointment."
In my last post, under the signature, I wrote engineer, it's not true, sorry.
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Your post surprise me Ronald, the brabus french export manager told me that the brabus warranty and the MB warranty work together without any problem. About the Brabus parts in MB local store, he even gave me is phone number if there is a problem.
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Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R 230) and CLK 55 (W 209)
Originally posted by Paul Le Corre
Your post surprise me Ronald, the brabus french export manager told me that the brabus warranty and the MB warranty work together without any problem. About the Brabus parts in MB local store, he even gave me is phone number if there is a problem.
Your post surprise me Ronald, the brabus french export manager told me that the brabus warranty and the MB warranty work together without any problem. About the Brabus parts in MB local store, he even gave me is phone number if there is a problem.
The only exception is the official cooperation with Smart.
Ronald
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Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R 230) and CLK 55 (W 209)
Originally posted by 2fast4u
Hi, Ronald, this is correct, AMG only delimit your car
Hi, Ronald, this is correct, AMG only delimit your car
BTW, it can only be done at AMG headquarters in Affalterbach.
Ronald
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ML400cdi and SL55amg
Hi Paul,
in Italy it's not the same.
My dealer told me that they had some problem with MB warranty on Brabus tuned car's.
Also in Italy, the "official" dealer of Brabus it's not .... good.
Some years ago, I go to this dealer and the feelings was like a "man in a supermarket".
Bye
in Italy it's not the same.
My dealer told me that they had some problem with MB warranty on Brabus tuned car's.
Also in Italy, the "official" dealer of Brabus it's not .... good.
Some years ago, I go to this dealer and the feelings was like a "man in a supermarket".
Bye
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From: Munich, Germany
Schrempps C 32 AMG
Originally posted by Ronald
AMG doesn't do any performance tuning except the AMG Specials conversion (SL 73, CL / S 63, C 55,...)
Ronald
AMG doesn't do any performance tuning except the AMG Specials conversion (SL 73, CL / S 63, C 55,...)
Ronald
thats what I´m talkin about. if u got enough cash and want a special car you just send it to AMG and they´ll do it. If I want the SL 5,5 engine and pay enough then it´s no problem
You are right when you mean that AMG stopped performance tuning like "chip-tuning" or the like.
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BRABUS has no conection with MB what so ever, I have owened BRABUS Denmark for 15 years, 1985 - 2000, I know a little about it.
Paul :
If BRABUS have warrenty in France, it's because they have a few partners which are MB dealers, the dealer " forgets " to tell DC France that the car is modified and there is never a problem.
Paul :
If BRABUS have warrenty in France, it's because they have a few partners which are MB dealers, the dealer " forgets " to tell DC France that the car is modified and there is never a problem.
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SL55AMG
Upgrade
Kleeman have postponed the upgrade for my car. I am told because AMG have 'changed' the management software and the Kleeman guys have to write new code to match the changed software. They say they have alot of 55 engines to do the work on but are not ready to do them without this change that they have to make.
Any clarification from those who know or understand these changes that have happened or will be needed would be welcome.
Any clarification from those who know or understand these changes that have happened or will be needed would be welcome.
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Lexusking, I have a friend who is thinking about a Bentley Arnage
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2003 SL55 AMG (Docking Today 2/20/03
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2003 SL55 AMG (Docking Today 2/20/03
2000 ML430
